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VectorChaos
08/22/17 1:29:45 PM
#51:


Antifa wants to be a civilian secret police force.

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power, and are less likely to gain real power in the future than I am to develop superpowers due to radiation exposure in the next 20 minutes, are being touted as the new bogeyman, as though the Fourth Reich is right around the corner.

Antifa is being glorified for combating neo nazis. They've already shown, however, that they're perfectly willing to label anyone they disagree with as nazis, which then in their minds justifies violent attacks against them.

They have convinced themselves fully that they are an unquestionably good, righteous force. To question that also makes you a Nazi. There is no critical thinking involved in this belief. It is simply "But how could I possibly be wrong? I simply cannot be wrong!", fueled entirely by ego.

They are an authoritarians wet dream. They are useful idiots just waiting for someone to rally them into something worse. And it won't be the first time in this little thing called 'history' that people wholly convinced that they'll be on the right side of history will be fed the appropriate buzz words du jour, get told that 'the other side' is the antithesis of all that is good, and completely willingly usher in something far worse, like lemmings pouring over a cliff.
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darkjedilink
08/22/17 1:32:51 PM
#52:


AlternativeFAQS posted...
American revolutionists were terrorists

Yes, they were.
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darkjedilink
08/22/17 1:35:21 PM
#53:


pinky0926 posted...
It's always interesting to me how the people who are so vehemently furious about antifa tend to be the same people who say "they weren't all nazis", "they're just expressing their opinion", "statues are history", and other such nonsense.

I mean I don't condone antifa but if only you had this much enthusiasm against actual real life nazis being nazis in your country..

Unless and until a Neo-Nazi literally breaks a law, they have every right to look like a douchebag in public and out themselves to the world.

Butthurt liberals do not have a right to riot in response, however.
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HypnoCoosh
08/22/17 1:38:22 PM
#54:


VectorChaos posted...
Antifa wants to be a civilian secret police force.

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power, and are less likely to gain real power in the future than I am to develop superpowers due to radiation exposure in the next 20 minutes, are being touted as the new bogeyman, as though the Fourth Reich is right around the corner.

Antifa is being glorified for combating neo nazis. They've already shown, however, that they're perfectly willing to label anyone they disagree with as nazis, which then in their minds justifies violent attacks against them.

They have convinced themselves fully that they are an unquestionably good, righteous force. To question that also makes you a Nazi. There is no critical thinking involved in this belief. It is simply "But how could I possibly be wrong? I simply cannot be wrong!", fueled entirely by ego.

They are an authoritarians wet dream. They are useful idiots just waiting for someone to rally them into something worse. And it won't be the first time in this little thing called 'history' that people wholly convinced that they'll be on the right side of history will be fed the appropriate buzz words du jour, get told that 'the other side' is the antithesis of all that is good, and completely willingly usher in something far worse, like lemmings pouring over a cliff.


Underrated post.
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YourAlt
08/22/17 1:47:02 PM
#55:


FaytlessHearts posted...
YourAlt posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
Signed. Is there a petition for the BLM to be considered a terrorist organization too? Antifa is the same as isis, is the same as blm, is the same as neo nazis.

Scum that I wipe off my boots.


Like hypno, antifa members are better human beings than you.

Okay. I don't do horrible things to people that disagree with me. Like beat them savagely. All those organizations are scum of the planet. They have no courage standing alone, so they need mobs to bash someone. Doesn't matter what 'side' of the spectrum you're on, that's a hate group plain and simple. They incite terror, and are therefore terrorists.


None of this is true.

Do you think the actions of the very few speak for an entire group?
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pinky0926
08/22/17 1:47:50 PM
#56:


darkjedilink posted...
Unless and until a Neo-Nazi literally breaks a law, they have every right to look like a douchebag in public and out themselves to the world.

Butthurt liberals do not have a right to riot in response, however.


This sort of comment suggests that all Nazis are doing is sharing their opinion, and all liberals are doing is inciting violence out of thin air. You know that's not really an honest argument?
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YourAlt
08/22/17 1:48:23 PM
#57:


--kresnik-- posted...
YourAlt posted...
Antifa members are better human beings than people like Hypnocoosh.

Wow. His must be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

@HypnoCoosh, mind if I make this my sig?


Please use it.
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ChromaticAngel
08/22/17 1:49:41 PM
#58:


VectorChaos posted...

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power,


Bullshit, they are one of the main organized crime factions in America under the Aryan Nation name.
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HypnoCoosh
08/22/17 1:50:02 PM
#59:


YourAlt posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
YourAlt posted...
Antifa members are better human beings than people like Hypnocoosh.

Wow. His must be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

@HypnoCoosh, mind if I make this my sig?


Please use it.


Hopefully he does and puts your name right next to it so everyone can always remember just how special you are.
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HypnoCoosh
08/22/17 1:50:35 PM
#60:


ChromaticAngel posted...
VectorChaos posted...

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power,


Bullshit, they are one of the main organized crime factions in America under the Aryan Nation name.


Fuck you watch too many movies. Go outside.
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VectorChaos
08/22/17 1:52:20 PM
#61:


ChromaticAngel posted...
VectorChaos posted...

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power,


Bullshit, they are one of the main organized crime factions in America under the Aryan Nation name.


Is the Aryan Nation a big presence in government and politics?

I'll wait.
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WaffIeElite
08/22/17 1:59:18 PM
#62:


Lolno.
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Kineth
08/22/17 2:00:53 PM
#63:


VectorChaos posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
VectorChaos posted...

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power,


Bullshit, they are one of the main organized crime factions in America under the Aryan Nation name.


Is the Aryan Nation a big presence in government and politics?

I'll wait.


Yes, they have a huge presence in the police force.
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VectorChaos
08/22/17 2:05:59 PM
#64:


Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
VectorChaos posted...

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power,


Bullshit, they are one of the main organized crime factions in America under the Aryan Nation name.


Is the Aryan Nation a big presence in government and politics?

I'll wait.


Yes, they have a huge presence in the police force.


Dat source
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FaytlessHearts
08/22/17 2:06:48 PM
#65:


Just realized that @YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.
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Kineth
08/22/17 2:08:18 PM
#66:


VectorChaos posted...
Dat source


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-fbi-finds-white-supremacists-infiltrated-law-enforcement-agencies/ar-AAmsNqM
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

It's called reading a fucking newspaper, btw.
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muchdran
08/22/17 2:13:51 PM
#67:


Signed
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VectorChaos
08/22/17 2:14:34 PM
#68:


Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Dat source


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-fbi-finds-white-supremacists-infiltrated-law-enforcement-agencies/ar-AAmsNqM
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

It's called reading a fucking newspaper, btw.


I'm not seeing any numbers. Just that yes, there are bad people who manage to become cops.

I'd hate to break this to you, but the police aren't a secret Nazi organization. But keep trying to build up that bogeyman.
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HypnoCoosh
08/22/17 2:15:02 PM
#69:


Up to 248,920 signed now!

That's like 5k in the last hour
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Kineth
08/22/17 2:17:46 PM
#70:


VectorChaos posted...
Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Dat source


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-fbi-finds-white-supremacists-infiltrated-law-enforcement-agencies/ar-AAmsNqM
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

It's called reading a fucking newspaper, btw.


I'm not seeing any numbers. Just that yes, there are bad people who manage to become cops.

I'd hate to break this to you, but the police aren't a secret Nazi organization. But keep trying to build up that bogeyman.


It's literally more of a presence than Antifa who you want to consider to be a terrorist organization. You're not fooling anyone with this selective benefit of the doubt bullshit.
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--kresnik--
08/22/17 2:18:56 PM
#71:


HypnoCoosh posted...
YourAlt posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
YourAlt posted...
Antifa members are better human beings than people like Hypnocoosh.

Wow. His must be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

@HypnoCoosh, mind if I make this my sig?


Please use it.


Hopefully he does and puts your name right next to it so everyone can always remember just how special you are.

Yep!
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--kresnik--
08/22/17 2:19:36 PM
#72:


FaytlessHearts posted...
Just realized that YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.


It's JamesX. He's been banned so many times that I've lost count.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/22/17 2:23:47 PM
#73:


I'm actually a lot less hostile toward Antifa since they legit saved people's lives against the KKK at Charlottesville.
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--kresnik--
08/22/17 2:24:39 PM
#74:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
I'm actually a lot less hostile toward Antifa since they legit saved people's lives against the KKK at Charlottesville.

X fing D

You're funny.
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HypnoCoosh
08/22/17 2:27:13 PM
#75:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
Charlottesville


Totally not a false flag. Totally.

totally dude.
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darkjedilink
08/22/17 2:30:18 PM
#76:


HypnoCoosh posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Antifa wants to be a civilian secret police force.

Neo Nazis, who haven't ever had real power, and are less likely to gain real power in the future than I am to develop superpowers due to radiation exposure in the next 20 minutes, are being touted as the new bogeyman, as though the Fourth Reich is right around the corner.

Antifa is being glorified for combating neo nazis. They've already shown, however, that they're perfectly willing to label anyone they disagree with as nazis, which then in their minds justifies violent attacks against them.

They have convinced themselves fully that they are an unquestionably good, righteous force. To question that also makes you a Nazi. There is no critical thinking involved in this belief. It is simply "But how could I possibly be wrong? I simply cannot be wrong!", fueled entirely by ego.

They are an authoritarians wet dream. They are useful idiots just waiting for someone to rally them into something worse. And it won't be the first time in this little thing called 'history' that people wholly convinced that they'll be on the right side of history will be fed the appropriate buzz words du jour, get told that 'the other side' is the antithesis of all that is good, and completely willingly usher in something far worse, like lemmings pouring over a cliff.

Underrated post.

Very.
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VectorChaos
08/22/17 2:30:33 PM
#77:


Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
Dat source


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/report-fbi-finds-white-supremacists-infiltrated-law-enforcement-agencies/ar-AAmsNqM
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

It's called reading a fucking newspaper, btw.


I'm not seeing any numbers. Just that yes, there are bad people who manage to become cops.

I'd hate to break this to you, but the police aren't a secret Nazi organization. But keep trying to build up that bogeyman.


It's literally more of a presence than Antifa who you want to consider to be a terrorist organization. You're not fooling anyone with this selective benefit of the doubt bullshit.


I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Neither group currently has any real power.

Historical precedent, however, says that one of those groups is primed to be hijacked, controlled, and used by someone else to attain power.

Spoilers

It's not the neo nazis. They're universally reviled.
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NinjaWarrior455
08/22/17 2:30:50 PM
#78:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Charlottesville


Totally not a false flag. Totally.

totally dude.

A false flag? Seriously? Now you've just ousted youself as a complete joke that no one should ever take seriously, not that you should have been taken seriously in the first place.
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Kineth
08/22/17 2:32:03 PM
#79:


VectorChaos posted...
I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Neither group currently has any real power.


So with the evidence presented, those two statements of yours contradict each other.
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darkjedilink
08/22/17 2:33:12 PM
#80:


pinky0926 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Unless and until a Neo-Nazi literally breaks a law, they have every right to look like a douchebag in public and out themselves to the world.

Butthurt liberals do not have a right to riot in response, however.

This sort of comment suggests that all Nazis are doing is sharing their opinion, and all liberals are doing is inciting violence out of thin air. You know that's not really an honest argument?

I also know that Antifa showed up armed in Charlottesville, and the Nazi protest was illegally shut down before it began, and law enforcement literally pushed them into an armed Antifa mob.
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Were_Wyrm
08/22/17 2:33:41 PM
#81:


Needs 0 signatures by September 16, 2017 to get a response from the White House

Eh why bother.
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VectorChaos
08/22/17 2:39:19 PM
#82:


Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Neither group currently has any real power.


So with the evidence presented, those two statements of yours contradict each other.


Ignoring a certain part of that post. Adorable.
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Kineth
08/22/17 2:40:40 PM
#83:


VectorChaos posted...
Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Neither group currently has any real power.


So with the evidence presented, those two statements of yours contradict each other.


Ignoring a certain part of that post. Adorable.


The part that's complete speculation? Sorry, I'm not interested in pipe dreams of civilization crumbling to push a narrative.
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Horus_Leftfield
08/22/17 2:43:57 PM
#84:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Charlottesville


Totally not a false flag. Totally.

totally dude.


Are you fucking serious
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Lordsai
08/22/17 2:56:49 PM
#85:


Signed
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Lordsai
08/22/17 2:58:14 PM
#86:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Charlottesville


Totally not a false flag. Totally.

totally dude.


Are you fucking serious


Amazing how a bunch of Neo Nazi's just suddenly pop up when the Russian narrative is going to shit......just amazing.
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--kresnik--
08/22/17 2:59:46 PM
#87:


VectorChaos posted...
Kineth posted...
VectorChaos posted...
I'm not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.

Neither group currently has any real power.


So with the evidence presented, those two statements of yours contradict each other.


Ignoring a certain part of that post. Adorable.

meet Kineth
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HypnoCoosh
08/22/17 3:00:27 PM
#88:


Alex Fields was diagnosed with schizophrenia. Take that for what you will.
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John_Galt
08/22/17 3:11:07 PM
#89:


Thanks for the link, tc
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FrenchCrunch
08/22/17 3:19:50 PM
#90:


Lordsai posted...
Amazing how a bunch of Neo Nazi's just suddenly pop up when the Russian narrative is going to shit......just amazing.

there have still been huge developments in the russia investigation bro like what
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YourAlt
08/22/17 3:27:48 PM
#91:


HypnoCoosh posted...
YourAlt posted...
--kresnik-- posted...
YourAlt posted...
Antifa members are better human beings than people like Hypnocoosh.

Wow. His must be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

@HypnoCoosh, mind if I make this my sig?


Please use it.


Hopefully he does and puts your name right next to it so everyone can always remember just how special you are.


I hope he does. You have terrible opinion about everything, and everyone knows it.

Any Antifa member is a better person than you.
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YourAlt
08/22/17 3:28:33 PM
#92:


FaytlessHearts posted...
Just realized that @YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.


If that makes you feel better for having absurd opinions, go with it.
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RE_expert44
08/22/17 3:29:26 PM
#93:


Fuck antifa. Too deluded to realize how awful they truly are
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YourAlt
08/22/17 3:30:44 PM
#94:


--kresnik-- posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
Just realized that YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.


It's JamesX. He's been banned so many times that I've lost count.


Lol, not even close to as much as you.

Southcoast had about 7-8 alts banned in a period of 48 hours about 2 months ago
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Esrac
08/22/17 3:44:19 PM
#95:


http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/07/antifa-listed-among-domestic-terrorism-group-by-new-jersey/

New Jersey is a step ahead of you. The article even includes a video of an antifa activist pepper spraying a woman in a MAGA hat immediately after she finishes talking to the press.

I know it's a right-leaning source, but we seem to have this situation where left-leaning sources just don't cover, or downplay, the bad behaviour of Antifa. Probably because they either support their stated goal of combating fascism or because they don't want to validate the claims of people on the Right who criticize Antifa.

I'm not aware of anything lethal they've done yet, but antifa are known to commit acts of violence and vandalism. Throwing M80s into crowds, throwing glass bottles, pepper spraying people, throwing tear gas (but the wind was against them so they gassed themselves), stalking and assaulting journalists at G20, beating people over their heads with metal bike locks, etc.

That snopes article became questionable to me the moment they try to say she probably wasn't throwing glass bottles, but maybe just picking up trash. Please.
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Ilove4chan
08/22/17 3:45:54 PM
#96:


I'll sign that when people acknowledge the Republican Party as a terrorist organization
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Zeeak4444
08/22/17 3:46:00 PM
#97:


FaytlessHearts posted...
Just realized that @YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.


@FaytlessHearts

He's actually Amputation/jamesX who was around longer.

Still a joke user not worth responding to though. Dudes a joke.
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YourAlt
08/22/17 3:49:38 PM
#98:


Zeeak4444 posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
Just realized that @YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.


@FaytlessHearts

He's actually Amputation/jamesX who was around longer.

Still a joke user not worth responding to though. Dudes a joke.


Then tell these breathing jokes to stop replying.

Fuck off.
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Zeeak4444
08/22/17 3:49:38 PM
#99:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Charlottesville


Totally not a false flag. Totally.

totally dude.

A false flag? Seriously? Now you've just ousted youself as a complete joke that no one should ever take seriously, not that you should have been taken seriously in the first place.


So no one forgets.

Charlottesvile was a false flag according to the increasingly unhinged hypnocoosh
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Ilove4chan
08/22/17 3:50:27 PM
#100:


YourAlt posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
Just realized that @YourAlt is a rookie user. Will be disregarding all his "information" lol. Joke.


If that makes you feel better for having absurd opinions, go with it.

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