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hockeybub89
08/28/17 12:25:31 PM
#51:


ZombiePelican posted...
Squeaky wheel gets the grease, better than just bending over and taking it like you're advocating

Implies these companies are reading your posts.

Maybe one day you'll have actual things to worry about. Also funny how you call PU a cuck while worshipping someone who lets people fuck his wife.
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Bok_Choi
08/28/17 12:27:35 PM
#52:


ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 12:31:57 PM
#53:


Hasn't TC whined about companies listening to consumers over "SJW" things or am I confusing crybabies? That would be ironic given the man he is backing here.
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Mr_Karate_II
08/28/17 12:32:09 PM
#54:


I rarely buy DLC and the only time i do is if i bought the game used. I refuse to spend $60 on the game itself then another $30 or more on DLC.
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 12:34:27 PM
#55:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
I rarely buy DLC and the only time i do is if i bought the game used. I refuse to spend $60 on the game itself then another $30 or more on DLC.

You see. That's not enough. You need to bring out the thesaurus and type big words for greed on a dying message board. Then, our corporate overlords will realize who is in control.
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 12:38:45 PM
#56:


hockeybub89 posted...
Implies these companies are reading your posts.

Considering they pay people to shill on forums for them. I wouldn't doubt it but don't find them reading my comments very plausible


hockeybub89 posted...
Maybe one day you'll have actual things to worry about. Also funny how you call PU a cuck while worshipping someone who lets people f*** his wife

I absolutely love baseless conjecture
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 12:47:52 PM
#57:


Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets

And as I've already explained that won't work because a handful of whales keep these microtransactions in games even though the community has made it clear we do not want microtransactions in our games

Looks like I was spot on about reading comprehension not being a strong point of yours
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 12:49:11 PM
#58:


ZombiePelican posted...
I absolutely love baseless conjecture

are you referring to:

You having nothing better to do
You being a Jim Sterling fan
Jim Sterling being a cuck
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Bok_Choi
08/28/17 12:50:02 PM
#59:


ZombiePelican posted...
keep these microtransactions in games

Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets


ZombiePelican posted...
even though the community has made it clear

Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets


ZombiePelican posted...
we do not want microtransactions in our games

Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets

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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 12:50:59 PM
#60:


hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
I absolutely love baseless conjecture

are you referring to:

You having nothing better to do
You being a Jim Sterling fan
Jim Sterling being a cuck

C. Final answer
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marc55
08/28/17 12:51:42 PM
#61:


hockeybub89 posted...
Hasn't TC whined about companies listening to consumers over "SJW" things or am I confusing crybabies? That would be ironic given the man he is backing here.

he whines about everything

you ll notice everytime he makes a topic hes angry or pretending to be
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 12:52:31 PM
#62:


ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets

And as I've already explained that won't work because a handful of whales keep these microtransactions in games even though the community has made it clear we do not want microtransactions in our games

Looks like I was spot on about reading comprehension not being a strong point of yours

If they are doing it despite words, then that would seem to prove they care more about wallets.

If all these games sold poorly because of microtransactions being in them, they'd probably be more inclined to reevaluate their business model.
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 12:54:31 PM
#63:


Bok_Choi posted...

We already have voted with our wallets and even though the community has made it clear that we don't want microtransactions our full priced games but publishers care more about pleasing a few whales than the majority of the community
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Bok_Choi
08/28/17 12:55:51 PM
#64:


everything you're telling me is that enough people are speaking with their wallets for companies to keep doing it
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 12:55:57 PM
#65:


hockeybub89 posted...
all these games sold poorly because of microtransactions being in them, they'd probably be more inclined to reevaluate their business model.

Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is?
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Bok_Choi
08/28/17 12:55:59 PM
#66:


Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets

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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 12:56:44 PM
#67:


Bok_Choi posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets

ZombiePelican posted...
Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is?

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Bok_Choi
08/28/17 12:56:53 PM
#68:


if it stops working or is too ineffectual they'll stop

if it continues to make them money they'll continue

your whining won't affect this at all

lmao
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:00:06 PM
#69:


ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...

We already have voted with our wallets and even though the community has made it clear that we don't want microtransactions our full priced games but publishers care more about pleasing a few whales than the majority of the community

Have we voted with our wallets? PUBG is a huge sensation, despite not even being that great of a game. Overwatch is another Blizzard hit. Rocket League is huge. GTA V continues to be one of the best selling games of all time. Shadow of War is still highly anticipated. And that is just a few of what seem like infinite examples.
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:00:36 PM
#70:


Bok_Choi posted...
if it stops working or is too ineffectual they'll stop

if it continues to make them money they'll continue

your whining won't affect this at all

lmao

Yeah just like when we were told on disc DLC , online passes, or always online DRM won't go anywhere from us whining online, right?
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:03:31 PM
#71:


hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...

We already have voted with our wallets and even though the community has made it clear that we don't want microtransactions our full priced games but publishers care more about pleasing a few whales than the majority of the community

Have we voted with our wallets? PUBG is a huge sensation, despite not even being that great of a game. Overwatch is another Blizzard hit. Rocket League is huge. GTA V continues to be one of the best selling games of all time. Shadow of War is still highly anticipated. And that is just a few of what seem like infinite examples.

ITP:People bought these games specifically because of microtransactions

You're reaching pretty hard man
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:07:46 PM
#72:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...

We already have voted with our wallets and even though the community has made it clear that we don't want microtransactions our full priced games but publishers care more about pleasing a few whales than the majority of the community

Have we voted with our wallets? PUBG is a huge sensation, despite not even being that great of a game. Overwatch is another Blizzard hit. Rocket League is huge. GTA V continues to be one of the best selling games of all time. Shadow of War is still highly anticipated. And that is just a few of what seem like infinite examples.

ITP:People bought these games specifically because of microtransactions

You're reaching pretty hard man

That isn't my point. I'm saying if it bothers us, then we need to refuse to buy the games in the first place, not just refuse to buy the microtransactions after we already gave them money. If the companies only know greed, speak to them in their language.
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MB2012
08/28/17 1:10:49 PM
#73:


If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:10:50 PM
#74:


hockeybub89 posted...
That isn't my point. I'm saying if it bothers us, then we need to refuse to buy the games in the first place, not just refuse to buy the microtransactions after we already gave them money. If the companies only know greed, speak to them in their language.

The language is quite clear, they know all too well the community hates these microtransactions but they just don't care because they're making money from idiots

Because nobody has been able to answer my question yet

ZombiePelican posted...
Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is?

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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:14:01 PM
#75:


MB2012 posted...
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game

Very rarely do you not.
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:15:43 PM
#76:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
That isn't my point. I'm saying if it bothers us, then we need to refuse to buy the games in the first place, not just refuse to buy the microtransactions after we already gave them money. If the companies only know greed, speak to them in their language.

The language is quite clear, they know all too well the community hates these microtransactions but they just don't care because they're making money from idiots

Because nobody has been able to answer my question yet

ZombiePelican posted...
Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is?

What? This is typically pretty transparent. How do simultaneously think you are "woke" while being so ignorant?

And do you honestly think a company would be content with a few microtransaction whales if they lost millions in sales?
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Bok_Choi
08/28/17 1:15:59 PM
#77:


ZombiePelican posted...
Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is?

Because initial sales only leave you so much money
these are businesses
and they are trying to generate revenue?
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:34:19 PM
#78:


hockeybub89 posted...
What? This is typically pretty transparent. How do simultaneously think you are "woke" while being so ignorant?

Irony, coming from the guy doing desperate mental gymnastics to defend the greed of publishers

hockeybub89 posted...
And do you honestly think a company would be content with a few microtransaction whales if they lost millions in sales?

Again, the majority of people who actually do buy these microtransactions are whales and outspend the rest of the community combined. What about this is so hard to understand?
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:35:45 PM
#79:


hockeybub89 posted...
MB2012 posted...
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game

Very rarely do you not.

This literally made me spit out food. That's hiw stupid this comment is
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:39:32 PM
#80:


ZombiePelican posted...
Again, the majority of people who actually do buy these microtransactions are whales and outspend the rest of the community combined. What about this is so hard to understand?


If no one buys a game, then the companies will take notice. They are greedy, so less money is worse than more money. And not even whales are going to spend money if they can't even find a match
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:40:07 PM
#81:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MB2012 posted...
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game

Very rarely do you not.

This literally made me spit out food. That's hiw stupid this comment is

I can't think of more than like a single handful.
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:42:58 PM
#82:


Also, who exactly am I shilling for? The entire gaming industry? Companies in general? That doesn't make a lot of sense. Buy what should we expect from a guy that only wants companies to listen when he agrees with what people have to say?
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:45:02 PM
#83:


Bok_Choi posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is?

Because initial sales only leave you so much money
these are businesses
and they are trying to generate revenue?

They're added post launch so people like me who actively avoid buying games with microtransactions will buy them. Now jusify them being hidden in review copies
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:49:04 PM
#84:


hockeybub89 posted...
Also, who exactly am I shilling for?

Publishers and Player Unknown

hockeybub89 posted...
Buy what should we expect from a guy that only wants companies to listen when he agrees with what people have to say?

WTF are you on? I want companies to listen to consumers not spineless shills like you
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 1:54:05 PM
#85:


hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MB2012 posted...
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game

Very rarely do you not.

This literally made me spit out food. That's hiw stupid this comment is

I can't think of more than like a single handful.

Almost every game these days is released with tons of content sawed off to sell you as preorder bonuses, DLC, or microtransactions

Like did you just start gaming 6 months ago?
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:56:14 PM
#86:


ZombiePelican posted...
WTF are you on? I want companies to listen to consumers not spineless shills like you

Oh so everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill? That is a convenient way to ignore people who disagree with you. You're even covered if you complain about companies bowing to the "SJWs".

Also, if companies are greedy pieces of shit trying to fuck us all over, them how the fuck do you plan on getting them to listen to you? Can't they just count their money and fund studies that support their business model? You can't call them beholden to money and then think you can change them with words instead of (lack of) money.
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 1:59:29 PM
#87:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MB2012 posted...
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game

Very rarely do you not.

This literally made me spit out food. That's hiw stupid this comment is

I can't think of more than like a single handful.

Almost every game these days is released with tons of content sawed off to sell you as preorder bonuses, DLC, or microtransactions

Like did you just start gaming 6 months ago?

Well over 20 years ago actually. And I love it as much as I did as a small child.
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mcpwnia
08/28/17 1:59:53 PM
#88:


You can't make fun of someone for being a "wage slave" when you've never earned a dollar in your life and spend your time collecting disability and screeching at game devs on a niche website where no one likes you
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 2:04:29 PM
#89:


hockeybub89 posted...
Oh so everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill?

I'm a consumer advocate ,so yes

If you disagree with me then that means you side with corporations and those driven purely by greed. Which both of these are literally indefensible

hockeybub89 posted...
That is a convenient way to ignore people who disagree with you. You're even covered if you complain about companies bowing to the "SJWs".

Your point is irrelevant as SJWs don't buy or play actual videogames , but that's for another topic


hockeybub89 posted...
Also, if companies are greedy pieces of s*** trying to f*** us all over, them how the f*** do you plan on getting them to listen to you

Squeaky wheel gets the grease


hockeybub89 posted...
Can't they just count their money and fund studies that support their business model?

Why would they do that when they know people like you will shill for them for free?

hockeybub89 posted...
you can change them with words instead of (lack of) money.

This model won't last forever, I'm just being a vocal consumer advocate and informing the uninformed
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Samurontai
08/28/17 2:05:23 PM
#90:


ZombiePelican posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
cosmetic micro transactions are fine

No they are not and never will be no matter how much propaganda from publishers and shills you blindly swallow


Yeah they are
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PlsGodDontBanMe
08/28/17 2:06:40 PM
#91:


ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
perpetually bitter and whiny shitposter

>mr. waaaaa nintendo something something
>calling anyone else perpetually bitter and whiny

Says the guy who constantly makes bitter and angsty spin off topics to shit on people who even so much as mildly irk him


Both of you suck but holy shit this is such an apt description of bok.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/28/17 2:07:22 PM
#92:


If you can't buy stuff to make yourself better, I don't care.
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 2:07:57 PM
#93:


hockeybub89 posted...
And I love it as much as I did as a small child.

That doesn't seem to be the case with your willingness to be a loyal corporate shill
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Samurontai
08/28/17 2:08:45 PM
#94:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
If you can't buy stuff to make yourself better, I don't care.


Most people don't

Not to mention you can just rack up a ton of in game currency (which is extremely easy to do) and get cosmetics that way
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 2:11:55 PM
#95:


mcpwnia posted...
You can't make fun of someone for being a "wage slave" when you've never earned a dollar in your life and spend your time collecting disability and screeching at game devs on a niche website where no one likes you

I actually work a 9 - 5 job like everyone else


Samurontai posted...
ZombiePelican posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
cosmetic micro transactions are fine

No they are not and never will be no matter how much propaganda from publishers and shills you blindly swallow


Yeah they are

Nah, microtransactions have no place in a game you paid up front for
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 2:12:24 PM
#96:


ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
And I love it as much as I did as a small child.

That doesn't seem to be the case with your willingness to be a loyal corporate shill

How can I be loyal to all of them? That doesn't seem like loyalty.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/28/17 2:12:25 PM
#97:


I don't get the argument as to why cosmetic in game purchases are something to fight against.

They make more money for the developers ideally to either put back into the game or into a new game, and it literally does nothing to change the core gameplay.
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hockeybub89
08/28/17 2:14:34 PM
#98:


ZombiePelican posted...
Your point is irrelevant as SJWs don't buy or play actual videogames , but that's for another topic

Jim Sterling does. He also doesn't play his wife.
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ZombiePelican
08/28/17 2:16:37 PM
#99:


Samurontai posted...
Most people don't

Not to mention you can just rack up a ton of in game currency (which is extremely easy to do) and get cosmetics that way

Except when publishers want more money and start nerfing things like ingame currency payouts or lower the odds you'll get anything a good, ala Activision and Blizzard
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marc55
08/28/17 2:20:22 PM
#100:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I don't get the argument as to why cosmetic in game purchases are something to fight against.

They make more money for the developers ideally to either put back into the game or into a new game, and it literally does nothing to change the core gameplay.

i think they are agaisnt developers making money for some reason
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