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hockeybub89 08/28/17 12:25:31 PM #51: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Squeaky wheel gets the grease, better than just bending over and taking it like you're advocating Implies these companies are reading your posts. Maybe one day you'll have actual things to worry about. Also funny how you call PU a cuck while worshipping someone who lets people fuck his wife. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 08/28/17 12:27:35 PM #52: |
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 12:31:57 PM #53: |
Hasn't TC whined about companies listening to consumers over "SJW" things or am I confusing crybabies? That would be ironic given the man he is backing here.
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Mr_Karate_II 08/28/17 12:32:09 PM #54: |
I rarely buy DLC and the only time i do is if i bought the game used. I refuse to spend $60 on the game itself then another $30 or more on DLC.
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 12:34:27 PM #55: |
Mr_Karate_II posted...
I rarely buy DLC and the only time i do is if i bought the game used. I refuse to spend $60 on the game itself then another $30 or more on DLC. You see. That's not enough. You need to bring out the thesaurus and type big words for greed on a dying message board. Then, our corporate overlords will realize who is in control. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 12:38:45 PM #56: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Implies these companies are reading your posts. Considering they pay people to shill on forums for them. I wouldn't doubt it but don't find them reading my comments very plausible hockeybub89 posted... Maybe one day you'll have actual things to worry about. Also funny how you call PU a cuck while worshipping someone who lets people f*** his wife I absolutely love baseless conjecture --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 12:47:52 PM #57: |
Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets And as I've already explained that won't work because a handful of whales keep these microtransactions in games even though the community has made it clear we do not want microtransactions in our games Looks like I was spot on about reading comprehension not being a strong point of yours --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 12:49:11 PM #58: |
ZombiePelican posted...
I absolutely love baseless conjecture are you referring to: You having nothing better to do You being a Jim Sterling fan Jim Sterling being a cuck --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 08/28/17 12:50:02 PM #59: |
ZombiePelican posted...
keep these microtransactions in games Bok_Choi posted... ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets ZombiePelican posted... even though the community has made it clear Bok_Choi posted... ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets ZombiePelican posted... we do not want microtransactions in our games Bok_Choi posted... ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 12:50:59 PM #60: |
hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...I absolutely love baseless conjecture C. Final answer --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 08/28/17 12:51:42 PM #61: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Hasn't TC whined about companies listening to consumers over "SJW" things or am I confusing crybabies? That would be ironic given the man he is backing here. he whines about everything you ll notice everytime he makes a topic hes angry or pretending to be --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 12:52:31 PM #62: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets If they are doing it despite words, then that would seem to prove they care more about wallets. If all these games sold poorly because of microtransactions being in them, they'd probably be more inclined to reevaluate their business model. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 12:54:31 PM #63: |
Bok_Choi posted...
We already have voted with our wallets and even though the community has made it clear that we don't want microtransactions our full priced games but publishers care more about pleasing a few whales than the majority of the community --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 08/28/17 12:55:51 PM #64: |
everything you're telling me is that enough people are speaking with their wallets for companies to keep doing it
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 12:55:57 PM #65: |
hockeybub89 posted...
all these games sold poorly because of microtransactions being in them, they'd probably be more inclined to reevaluate their business model. Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 08/28/17 12:55:59 PM #66: |
Bok_Choi posted...
ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 12:56:44 PM #67: |
Bok_Choi posted...
Bok_Choi posted...ZP doesn't understand that customers don't speak with their mouths, they speak with their wallets ZombiePelican posted... Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 08/28/17 12:56:53 PM #68: |
if it stops working or is too ineffectual they'll stop
if it continues to make them money they'll continue your whining won't affect this at all lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:00:06 PM #69: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted... Have we voted with our wallets? PUBG is a huge sensation, despite not even being that great of a game. Overwatch is another Blizzard hit. Rocket League is huge. GTA V continues to be one of the best selling games of all time. Shadow of War is still highly anticipated. And that is just a few of what seem like infinite examples. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:00:36 PM #70: |
Bok_Choi posted...
if it stops working or is too ineffectual they'll stop Yeah just like when we were told on disc DLC , online passes, or always online DRM won't go anywhere from us whining online, right? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:03:31 PM #71: |
hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...Bok_Choi posted... ITP:People bought these games specifically because of microtransactions You're reaching pretty hard man --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:07:46 PM #72: |
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...ZombiePelican posted...Bok_Choi posted... That isn't my point. I'm saying if it bothers us, then we need to refuse to buy the games in the first place, not just refuse to buy the microtransactions after we already gave them money. If the companies only know greed, speak to them in their language. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MB2012 08/28/17 1:10:49 PM #73: |
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:10:50 PM #74: |
hockeybub89 posted...
That isn't my point. I'm saying if it bothers us, then we need to refuse to buy the games in the first place, not just refuse to buy the microtransactions after we already gave them money. If the companies only know greed, speak to them in their language. The language is quite clear, they know all too well the community hates these microtransactions but they just don't care because they're making money from idiots Because nobody has been able to answer my question yet ZombiePelican posted... Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:14:01 PM #75: |
MB2012 posted...
If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game Very rarely do you not. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:15:43 PM #76: |
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...That isn't my point. I'm saying if it bothers us, then we need to refuse to buy the games in the first place, not just refuse to buy the microtransactions after we already gave them money. If the companies only know greed, speak to them in their language. What? This is typically pretty transparent. How do simultaneously think you are "woke" while being so ignorant? And do you honestly think a company would be content with a few microtransaction whales if they lost millions in sales? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bok_Choi 08/28/17 1:15:59 PM #77: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is? Because initial sales only leave you so much money these are businesses and they are trying to generate revenue? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:34:19 PM #78: |
hockeybub89 posted...
What? This is typically pretty transparent. How do simultaneously think you are "woke" while being so ignorant? Irony, coming from the guy doing desperate mental gymnastics to defend the greed of publishers hockeybub89 posted... And do you honestly think a company would be content with a few microtransaction whales if they lost millions in sales? Again, the majority of people who actually do buy these microtransactions are whales and outspend the rest of the community combined. What about this is so hard to understand? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:35:45 PM #79: |
hockeybub89 posted...
MB2012 posted...If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game This literally made me spit out food. That's hiw stupid this comment is --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:39:32 PM #80: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Again, the majority of people who actually do buy these microtransactions are whales and outspend the rest of the community combined. What about this is so hard to understand? If no one buys a game, then the companies will take notice. They are greedy, so less money is worse than more money. And not even whales are going to spend money if they can't even find a match --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:40:07 PM #81: |
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...MB2012 posted...If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game I can't think of more than like a single handful. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:42:58 PM #82: |
Also, who exactly am I shilling for? The entire gaming industry? Companies in general? That doesn't make a lot of sense. Buy what should we expect from a guy that only wants companies to listen when he agrees with what people have to say?
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:45:02 PM #83: |
Bok_Choi posted...
ZombiePelican posted...Publishers actively hide microtransactions in review copies of games or add them later on after release why do you think this is? They're added post launch so people like me who actively avoid buying games with microtransactions will buy them. Now jusify them being hidden in review copies --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:49:04 PM #84: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Also, who exactly am I shilling for? Publishers and Player Unknown hockeybub89 posted... Buy what should we expect from a guy that only wants companies to listen when he agrees with what people have to say? WTF are you on? I want companies to listen to consumers not spineless shills like you --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 1:54:05 PM #85: |
hockeybub89 posted...
ZombiePelican posted...hockeybub89 posted...MB2012 posted...If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game Almost every game these days is released with tons of content sawed off to sell you as preorder bonuses, DLC, or microtransactions Like did you just start gaming 6 months ago? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:56:14 PM #86: |
ZombiePelican posted...
WTF are you on? I want companies to listen to consumers not spineless shills like you Oh so everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill? That is a convenient way to ignore people who disagree with you. You're even covered if you complain about companies bowing to the "SJWs". Also, if companies are greedy pieces of shit trying to fuck us all over, them how the fuck do you plan on getting them to listen to you? Can't they just count their money and fund studies that support their business model? You can't call them beholden to money and then think you can change them with words instead of (lack of) money. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 1:59:29 PM #87: |
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...ZombiePelican posted...hockeybub89 posted...MB2012 posted...If you pay full price for a game you should get a complete fucking game Well over 20 years ago actually. And I love it as much as I did as a small child. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mcpwnia 08/28/17 1:59:53 PM #88: |
You can't make fun of someone for being a "wage slave" when you've never earned a dollar in your life and spend your time collecting disability and screeching at game devs on a niche website where no one likes you
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 2:04:29 PM #89: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Oh so everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill? I'm a consumer advocate ,so yes If you disagree with me then that means you side with corporations and those driven purely by greed. Which both of these are literally indefensible hockeybub89 posted... That is a convenient way to ignore people who disagree with you. You're even covered if you complain about companies bowing to the "SJWs". Your point is irrelevant as SJWs don't buy or play actual videogames , but that's for another topic hockeybub89 posted... Also, if companies are greedy pieces of s*** trying to f*** us all over, them how the f*** do you plan on getting them to listen to you Squeaky wheel gets the grease hockeybub89 posted... Can't they just count their money and fund studies that support their business model? Why would they do that when they know people like you will shill for them for free? hockeybub89 posted... you can change them with words instead of (lack of) money. This model won't last forever, I'm just being a vocal consumer advocate and informing the uninformed --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 08/28/17 2:05:23 PM #90: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...cosmetic micro transactions are fine Yeah they are --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PlsGodDontBanMe 08/28/17 2:06:40 PM #91: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Bok_Choi posted...ZombiePelican posted...perpetually bitter and whiny shitposter Both of you suck but holy shit this is such an apt description of bok. --- Paintballreturns:Jesus Christ Raptor you're a terrible Mod stop banning me because you're butthurt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/28/17 2:07:22 PM #92: |
If you can't buy stuff to make yourself better, I don't care.
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 2:07:57 PM #93: |
hockeybub89 posted...
And I love it as much as I did as a small child. That doesn't seem to be the case with your willingness to be a loyal corporate shill --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 08/28/17 2:08:45 PM #94: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
If you can't buy stuff to make yourself better, I don't care. Most people don't Not to mention you can just rack up a ton of in game currency (which is extremely easy to do) and get cosmetics that way --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 2:11:55 PM #95: |
mcpwnia posted...
You can't make fun of someone for being a "wage slave" when you've never earned a dollar in your life and spend your time collecting disability and screeching at game devs on a niche website where no one likes you I actually work a 9 - 5 job like everyone else Samurontai posted... ZombiePelican posted...Mystery_Mission posted...cosmetic micro transactions are fine Nah, microtransactions have no place in a game you paid up front for --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 2:12:24 PM #96: |
ZombiePelican posted...
hockeybub89 posted...And I love it as much as I did as a small child. How can I be loyal to all of them? That doesn't seem like loyalty. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 08/28/17 2:12:25 PM #97: |
I don't get the argument as to why cosmetic in game purchases are something to fight against.
They make more money for the developers ideally to either put back into the game or into a new game, and it literally does nothing to change the core gameplay. --- It's art! YOU DON'T NEED PANTS! - Chris Jericho http://imgur.com/a/1zdpk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 08/28/17 2:14:34 PM #98: |
ZombiePelican posted...
Your point is irrelevant as SJWs don't buy or play actual videogames , but that's for another topic Jim Sterling does. He also doesn't play his wife. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZombiePelican 08/28/17 2:16:37 PM #99: |
Samurontai posted...
Most people don't Except when publishers want more money and start nerfing things like ingame currency payouts or lower the odds you'll get anything a good, ala Activision and Blizzard --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 08/28/17 2:20:22 PM #100: |
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
I don't get the argument as to why cosmetic in game purchases are something to fight against. i think they are agaisnt developers making money for some reason --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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