Current Events > Muslim bus driver returns $10,000 to Jewish man who had lost it.

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Despite the apparent cultural or religious differences, this Palestinian bus driver did not hesitate to return $10,000 in cash to the Jewish man who had lost it.

The 35-year-old driver, Ramadan Jamjoum, was piloting the 422 line from Jerusalem to the Orthodox city of Bnei Brak when the incident occurred. Jamjoum told police officers that he saw a Jewish man drop a roll of American cash as he was exiting the bus on Wednesday night.

“I tried to tell him but he didn’t hear me as he was on the phone, but afterwards I informed the company and submitted the money,” Jamjoum told AFP. He also reportedly said that the cash “did not tempt him” as “it is my duty morally and religiously, and to my God and my work, to return the money.”

A representative of the Afikim bus company then took the money to the police station. Law enforcement officers posted a note about the money in the lost and found section of the local newspaper.

The owner of the money was able to call the police station, provide sufficient details about the wad of cash, and pick up the bundle earlier today.

Full Article: https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/palestinian-bus-driver-finds-10000-returns-jewish-owner/



What a nice guy
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Bus driver returns $10,000 to man who had lost it.

Fixed.
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ever heard of taqiyya? checkmate libs
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Manocheese posted...

Bus driver returns $10,000 to man who had lost it.

Fixed.

in your effort to appear all PC and "I dont' see color" you miss the entire point and message of this feel good story of human peace.

Manocheese posted...

Bus driver returns $10,000 to man who had lost it.

Fixed.

Not really fixed you've just given us less information
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Decent people doing decent things, good news like this needs to happen more.
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He also reportedly said that the cash “did not tempt him” as “it is my duty morally and religiously, and to my God and my work, to return the money.”

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Skye Reynolds posted...

He also reportedly said that the cash “did not tempt him” as “it is my duty morally and religiously, and to my God and my work, to return the money.”

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It's stuff like this that I point out why I'm not an anti-theist. If it takes religion for people to do good things or be decent people, I'm all for it.
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In this case the fact that he is muslim and did it, should be noted.

Too many people just assume Islam is a hateful violent religion, it's nice to see something that shows the other side of that.
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I would offer a rebuttal if the mods didn't take everything the wrong way.
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Imagine if the roles were reversed
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SageHarpuia posted...

I would offer a rebuttal if the mods didn't take everything the wrong way.

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SageHarpuia posted...

I would offer a rebuttal if the mods didn't take everything the wrong way.

why tho
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UnfairRepresent posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

I would offer a rebuttal if the mods didn't take everything the wrong way.

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There's always "that guy".
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Klewer posted...

ever heard of taqiyya? checkmate libs

Isn't that just a permission to lie to infidels?
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Why is dude carrying around 10k in a roll of cash
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

In this case the fact that he is muslim and did it, should be noted.

Too many people just assume Islam is a hateful violent religion, it's nice to see something that shows the other side of that.

It is a terrible religion.

Great acts are usually done in spite of it, not because of it.

Wonderful act by this man.

Agreed on all points.

-Gavirulax- posted...

Sami1000 posted...

Klewer posted...

ever heard of taqiyya? checkmate libs

Isn't that just a permission to lie to infidels?

Most people who use that term outside the Muslim community don't even know which sects of Islam even practice it (few nowadays).

I see. I have heard that term many times, and have always assumed its something all Muslims can and should do.
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RebelElite791 posted...

Why is dude carrying around 10k in a roll of cash

You already know the answer to that
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it's like i've been saying. islamic people are good. but the religion of islam itself is awful.

good on him for being a good dude.
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This is a great story, and glad he did it. But the implication of mentioning the religions means that the expectation should be that Muslims would normally steal the money from the Jewish man, which sort of undercuts the "feel good" vibe here. No one is supposed to take $10K that they know belongs to someone else, and there isn't a lower bar for Muslims.
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Lightsasori posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

He also reportedly said that the cash “did not tempt him” as “it is my duty morally and religiously, and to my God and my work, to return the money.”

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It's stuff like this that I point out why I'm not an anti-theist. If it takes religion for people to do good things or be decent people, I'm all for it.

Agreed, sentiments exactly, especially as I'm an agnostic

Ruvan22 posted...

Lightsasori posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

He also reportedly said that the cash “did not tempt him” as “it is my duty morally and religiously, and to my God and my work, to return the money.”

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It's stuff like this that I point out why I'm not an anti-theist. If it takes religion for people to do good things or be decent people, I'm all for it.

Agreed, sentiments exactly, especially as I'm an agnostic

If you say so
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Why he gotta be Muslim TC?
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Klewer posted...

ever heard of taqiyya? checkmate libs

Why would a Jewish dude be complicit with taqiyya?
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ChromaticAngel posted...

Klewer posted...

ever heard of taqiyya? checkmate libs

Why would a Jewish dude be complicit with taqiyya?

I think he's just parodying conservashits who think any time a Muslim does something decent it's taqiyya
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Dustin1280 posted...

In this case the fact that he is muslim and did it, should be noted.

Too many people just assume Islam is a hateful violent religion, it's nice to see something that shows the other side of that.

It is a terrible religion.

Great acts are usually done in spite of it, not because of it.

Wonderful act by this man.

*Muslim does bad thing and cites religion*

"See! Islam is bad, he said he did it because of his religion!!"

*Muslim does good thing and cites religion*

"Psh, he did that in spite of his awful religion."

Great job with the confirmation bias, genius.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Why is dude carrying around 10k in a roll of cash

You already know the answer to that

He's a mob boss?
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Correct, if you knew anything about it you'd know why he wouldn't do this (especially for a Jewish person) if he followed more literal terms of the religon - which of course, is terrible.

I'd say you pick and choose, but you're not nearly knowledgeable enough to do it intentionally.

Plot twist: you don't know shit about Islam.

Even more plot twist: you don't know shit.
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Lightsasori posted...

Skye Reynolds posted...

He also reportedly said that the cash “did not tempt him” as “it is my duty morally and religiously, and to my God and my work, to return the money.”

^_^b

It's stuff like this that I point out why I'm not an anti-theist. If it takes religion for people to do good things or be decent people, I'm all for it.

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1337toothbrush posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Correct, if you knew anything about it you'd know why he wouldn't do this (especially for a Jewish person) if he followed more literal terms of the religon - which of course, is terrible.

I'd say you pick and choose, but you're not nearly knowledgeable enough to do it intentionally.

Plot twist: you don't know shit about Islam.

Even more plot twist: you don't know shit.

i hope you realizee gavi used to be muslim
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

1337toothbrush posted...

-Gavirulax- posted...

Correct, if you knew anything about it you'd know why he wouldn't do this (especially for a Jewish person) if he followed more literal terms of the religon - which of course, is terrible.

I'd say you pick and choose, but you're not nearly knowledgeable enough to do it intentionally.

Plot twist: you don't know shit about Islam.

Even more plot twist: you don't know shit.

i hope you realizee gavi used to be muslim

I hope you realize that doesn't make him less wrong.
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feel good story, horrible comments

we yahoo news or some shit
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-Gavirulax- posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

i hope you realizee gavi used to be muslim

Lol, it doesn't matter. I've lost count of the amount of times some over-emotional regressive tells me I know nothing about the religion I grew up with. All in the name of acceptance, of course.

Cite where in the religion this act of kindness isn't allowed. Seeing you use the term "regressive" tips me off that you're full of shit and will be unable to actually cite anything to back you up. You can pretend to have been a Muslim all you want, but it's meaningless if you don't even understand the religion you supposedly followed.
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Tag
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bevan306 posted...

feel good story, horrible comments

we yahoo news or some shit

You could add better comments.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

As opposed to all the times it isn't in reference to the Kufar?
As I said (the part you got so offended by) - we certainly don't have the religion to thank for his ability to tell the truth.
Secondly - even if I were to translate to you the English passages, you'd make up the usual apologetics which is unfortunately common with those who know nothing about Islam (i.e. the regressive left).

Regressive is a term I (coined by Maajid Nawaz, a Muslim I actually respect) use (like he does) against the regressive left, who usually (like you did just now) tell me that my own experience are invalid because you read some Muslim Brotherhood propaganda (not that you would know that) a couple of times.

Go ahead and translate the passages. You're already responding to me, how much more of an effort is it, really? You can't just say some inane bullshit like "if you knew anything about it you'd know why he wouldn't do this (especially for a Jewish person) if he followed more literal terms of the religon" and then claim you don't need to provide evidence. I, too, respect people like Maajid Nawaz, but you're using the term "regressive" in a way to condemn anyone who dares claim Islam is salvageable (which Maajid Nawaz is trying to do, so obviously you don't respect him as much as you claim).

-Gavirulax- posted...

If only it weren't true, it'd make your ignorance on the issue a lot more bearable.
If only.....<3

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/261-politics/75711788?jumpto=42#42

Needless to say your comment about Muhammad really drills home just how little you really do know about this (but as I said, if you wanna propagate that whole "I'm accepting!" nonsense, you'll not let anyone stand in the way).
Otherwise known as virtue signalling.

Perhaps I did not convey my thoughts properly, but if you see later on, I clarify it to mean that it doesn't instruct people to "kill people who insult Muhammad" or whatever bullshit. While you're afraid of people "accepting Islam" you've gone off the deep end where you condemn the religion as if it didn't have a single redeemable quality to it. You're not helping the situation by taking this approach.
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What would happen if it was the other way around?

this will be used as pro islam propaganda for years to come
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toyota posted...

What would happen if it was the other way around?

North Korea would invade Canada
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But the righties told me every single Muslim is a suicidal terrorist?
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-Gavirulax- posted...

1: Jizya, all over the place.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/references-to-jews-in-the-koran
(again, remember what I said, more literal - the more literal someone follows Islam, the more we in the west must worry about them) - though honestly you can continue thinking I'm just lying because it goes against your narrative, in that regard I'm really not worried. What I said originally still counts, good in SPITE of the religion, he didn't do this because of it (and for the record I don't claim ISIS blow things up because of Islam either, it's far more complicated than that).
On top of that the plethora of remarks in the Quran (not even touching the Hadith which is a whole different ballgame) about how property and the like pretty much belongs to Muslims - this isn't hard to find (nor is the obviously wonderful relationship Muhammad, and by extension Islam, has with Jewish people).

The problem with just throwing out verses like that is things like, for example:

"[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Seems pretty damning, right? Things need to be taken into context and, again, translation and interpretation is key:

http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2009/09/07/friendship-with-non-muslims-explaining-verse-551/

-Gavirulax- posted...

Nope, I used the term regressive because your first tactic was to literally accuse me of lying about my past (something that has been done to death with him as well). The whole "you're not a real Muslim, SHUT UP!!!" from people like you is shameful - which was basically your first few responses, so you can imagine why I didn't take you seriously.
Secondly, I do not think Islam is salvageable - that doesn't mean I think in extremes like most people, or that I cast aside the many Muslim relatives I have - they're obviously aware of why I think this as the religion wants me to die (or experience some form of eternal torture as dictated by some omnipotent supernatural deity) for about 3 different things.

The only reason why I responded the way I did was because it's a common tactic for an internet troll to pose as something they're not in an attempt to gain credibility. As we are on a message board, all I can go on is your word. Sorry for the accusation, I hope you can see where I'm coming from.

Why do you think Islam cannot be salvaged? There are multiple interpretations and I've definitely seen more forgiving interpretations, including some that believe hell is not even eternal:

http://www.quransmessage.com/articles/is%20the%20punishment%20of%20hell%20eternal%20FM3.htm

Which is why I question your belief that it cannot be salvaged. There seems to be room for liberal interpretation and I've mostly only seen extremist assholes take the stance that their interpretation is the only correct one and any deviation requires severe punishment.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

I've long since thought Islam is irredeemable, correct (and yes this is largely based on personal experience with what I can only call the most literal version of Islam, the one that follows the holy texts almost exactly) - I've since had the Christopher Hitchens style approach.
When it comes to the west - and I've said for a long time that I have a hard time thinking of anything positive that Islam has done in terms of the west/1st world countries.
Every time I go back to Lebanon and Turkey it is an unfortunate reminder.

I don't mind people practicing it, but again, what I said above stands - they're good people in spite of the religion, not because of it (even more so when dealing with "moderate Muslims" because they pick and choose which passages to follow).

Fair enough, that is your experience. Maybe I am naively optimistic to a stupid degree, but I believe a more liberal future for Islam is possible. The situation in the middle east is unfortunate, but that has more to do with politics in the region (where religion, as usual, has been used as a tool by politicians to further their agendas) than religion itself.
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