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gamepimp12 08/22/17 6:54:52 AM #1:	Like you obviously want and cherish your white supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after. Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885226354] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Like you obviously want and cherish your white supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after. Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePredominate 08/22/17 6:58:16 AM #2:	Who even cares, they're vile trash either way. --- Keep your face to the Sunshine, and you will not see the Shadows. <cite>ThePredominate posted [p:885226412] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Who even cares, they're vile trash either way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/22/17 6:58:29 AM #3:	Because it's literally racist. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:885226420] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Because it's literally racist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:01:20 AM #4:	UnfairRepresent posted... Because it's literally racist. I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings anyways sit quiet and listen ? Anytime they speak on a like topic like the miniority experiences in America, they take away mic time from an actual minority --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885226476] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Because it's literally racist.</quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings anyways sit quiet and listen ? Anytime they speak on a like topic like the miniority experiences in America, they take away mic time from an actual minority</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flasbangs 08/22/17 7:02:14 AM #5:	Let's turn USA into South Africa, you'll see that black people are the least racist people on the planet, --- "That's the metaphorical equivalent of flopping your wedding tackle into a lion's mouth and flicking his love spuds with a wet towel" - Arnold Rimmer <cite>Flasbangs posted [p:885226505] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Let's turn USA into South Africa, you'll see that black people are the least racist people on the planet,</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:04:28 AM #6:	Flasbangs posted... Let's turn USA into South Africa, you'll see that black people are the least racist people on the planet, Where was that come from --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885226548] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Flasbangs posted...</cite> <quote>Let's turn USA into South Africa, you'll see that black people are the least racist people on the planet,</quote> Where was that come from</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 7:09:50 AM #7:	gamepimp12 posted... I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885226677] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/22/17 7:11:36 AM #8:	gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:885226727] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 08/22/17 7:11:55 AM #9:	Because most reasonable people see that inclusiveness is key in improving race relations. --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:885226739] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Because most reasonable people see that inclusiveness is key in improving race relations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 08/22/17 7:16:51 AM #10:	It should not be hard to understand. Fighting against segregation and the effects of segregation by using segregation is not a good look. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:885226842] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>It should not be hard to understand. Fighting against segregation and the effects of segregation by using segregation is not a good look.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:21:41 AM #11:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gamepimp12 posted... I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after. I wouldn't disagree with that in concept at least. I can't really think of place that would be used in practice though --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885226964] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after.</quote></quote> I wouldn't disagree with that in concept at least. I can't really think of place that would be used in practice though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 7:22:53 AM #12:	gamepimp12 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... gamepimp12 posted... I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after. I wouldn't disagree with that in concept at least. I can't really think of place that would be used in practice though Because such a place is likely a KKK meeting. Assuming someone can't contribute to a group because of their skin color is what ethnonationalists believe. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885226984] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after.</quote></quote> I wouldn't disagree with that in concept at least. I can't really think of place that would be used in practice though</quote> Because such a place is likely a KKK meeting. Assuming someone can't contribute to a group because of their skin color is what ethnonationalists believe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:24:18 AM #13:	UnfairRepresent posted... gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885227012] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid.</quote> Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:25:10 AM #15:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gamepimp12 posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... gamepimp12 posted... I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after. I wouldn't disagree with that in concept at least. I can't really think of place that would be used in practice though Because such a place is likely a KKK meeting. Assuming someone can't contribute to a group because of their skin color is what ethnonationalists believe. So white people have no shared experiences that aren't based in hating others ? No ones saying they can't contribute just that they don't provide in that situation, they should provide in different ways --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885227037] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't get the hate for the no black people meetings Like you obviously want and cherish your black supporters But when discussing shared experiences around people who don't share said experience the discussion becomes more informative than anything. It's just more unnecessary mouths, you come talk to them after.</quote></quote> I wouldn't disagree with that in concept at least. I can't really think of place that would be used in practice though</quote> Because such a place is likely a KKK meeting. Assuming someone can't contribute to a group because of their skin color is what ethnonationalists believe.</quote> So white people have no shared experiences that aren't based in hating others ? No ones saying they can't contribute just that they don't provide in that situation, they should provide in different ways</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 7:26:02 AM #16:	Conflict posted... Yeah you obviously don't get the point of 'safe spaces' if you're going to make that comparison Imagine if someone declared a "safe space" where no black people were allowed. Imagine how that would go over, and imagine the kind of people who would enforce that kind of segregation. Now ask yourself why other racially-segregated "safe spaces" are any different. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885227062] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah you obviously don't get the point of 'safe spaces' if you're going to make that comparison</quote> Imagine if someone declared a "safe space" where no black people were allowed. Imagine how that would go over, and imagine the kind of people who would enforce that kind of segregation. Now ask yourself why other racially-segregated "safe spaces" are any different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 7:27:04 AM #17:	gamepimp12 posted... So white people have no shared experiences that aren't based in hating others ? Experience is not limited by racial categories. Does Jayden Smith have more in common with a rich white kid, or a destitute black kid? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885227079] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>So white people have no shared experiences that aren't based in hating others ?</quote> Experience is not limited by racial categories. Does Jayden Smith have more in common with a rich white kid, or a destitute black kid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 7:29:10 AM #18:	gamepimp12 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:885227133] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid.</quote> Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites</quote> Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:31:20 AM #19:	Sephiroth1288 posted... gamepimp12 posted... So white people have no shared experiences that aren't based in hating others ? Experience is not limited by racial categories. Does Jayden Smith have more in common with a rich white kid, or a destitute black kid? Def the rich kid. But we're talking about racial experiences here --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885227193] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>So white people have no shared experiences that aren't based in hating others ?</quote> Experience is not limited by racial categories. Does Jayden Smith have more in common with a rich white kid, or a destitute black kid?</quote> Def the rich kid. But we're talking about racial experiences here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:35:25 AM #21:	3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over? I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885227293] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid.</quote> Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites</quote> Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over?</quote> I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Perascamin 08/22/17 7:36:10 AM #22:	Groups like BLM don't want equality for blacks, they want superiority. --- I've grown. <cite>Perascamin posted [p:885227315] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Groups like BLM don't want equality for blacks, they want superiority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:38:00 AM #23:	Perascamin posted... Groups like BLM don't want equality for blacks, they want superiority. No that group is called hoteps and everyone hates them even BLM --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885227353] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Perascamin posted...</cite> <quote>Groups like BLM don't want equality for blacks, they want superiority.</quote> No that group is called hoteps and everyone hates them even BLM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 7:42:00 AM #24:	gamepimp12 posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over? I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse And what's the point of being quiet? If you want support then a dialogue between different people should be encouraged. Racial exclusion does nothing more than allow your opponents to declare you're just as much of a problem as the one you're trying to solve, then you have to bend over backwards and use mental gymnastics in order to plead your case in how you're different. Which is totally counter productive. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:885227458] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. </quote> Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites </quote> Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over?</quote> I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse</quote> And what's the point of being quiet? If you want support then a dialogue between different people should be encouraged. Racial exclusion does nothing more than allow your opponents to declare you're just as much of a problem as the one you're trying to solve, then you have to bend over backwards and use mental gymnastics in order to plead your case in how you're different. Which is totally counter productive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 7:47:54 AM #25:	3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over? I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse And what's the point of being quiet? If you want support then a dialogue between different people should be encouraged. Racial exclusion does nothing more than allow your opponents to declare you're just as much of a problem as the one you're trying to solve, then you have to bend over backwards and use mental gymnastics in order to plead your case in how you're different. Which is totally counter productive. .... I swear I just said you want people who don't share the in experience quiet so the meeting doesnt become about explaining and arguing over said experiences --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885227621] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. </quote> Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites </quote> Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over?</quote> I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse</quote> And what's the point of being quiet? If you want support then a dialogue between different people should be encouraged. Racial exclusion does nothing more than allow your opponents to declare you're just as much of a problem as the one you're trying to solve, then you have to bend over backwards and use mental gymnastics in order to plead your case in how you're different. Which is totally counter productive.</quote> .... I swear I just said you want people who don't share the in experience quiet so the meeting doesnt become about explaining and arguing over said experiences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 08/22/17 7:50:48 AM #26:	Conflict posted... Sephiroth1288 posted... Conflict posted... Yeah you obviously don't get the point of 'safe spaces' if you're going to make that comparison Imagine if someone declared a "safe space" where no black people were allowed. Imagine how that would go over, and imagine the kind of people who would enforce that kind of segregation. Now ask yourself why other racially-segregated "safe spaces" are any different. The literal whole point of 'safe spaces' is for minorities to discuss minority experiences. Now that this has been explained to you do you see why your comparison doesn't make sense? Or do I need to point out to you that white people aren't a minority And ideally they should allow people of other races to listen so they can get an idea of what's going on and improve race relations, but they're trying to prevent potential dissenters that refuse to listen and decide to be dismissive of their experiences. I don't agree with it but that's where the drastic measure comes in. White people are minorities in over 50% of cities in the US. If they hold a meeting in Philly or NYC or Baltimore or Boston can white people attend then? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:885227700] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah you obviously don't get the point of 'safe spaces' if you're going to make that comparison</quote> Imagine if someone declared a "safe space" where no black people were allowed. Imagine how that would go over, and imagine the kind of people who would enforce that kind of segregation. Now ask yourself why other racially-segregated "safe spaces" are any different.</quote> The literal whole point of 'safe spaces' is for minorities to discuss minority experiences. Now that this has been explained to you do you see why your comparison doesn't make sense? Or do I need to point out to you that white people aren't a minority And ideally they should allow people of other races to listen so they can get an idea of what's going on and improve race relations, but they're trying to prevent potential dissenters that refuse to listen and decide to be dismissive of their experiences. I don't agree with it but that's where the drastic measure comes in.</quote> White people are minorities in over 50% of cities in the US. If they hold a meeting in Philly or NYC or Baltimore or Boston can white people attend then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 7:58:30 AM #27:	gamepimp12 posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... UnfairRepresent posted... gamepimp12 posted... I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over? I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse And what's the point of being quiet? If you want support then a dialogue between different people should be encouraged. Racial exclusion does nothing more than allow your opponents to declare you're just as much of a problem as the one you're trying to solve, then you have to bend over backwards and use mental gymnastics in order to plead your case in how you're different. Which is totally counter productive. .... I swear I just said you want people who don't share the in experience quiet so the meeting doesnt become about explaining and arguing over said experiences And your assumption is that because they're white then that automatically means that they're in that meeting just yo be in contention. Combating racist prejudices against black people will never happen when you insist on holding those very same prejudices against other people. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:885227890] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean what are white people supposed to do in those meetings </quote> The same thing people are supposed to do in those meetings. You're the one saying people of certain races cannot take part due to their race. That's racism. As well as stupid. </quote> Okay so as a white person what do you do when miniorites are talking about their experiences as miniorites </quote> Listen and learn. What's the point of talking about your experience as a black person when you invite only black people to participate and only black people to listen? How's an echo chamber supposed to foster an understanding with the people whose opinions and hearts you're trying to win over? </quote> I would generally agree but I think it's unrealistic to assume people are just gonna be quiet. Also that's why you have a second meeting with your white supports for that discourse </quote> And what's the point of being quiet? If you want support then a dialogue between different people should be encouraged. Racial exclusion does nothing more than allow your opponents to declare you're just as much of a problem as the one you're trying to solve, then you have to bend over backwards and use mental gymnastics in order to plead your case in how you're different. Which is totally counter productive.</quote> .... I swear I just said you want people who don't share the in experience quiet so the meeting doesnt become about explaining and arguing over said experiences</quote> And your assumption is that because they're white then that automatically means that they're in that meeting just yo be in contention. Combating racist prejudices against black people will never happen when you insist on holding those very same prejudices against other people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 08/22/17 8:11:02 AM #28:	"All white people and white reporters to the back of the line!" Leftists: "Oh I like her. How progressive!!" --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:885228228] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>"All white people and white reporters to the back of the line!" Leftists: "Oh I like her. How progressive!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MattSFfrd 08/22/17 8:11:50 AM #29:	BLM is a fucking terrorist group --- http://i.imgur.com/DHLvJ5Q.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQy5giAUsAAUXXa.jpg <cite>MattSFfrd posted [p:885228252] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>BLM is a fucking terrorist group</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 8:11:55 AM #30:	gamepimp12 posted... But we're talking about racial experiences here Once again, Sephiroth1288 posted... Experience is not limited by racial categories. The only sort of people who believe differently are ethnonationalists (Nazis). --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885228253] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>But we're talking about racial experiences here</quote> Once again, <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote>Experience is not limited by racial categories. </quote> The only sort of people who believe differently are ethnonationalists (Nazis).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 08/22/17 8:12:54 AM #31:	i for one, don't understand why white people should care about what BLM has to say. BLM has proven time and time again they aren't worth listening to and should be disbanded due to their violence, hate and racism. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:885228288] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>i for one, don't understand why white people should care about what BLM has to say. BLM has proven time and time again they aren't worth listening to and should be disbanded due to their violence, hate and racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MattSFfrd 08/22/17 8:14:53 AM #32:	Rika_Furude posted... i for one, don't understand why white people should care about what BLM has to say. i couldn't give less of a shit what they have to say, it's the violence i'm concerned about --- http://i.imgur.com/DHLvJ5Q.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQy5giAUsAAUXXa.jpg <cite>MattSFfrd posted [p:885228346] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i for one, don't understand why white people should care about what BLM has to say.</quote> i couldn't give less of a shit what they have to say, it's the violence i'm concerned about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 8:39:41 AM #33:	I never said they had to be in contention, a lot of the damage they do in meetings is purely unintentional. My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. All it takes is something as simply as a reference they don't understand and the topic was derailed --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885229075] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>I never said they had to be in contention, a lot of the damage they do in meetings is purely unintentional. My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. All it takes is something as simply as a reference they don't understand and the topic was derailed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 8:45:00 AM #34:	gamepimp12 posted... My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. Can you just give us an example of an experience only black people have that no white person would have a frame of reference for? --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885229262] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic.</quote> Can you just give us an example of an experience only black people have that no white person would have a frame of reference for?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 08/22/17 8:45:39 AM #35:	Safe spaces are fucking stupid and only divide people more. If they want to have meetings about shared experiences of black people being discriminated against let the white people attend. So they can learn. Tell them they can only contribute if they are telling stories of seeing black people being discriminated against. Otherwise just listen. I'm pretty sure people are capable of that. --- go join the "expletive not allowed" nazis then. you "expletive not allowed" psycho- Spudger 01/15/17 <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:885229287] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Safe spaces are fucking stupid and only divide people more. If they want to have meetings about shared experiences of black people being discriminated against let the white people attend. So they can learn. Tell them they can only contribute if they are telling stories of seeing black people being discriminated against. Otherwise just listen. I'm pretty sure people are capable of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/22/17 8:51:02 AM #36:	gamepimp12 posted... I never said they had to be in contention, a lot of the damage they do in meetings is purely unintentional. My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. All it takes is something as simply as a reference they don't understand and the topic was derailed Seems like it would be more fruitful to explain to them what they're doing wrong unintentionally instead of just excluding them entirely. That way they'll understand you better and it'll help lead to a more productive dialogue. Try bridging that gap in understanding instead of demanding that white people should just do as they're told and to shut up. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.2 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:885229467] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>I never said they had to be in contention, a lot of the damage they do in meetings is purely unintentional. My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. All it takes is something as simply as a reference they don't understand and the topic was derailed</quote> Seems like it would be more fruitful to explain to them what they're doing wrong unintentionally instead of just excluding them entirely. That way they'll understand you better and it'll help lead to a more productive dialogue. Try bridging that gap in understanding instead of demanding that white people should just do as they're told and to shut up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/22/17 8:52:36 AM #37:	gamepimp12 posted... Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak And like with AA, the problem exists with the people at BLM meetings. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:885229506] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak</quote> And like with AA, the problem exists with the people at BLM meetings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 8:54:22 AM #38:	3rd_Best_Master posted... gamepimp12 posted... I never said they had to be in contention, a lot of the damage they do in meetings is purely unintentional. My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. All it takes is something as simply as a reference they don't understand and the topic was derailed Seems like it would be more fruitful to explain to them what they're doing wrong unintentionally instead of just excluding them entirely. That way they'll understand you better and it'll help lead to a more productive dialogue. Try bridging that gap in understanding instead of demanding that white people should just do as they're told and to shut up. That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders. You have that open dialogue another time, and more frequently than you have the minority only meeting --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885229552] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>I never said they had to be in contention, a lot of the damage they do in meetings is purely unintentional. My point is in meetings about shared experiences someone who doesn't share in the experience just distracts from the topic. All it takes is something as simply as a reference they don't understand and the topic was derailed</quote> Seems like it would be more fruitful to explain to them what they're doing wrong unintentionally instead of just excluding them entirely. That way they'll understand you better and it'll help lead to a more productive dialogue. Try bridging that gap in understanding instead of demanding that white people should just do as they're told and to shut up.</quote> That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders. You have that open dialogue another time, and more frequently than you have the minority only meeting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 08/22/17 8:58:11 AM #39:	gamepimp12 posted... That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders. This only leads to an echo chamber and self radicalization. Maybe if you fucking listened to dissent instead of trying to justified your bull shit, you'd figure out why people hate BLM, people that support police reforms as well. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:885229696] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders.</quote> This only leads to an echo chamber and self radicalization. Maybe if you fucking listened to dissent instead of trying to justified your bull shit, you'd figure out why people hate BLM, people that support police reforms as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 8:59:34 AM #40:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... gamepimp12 posted... Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak And like with AA, the problem exists with the people at BLM meetings. Umm that's not why AA doesn't let support systems speak --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885229743] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak</quote> And like with AA, the problem exists with the people at BLM meetings.</quote> Umm that's not why AA doesn't let support systems speak</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:01:09 AM #41:	gamepimp12 posted... Anarchy_Juiblex posted... gamepimp12 posted... Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak And like with AA, the problem exists with the people at BLM meetings. Umm that's not why AA doesn't let support systems speak That's exactly why...no one attends an AA meeting when there's nothing wrong with them. --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885229787] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>Like for example at Addict Anonymous they don't let support systems speak</quote> And like with AA, the problem exists with the people at BLM meetings.</quote> Umm that's not why AA doesn't let support systems speak</quote> That's exactly why...no one attends an AA meeting when there's nothing wrong with them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 08/22/17 9:01:14 AM #42:	All I see it doing it creating more of a divide - invite white people to them actively, make them a part of it. Help them understand things they might not otherwise. Keeping them out will just mean they will continue to not understand/know and perpetuate the "us and them" mentality. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:885229791] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>All I see it doing it creating more of a divide - invite white people to them actively, make them a part of it. Help them understand things they might not otherwise. Keeping them out will just mean they will continue to not understand/know and perpetuate the "us and them" mentality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:01:39 AM #43:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... gamepimp12 posted... That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders. This only leads to an echo chamber and self radicalization. Maybe if you fucking listened to dissent instead of trying to justified your bull shit, you'd figure out why people hate BLM, people that support police reforms as well. How is it an echo chamber if I'm having the same convo with white supporters And I wouldn't call white supporters dissenters in the first place. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885229806] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders.</quote> This only leads to an echo chamber and self radicalization. Maybe if you fucking listened to dissent instead of trying to justified your bull shit, you'd figure out why people hate BLM, people that support police reforms as well.</quote> How is it an echo chamber if I'm having the same convo with white supporters And I wouldn't call white supporters dissenters in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 08/22/17 9:02:01 AM #44:	It's sad that you can bang your head against the wall trying to explain to liberals that you can't solve racism with racism. Like, liberals in this thread are outright defending racism. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:885229816] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>It's sad that you can bang your head against the wall trying to explain to liberals that you can't solve racism with racism. Like, liberals in this thread are outright defending racism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:03:18 AM #45:	Funkydog posted... All I see it doing it creating more of a divide - invite white people to them actively, make them a part of it. Help them understand things they might not otherwise. Keeping them out will just mean they will continue to not understand/know and perpetuate the "us and them" mentality. This is under the assumption every meeting in BLM has to be about making white people understand. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885229851] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote>All I see it doing it creating more of a divide - invite white people to them actively, make them a part of it. Help them understand things they might not otherwise. Keeping them out will just mean they will continue to not understand/know and perpetuate the "us and them" mentality.</quote> This is under the assumption every meeting in BLM has to be about making white people understand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 08/22/17 9:03:39 AM #46:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... gamepimp12 posted... That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders. This only leads to an echo chamber and self radicalization. Maybe if you fucking listened to dissent instead of trying to justified your bull shit, you'd figure out why people hate BLM, people that support police reforms as well. I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name. They take it to mean that the group think black people matter more than everyone else when I think they're just saying that people act like black lives don't matter at all and they want to change that --- Stay woke. <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:885229864] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote>That's for separate meetings, if I'm having a meeting about shared experiences do you want to spend it explaining it to outsiders.</quote> This only leads to an echo chamber and self radicalization. Maybe if you fucking listened to dissent instead of trying to justified your bull shit, you'd figure out why people hate BLM, people that support police reforms as well.</quote> I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name. They take it to mean that the group think black people matter more than everyone else when I think they're just saying that people act like black lives don't matter at all and they want to change that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 08/22/17 9:04:30 AM #47:	darkjedilink posted... It's sad that you can bang your head against the wall trying to explain to liberals that you can't solve racism with racism. Like, liberals in this thread are outright defending racism. Both sides tho... --- Mains: Xiaoyu/Zafina (Tekken)-Dhalsim (SF)-Jax (MK) Luong/Yamazaki/Joe (KoF) <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:885229893] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It's sad that you can bang your head against the wall trying to explain to liberals that you can't solve racism with racism. Like, liberals in this thread are outright defending racism.</quote> Both sides tho...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth1288 08/22/17 9:07:25 AM #48:	Feline_Heart posted... I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name. Noooo, there's plenty of reasons to hate BLM Here's just a recent example: http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/give-up-the-home-you-own-black-lives-matter-activist-makes-list-of-requests-for-white-people/ --- The person who writes for fools is always sure of a large audience. Friend Code: 2723-9696-7248 <cite>Sephiroth1288 posted [p:885229978] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name.</quote> Noooo, there's plenty of reasons to hate BLM Here's just a recent example: http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/give-up-the-home-you-own-black-lives-matter-activist-makes-list-of-requests-for-white-people/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medz2017 08/22/17 9:07:46 AM #49:	Black Privilege --- Hi <cite>Medz2017 posted [p:885229987] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote>Black Privilege</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 08/22/17 9:09:43 AM #50:	Sephiroth1288 posted... Feline_Heart posted... I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name. Noooo, there's plenty of reasons to hate BLM Here's just a recent example: http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/give-up-the-home-you-own-black-lives-matter-activist-makes-list-of-requests-for-white-people/ Dailycaller --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:885230054] in I don't ge... [t:75696135]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sephiroth1288 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>I don't really know anything about BLM or what they've done, but based on what I've seen it seems like most people hate them solely because of the name.</quote> Noooo, there's plenty of reasons to hate BLM Here's just a recent example: http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/21/give-up-the-home-you-own-black-lives-matter-activist-makes-list-of-requests-for-white-people/</quote> Dailycaller</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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