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Kineth
08/22/17 12:06:46 PM
#205:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
How is an organization supposed to stop crime?

By bringing awareness to it. By educating people.


Oh, are they gonna put some feel good sunshine and lollipops in there along with those worthless platitudes?
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RE_expert44
08/22/17 12:08:06 PM
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Veggeta_MAX
08/22/17 12:08:51 PM
#207:


Kineth posted...
Oh, are they gonna put some feel good sunshine and lollipops in there along with those worthless platitudes?

So turning into an exclusive anti-police group is the resolve?
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--kresnik--
08/22/17 12:09:31 PM
#208:


The Current Events message board, by a landslide majority, votes BLM to be not worth supporting.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/22/17 12:09:34 PM
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That_Happened posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
What would you call stopping someone's ability to leave an area? Technically it's not legal kidnapping because you could get out of the car and leave but no one's gonna leave their car. I don't know a better word for it.


This is beyond stupid, even for CE standards. Holy shit. A better word for it is "being temporarily delayed." Because that's what it is.

You know what it isn't? Fucking kidnapping.


Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".

You can't fucking delay people. You can't temporarily delay people and fuck the cops for not throwing every one of those pieces of crap in jail.

It may not be the definition of legal kidnapping but it's pretty damn similar.
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Kineth
08/22/17 12:15:58 PM
#210:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
Oh, are they gonna put some feel good sunshine and lollipops in there along with those worthless platitudes?

So turning into an exclusive anti-police group is the resolve?


Please don't put words in my mouth and back up your false pretense.
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Kineth
08/22/17 12:17:07 PM
#211:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That_Happened posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
What would you call stopping someone's ability to leave an area? Technically it's not legal kidnapping because you could get out of the car and leave but no one's gonna leave their car. I don't know a better word for it.


This is beyond stupid, even for CE standards. Holy shit. A better word for it is "being temporarily delayed." Because that's what it is.

You know what it isn't? Fucking kidnapping.


Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".


Uh.. why would a cop start off a traffic stop like that? That's what asking for your ID is for.

It may not be the definition of legal kidnapping but it's pretty damn similar.


I'm sure all those children in the sex slave industry would love to have this version of "kidnapping" compared to actual fucking kidnapping where they have no contact with the outside world or their past life.
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--kresnik--
08/22/17 12:19:17 PM
#212:


Haha, Kineth, and you just accused me of melting down?
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Veggeta_MAX
08/22/17 12:20:05 PM
#213:


Kineth posted...
Please don't put words in my mouth and back up your false pretense.

It's not a false pretense. When something is wrong with our society or how things are govern some revolution usually starts to bring things into perspective.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/22/17 12:23:45 PM
#214:


Kineth posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That_Happened posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
What would you call stopping someone's ability to leave an area? Technically it's not legal kidnapping because you could get out of the car and leave but no one's gonna leave their car. I don't know a better word for it.


This is beyond stupid, even for CE standards. Holy shit. A better word for it is "being temporarily delayed." Because that's what it is.

You know what it isn't? Fucking kidnapping.


Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".


Uh.. why would a cop start off a traffic stop like that? That's what asking for your ID is for.

It may not be the definition of legal kidnapping but it's pretty damn similar.


I'm sure all those children in the sex slave industry would love to have this version of "kidnapping" compared to actual fucking kidnapping where they have no contact with the outside world or their past life.


I was actually thinking of a cop starting a conversation on the street.

And taking an extreme doesn't change anything. You're gatekeeping kidnapping lol
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That_Happened
08/22/17 12:25:48 PM
#215:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".


Never had a problem with the police. But if one of them asked me "what's you're name" I'd ask what a "you are name" is.

You can't fucking delay people. You can't temporarily delay people and fuck the cops for not throwing every one of those pieces of crap in jail.


Being that people throughout time have routinely protested by blocking streets, I'd say they can delay people. I don't like it any more than you do, and if they stopped me from getting to work on time I'd be pretty pissed off. But you know what I don't do? I don't go full derp and call it "kidnapping." And I also don't go extreme derp and casually call it "kidnapping" in a conversation, while expecting everyone else to know what the fuck I'm talking about.
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Kineth
08/22/17 12:31:57 PM
#216:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Kineth posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That_Happened posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
What would you call stopping someone's ability to leave an area? Technically it's not legal kidnapping because you could get out of the car and leave but no one's gonna leave their car. I don't know a better word for it.


This is beyond stupid, even for CE standards. Holy shit. A better word for it is "being temporarily delayed." Because that's what it is.

You know what it isn't? Fucking kidnapping.


Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".


Uh.. why would a cop start off a traffic stop like that? That's what asking for your ID is for.

It may not be the definition of legal kidnapping but it's pretty damn similar.


I'm sure all those children in the sex slave industry would love to have this version of "kidnapping" compared to actual fucking kidnapping where they have no contact with the outside world or their past life.


I was actually thinking of a cop starting a conversation on the street.

And taking an extreme doesn't change anything. You're gatekeeping kidnapping lol


Ah, that makes sense and I sorta suspected that, but that's literally calling someone a socially anxious mess.

You've got a lot of nerve to compare it to what is functionally a hostage situation. It's not an extreme to correctly use the term instead of making libelous statements. When someone gets into an accident on the highway, maybe from drunk driving and let's say that it closes all the lanes down, because of it being negligent driving, that could qualify as kidnapping if I'm stuck in traffic for fucking 2 hours because of it.

And that's fucking ludicrous. How much of a baby do you have to be to be like "oh god, people are standing in the road. HELP, I NEED AN ADULT!"
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/22/17 12:32:49 PM
#217:


That_Happened posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".


Never had a problem with the police. But if one of them asked me "what's you're name" I'd ask what a "you are name" is.

You can't fucking delay people. You can't temporarily delay people and fuck the cops for not throwing every one of those pieces of crap in jail.


Being that people throughout time have routinely protested by blocking streets, I'd say they can delay people. I don't like it any more than you do, and if they stopped me from getting to work on time I'd be pretty pissed off. But you know what I don't do? I don't go full derp and call it "kidnapping." And I also don't go extreme derp and casually call it "kidnapping" in a conversation, while expecting everyone else to know what the fuck I'm talking about.


To your first point if it was spoken you wouldn't see my grammatical error.

To the second I have referred to it as kidnapping and people have known what I meant and you're right, I suppose you can do it but it's illegal. I mean a guy in a car could just mow through them but I'd say about 50% of the country would have a problem with that.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/22/17 12:35:51 PM
#218:


Kineth posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Kineth posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
That_Happened posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
What would you call stopping someone's ability to leave an area? Technically it's not legal kidnapping because you could get out of the car and leave but no one's gonna leave their car. I don't know a better word for it.


This is beyond stupid, even for CE standards. Holy shit. A better word for it is "being temporarily delayed." Because that's what it is.

You know what it isn't? Fucking kidnapping.


Bet you're one of those guys that starts screaming am I being detained when a cop says "hi what's you're name".


Uh.. why would a cop start off a traffic stop like that? That's what asking for your ID is for.

It may not be the definition of legal kidnapping but it's pretty damn similar.


I'm sure all those children in the sex slave industry would love to have this version of "kidnapping" compared to actual fucking kidnapping where they have no contact with the outside world or their past life.


I was actually thinking of a cop starting a conversation on the street.

And taking an extreme doesn't change anything. You're gatekeeping kidnapping lol


Ah, that makes sense and I sorta suspected that, but that's literally calling someone a socially anxious mess.

You've got a lot of nerve to compare it to what is functionally a hostage situation. It's not an extreme to correctly use the term instead of making libelous statements. When someone gets into an accident on the highway, maybe from drunk driving and let's say that it closes all the lanes down, because of it being negligent driving, that could qualify as kidnapping if I'm stuck in traffic for fucking 2 hours because of it.

And that's fucking ludicrous. How much of a baby do you have to be to be like "oh god, people are standing in the road. HELP, I NEED AN ADULT!"


Intentionally stopping and accidentally stopping are different things. Can you imagine you're trapped in the back of an ambulance dying because the roads blocked. Or you lose your job because you couldn't make it in. Or you're short food or rent because you missed hours.

If we're gonna give them a pass on taking hostages (good example, it's probably more similar to that than kidnapping) we should give the drivers a pass on mowing through them.
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Kineth
08/22/17 12:38:10 PM
#219:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Intentionally stopping and accidentally stopping are different things. Can you imagine you're trapped in the back of an ambulance dying because the roads blocked. Or you lose your job because you couldn't make it in. Or you're short food or rent because you missed hours.


The only one of those that's a legit counterargument is the life and death situation with the ambulance. If the city was aware of the demonstration beforehand as dispatch would likely have been getting 911 calls about it, the dispatch would give them an alternate route. If your job is on the line based on one late start to your shift, you probably should have not been routinely showing up late to work. If you needed to get the fucking rent check in, why are you waiting til the last fucking minute to do it? And are you really suggesting that people are gonna starve to death in traffic?

Please. The sky is not falling Chicken Little.

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You're a fucking sick disturbed person.
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_Goggalor_
08/22/17 12:38:19 PM
#220:


I agree with the concept, but the execution leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The extremism isn't cool.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/22/17 12:49:18 PM
#221:


Kineth posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Intentionally stopping and accidentally stopping are different things. Can you imagine you're trapped in the back of an ambulance dying because the roads blocked. Or you lose your job because you couldn't make it in. Or you're short food or rent because you missed hours.


The only one of those that's a legit counterargument is the life and death situation with the ambulance. If the city was aware of the demonstration beforehand as dispatch would likely have been getting 911 calls about it, the dispatch would give them an alternate route. If your job is on the line based on one late start to your shift, you probably should have not been routinely showing up late to work. If you needed to get the fucking rent check in, why are you waiting til the last fucking minute to do it? And are you really suggesting that people are gonna starve to death in traffic?

Please. The sky is not falling Chicken Little.

Part of post advocating attempted vehicular homicide


You're a fucking sick disturbed person.


Well I meant living paycheck to pay check and not being able to afford food or rent. And look at you victim blaming in order to justify terrorist actions and condemning those who need medical attention and jobs.

You're a sick and disturbed person.

Someone's right to get a message out trumps all rights other people have in your mind and that's scary.

I also wasn't condoning vehicular manslaughter. I think all these pieces of crap should be thrown in prison and the streets allowed to move freely but if cops aren't gonna do there jobs for fear of backlash I don't think the citizenry should have to be held hostage by a few terrorists and should do what they have to do.
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Dustin1280
08/22/17 4:33:04 PM
#222:


https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/


This is why i cannot get behind blm, because people like her are actually considered "leaders."
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Kineth
08/22/17 4:42:41 PM
#223:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Kineth posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Intentionally stopping and accidentally stopping are different things. Can you imagine you're trapped in the back of an ambulance dying because the roads blocked. Or you lose your job because you couldn't make it in. Or you're short food or rent because you missed hours.


The only one of those that's a legit counterargument is the life and death situation with the ambulance. If the city was aware of the demonstration beforehand as dispatch would likely have been getting 911 calls about it, the dispatch would give them an alternate route. If your job is on the line based on one late start to your shift, you probably should have not been routinely showing up late to work. If you needed to get the fucking rent check in, why are you waiting til the last fucking minute to do it? And are you really suggesting that people are gonna starve to death in traffic?

Please. The sky is not falling Chicken Little.

Part of post advocating attempted vehicular homicide


You're a fucking sick disturbed person.


Well I meant living paycheck to pay check and not being able to afford food or rent. And look at you victim blaming in order to justify terrorist actions and condemning those who need medical attention and jobs.

You're a sick and disturbed person.

Someone's right to get a message out trumps all rights other people have in your mind and that's scary.

I also wasn't condoning vehicular manslaughter. I think all these pieces of crap should be thrown in prison and the streets allowed to move freely but if cops aren't gonna do there jobs for fear of backlash I don't think the citizenry should have to be held hostage by a few terrorists and should do what they have to do.



I hope, for your sake, that you actually aren't this loony.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
08/22/17 4:45:05 PM
#224:


Says the person that thinks having to get to work in time isn't a viable reason for people not to be able to hold you hostage.
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Kineth
08/22/17 4:46:00 PM
#225:


I said if your job is gonna fire you for showing up late one day, you either have a shitty employer or have a track record of showing up late. Is reading really that complicated?
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KingCrabCake
08/22/17 7:37:42 PM
#226:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
The Admiral posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Ppl have no idea what black lives matters even about. Republicans live in their media bubble and spread around memey videos about the 1% of stupid shit that goes on and use it to drum up political support. Admiral, what you are doing IS racist and It's no different than the kind of racist shit you guys over there on the right have been doin for 40 years, exploiting fear and contempt of black people to get white people to vote with you. This poll result makes me sick because it just goes to show how well it works, even fuckin "liberals" like TheVipaGTS fallin for it. Blacks are forever gonna be the untrusted other I guess and theres nothing we can do about it.


Nothing preventing you guys from starting a new movement that excludes the racists/supremacists and doesn't engage in rioting over completely justified police shootings. You can't pin that stupidity on white racism, buddy. BLM is judged this way because its actions and rhetoric warrant it.


Until you admit black people face more police harassment and violence because of racial prejudice, .


No one wants to admit to this lie tho
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KingCrabCake
08/22/17 7:40:08 PM
#227:


Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
How is an organization supposed to stop crime?

By bringing awareness to it. By educating people.

And also by not advocating breaking. The law
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The Admiral
08/22/17 7:48:29 PM
#228:


KingCrabCake posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
How is an organization supposed to stop crime?

By bringing awareness to it. By educating people.

And also by not advocating breaking. The law


Also by encouraging people to comply with law enforcement instructions.
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KingCrabCake
08/22/17 7:58:38 PM
#229:


The Admiral posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
How is an organization supposed to stop crime?

By bringing awareness to it. By educating people.

And also by not advocating breaking. The law


Also by encouraging people to comply with law enforcement instructions.

Or idolize cop killers
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Kineth
08/22/17 11:56:53 PM
#230:


The Admiral posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
How is an organization supposed to stop crime?

By bringing awareness to it. By educating people.

And also by not advocating breaking. The law


Also by encouraging people to comply with law enforcement instructions.


Got anymore to add to this half-assed snarky list of demands that are supposed to end crime? And I would have expected JerseyProud to have the worst post of the responses, but this false narrative shit that Admiral posted is peak-level libel.
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Glass_Phantom
08/22/17 11:58:02 PM
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Guys, it's okay to say black lives matter. They aren't a hate group. They aren't racist. It's all a bunch of right wing hogwash.

Stand beside people who are fighting for equality, and be proud to do it.
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JohnLennon6
08/23/17 12:29:41 AM
#232:


Glass_Phantom posted...
Guys, it's okay to say black lives matter. They aren't a hate group. They aren't racist. It's all a bunch of right wing hogwash.

Stand beside people who are fighting for equality, and be proud to do it.

Black Lives Matter IS a hate group.
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Verdekal
08/23/17 12:33:03 AM
#233:


My problem with BLM is that it's not far from black supremacy which isn't equality.
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KingCrabCake
08/23/17 6:36:03 AM
#234:


Kineth posted...
The Admiral posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Kineth posted...
How is an organization supposed to stop crime?

By bringing awareness to it. By educating people.

And also by not advocating breaking. The law


Also by encouraging people to comply with law enforcement instructions.


Got anymore to add to this half-assed snarky list of demands that are supposed to end crime? And I would have expected JerseyProud to have the worst post of the responses, but this false narrative shit that Admiral posted is peak-level libel.

Dude is obsessed with me
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Roxborough4Ever
08/23/17 7:48:14 AM
#235:


rob a convenience store? point a gun in a cops face? punch out a innocent person for "being white"?

when you do these things, there will be consequences....but BLM thinks the consequences are "racist", thus seeking immunity from the law under the guise of "equality", BLM was born
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Rika_Furude
08/23/17 7:50:50 AM
#236:


BLM was always shit but they became especially shit when they started terrorizing universities, blocking traffic and ambulances with dying children in them, holding no-whites meetings etc
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Roxborough4Ever
08/23/17 7:52:24 AM
#237:


Rika_Furude posted...
BLM was always shit but they became especially shit when they started terrorizing universities, blocking traffic and ambulances with dying children in them, holding no-whites meetings etc


"are you sure that happened? gonna need a source......link, link....its not true without the link"
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Rika_Furude
08/23/17 7:53:02 AM
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JohnLennon6
08/23/17 7:59:08 AM
#239:


Roxborough4Ever posted...
rob a convenience store? point a gun in a cops face? punch out a innocent person for "being white"?

when you do these things, there will be consequences....but BLM thinks the consequences are "racist", thus seeking immunity from the law under the guise of "equality", BLM was born

Don't forget sniping police officers in Texas.
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Roxborough4Ever
08/23/17 8:00:02 AM
#240:


https://youtu.be/IaybrpQ2vxk?t=4m56s

their lives REALLY matter, they MATTER SO much!
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Lorenzo_2003
08/23/17 9:36:22 AM
#241:


I think some people are conflating Black Lives Matter (the group) and the actual lives of black people. Some of the posts here imply that if you don't support the group then you don't support black people. I disagree. My life would be worse without my black friends. They've helped me a lot in different ways, and I like to think they feel the same about me. They never bring up BLM, though. I don't either. No real reason, except that politics just isn't on our minds much when we're working, hanging out or whatever. Maybe we're just too far removed from what's going on in the US. I see BLM on Tv or the Internet only, so their recorded actions and words are all I have to go by.
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faizan_faizan
08/23/17 12:48:59 PM
#242:


Kineth posted...
faizan_faizan posted...
No.

Ilove4chan posted...
JohnLennon6 posted...
Ilove4chan posted...
The Admiral posted...
Ilove4chan posted...
Imagine not supporting the cause of ensuring that all lives are protected. 153 people don't believe that apparently.


So you support All Lives Matter?


All Lives Matter is the racist reaction to black lives matter

Black Lives Matter means that black lives also matter. So good try

Do you also think Blue Lives Matter is racist?


It literally is. Solidarity for police officers that kill black people.

"Every police officer kills black people for no conceivable reason"
This is why I'm not a liberal. Blatant generalisations from both sides.


Is the irony lost on you or something?

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Kineth
08/23/17 3:12:22 PM
#243:


You made a blatant generalization.
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