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hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:12:21 PM
#252:


HashBrownAgain posted...
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Why won't Trump say radical right-wing terrorism?

The same reason the shitstain before couldn't say radical islam.

Is this supposed to be a Trump defense? Because it is a very shitty one.

No, it is calling out Obama for being a fucking pussy.

Obama isn't in the White House anymore. I tend to live in the present.
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Capn Circus
08/19/17 8:13:04 PM
#253:


HashBrownAgain posted...
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Two white supremacists killed a husband and wife because the husband was a sex offender (7/21/2013) Jonesville, South Carolina (2 deaths)

How does that count if they killed him for being a sex offender?


A lot of these supposed white supremacy crimes or "right wing extremism crimes" aren't even carried out due to their ideology, as Amonitida pointed out earlier.

Fake news just likes to muddy the water.
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HashBrownAgain
08/19/17 8:13:21 PM
#254:


hockeybub89 posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Why won't Trump say radical right-wing terrorism?

The same reason the shitstain before couldn't say radical islam.

Is this supposed to be a Trump defense? Because it is a very shitty one.

No, it is calling out Obama for being a fucking pussy.

Obama isn't in the White House anymore. I tend to live in the present.

Those that forget the past tend to repeat it.
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DarthAragorn
08/19/17 8:14:19 PM
#255:


-Gavirulax- posted...
HashBrownAgain posted...
-Gavirulax- posted...
Two white supremacists killed a husband and wife because the husband was a sex offender (7/21/2013) Jonesville, South Carolina (2 deaths)

How does that count if they killed him for being a sex offender?


*Shrugs* I dunno, it comes from that study someone linked to lol.

Not sure how antigovernment equals white supremacist either
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Ammonitida
08/19/17 8:16:08 PM
#256:


I'll just play devil's advocate here...this comes from the above link someone gave me and I don't know how accurate it is.

Two white supremacists killed a husband and wife because the husband was a sex offender (7/21/2013) Jonesville, South Carolina (2 deaths)

Anti-government extremist kills Transportation Security Administration officer at Los Angeles International Airport (11/1/2013) Los Angeles, California (1 death)

White supremacist shot and killed 2 at a Jewish Community Center (4/13/2014) Overland Park Kansas (2 deaths)

Same perpetrator as previous attack in Overland Park; perpetrator murdered another person at a Jewish retirement center later the same day (4/13/2014) Leawood, Kansas (1 death)

Anti-government married couple killed 2 officers during shooting rampage on Las Vegas strip (6/8/2014) Las Vegas, Nevada (2 deaths)

Same perpetrators as previous attack in Las Vegas; perpetrators murdered another person later the same day (6/8/2014) Las Vegas, Nevada (1 death)

Anti-government extremist Eric Frein murdered a state trooper. (9/12/2014) White Haven Pennsylvania (1 death)

White supremacist Dylann Roof shot and killed 9 African Americans in a shooting at an African American church in Charleston, SC (6/17/2015) Charleston, South Carolina (9 deaths)

Right wing extremist opened fire and killed 2 young women among patrons during an Amy Schumer movie (7/23/2015) Lafayette, Louisiana (2 deaths)

White supremacist shot and killed 9 at his community college (10/1/2015) Roseburg, Oregon (9 deaths)

Anti-government survivalist extremist killed 3 at Planned Parenthood clinic including a responding police officer (11/27/2015) Colorado Springs, Colorado(3 deaths)


There's no evidence the Oregon shooting was carried out by a white supremacist. He was black for one.

The Las Vegas attack was carried out by formerly right wing types, who later became left-wing types (which is why they left the Bundy ranch). They were pro-illegal immigration and likened their victims (cops) to "Nazis". Wouldn't that be left-wing?

Anyway, you can't match the Jihadists death toll, but that's only because of 9/11 and fluke 49 deaths at Pulse.
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hockeybub89
08/19/17 8:18:16 PM
#258:


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It's such a problem and causes so many deaths and injuries yet you can't even name a few like I did. And those were just "radical right wing" inspired attacks or "White Supremacist" vs Radical Islam. I didn't even name any violent leftists or the 5 officers killed in Dallas last year.

I am sorry statistics are inconvenient to you. You're a great example of how the average American is just woefully ignorant about terrorism. I don't blame you. No one talks about it. We're so busy focusing on people from far away that we don't even give a second look at our neighbor's terror plot. I mean, hell, domestic terrorism isn't even an actual crime you can be convicted of in America and only foreign groups are considered legitimate terror groups by the government.
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Ammonitida
08/19/17 8:21:29 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Wouldn't that be left-wing?


lol like I said, I dunno, though you definitely seem to be right, that "study" is vacuous.


It also included a convert to Islam who killed his stepdad IIRC. It's listed as a Jihadist attack. No more details. I've tried locating the source but no luck.
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The Deadpool
08/19/17 8:25:47 PM
#260:


Capn Circus posted...
Fake news just likes to muddy the water.


That link wasn't from a news site...
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Capn Circus
08/19/17 8:27:06 PM
#261:


hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
It's such a problem and causes so many deaths and injuries yet you can't even name a few like I did. And those were just "radical right wing" inspired attacks or "White Supremacist" vs Radical Islam. I didn't even name any violent leftists or the 5 officers killed in Dallas last year.

I am sorry statistics are inconvenient to you. You're a great example of how the average American is just woefully ignorant about terrorism. I don't blame you. No one talks about it. We're so busy focusing on people from far away that we don't even give a second look at our neighbor's terror plot. I mean, hell, domestic terrorism isn't even an actual crime you can be convicted of in America and only foreign groups are considered legitimate terror groups by the government.


You literally aren't even naming one example. How embarrassing.
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Delirious_Beard
08/19/17 8:27:31 PM
#262:


stop fucking responding to capn circus
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Capn Circus
08/19/17 8:28:07 PM
#263:


Delirious_Beard posted...
stop fucking responding to capn circus


Maybe you can name some examples?
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Ammonitida
08/19/17 8:30:45 PM
#264:


Capn Circus posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
It's such a problem and causes so many deaths and injuries yet you can't even name a few like I did. And those were just "radical right wing" inspired attacks or "White Supremacist" vs Radical Islam. I didn't even name any violent leftists or the 5 officers killed in Dallas last year.

I am sorry statistics are inconvenient to you. You're a great example of how the average American is just woefully ignorant about terrorism. I don't blame you. No one talks about it. We're so busy focusing on people from far away that we don't even give a second look at our neighbor's terror plot. I mean, hell, domestic terrorism isn't even an actual crime you can be convicted of in America and only foreign groups are considered legitimate terror groups by the government.


You literally aren't even naming one example. How embarrassing.


The Sikh Temple shooting carried out by a Neo-Nazi, killing 7.
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KingCrabCake
08/19/17 9:16:43 PM
#265:


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What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate
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ScazarMeltex
08/19/17 10:59:27 PM
#266:


KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.
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Bloodychess
08/19/17 11:00:26 PM
#267:


ScazarMeltex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.


Oh wow, congrats. Antifa finally found a group that makes them look like the lesser evil.

A round of applause!
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YourAlt
08/19/17 11:08:57 PM
#268:


Bloodychess posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.


Oh wow, congrats. Antifa finally found a group that makes them look like the lesser evil.

A round of applause!


There is nothing evil about antifa.
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Bloodychess
08/19/17 11:10:01 PM
#269:


YourAlt posted...
Bloodychess posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.


Oh wow, congrats. Antifa finally found a group that makes them look like the lesser evil.

A round of applause!


There is nothing evil about antifa.


Like all things that look great on paper, there's plenty of followers that muddy the message
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Skasa
08/19/17 11:10:38 PM
#270:


I went to a rally and it was civil but, those goddamned Antifa had to ruin it. The first amendment says we have a fucking right to protest, to assemble, to say what we fucking want. Antifa are fascists who hate America. We actually care about America and that's sad that neo-nazis and the KKK are the only ones fighting for America anymore.
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Ruvan22
08/20/17 12:05:42 AM
#271:


Skasa posted...
I went to a rally and it was civil but, those goddamned Antifa had to ruin it. The first amendment says we have a fucking right to protest, to assemble, to say what we fucking want. Antifa are fascists who hate America. We actually care about America and that's sad that neo-nazis and the KKK are the only ones fighting for America anymore.


How exactly are you fighting for America?
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The Admiral
08/20/17 12:06:42 AM
#272:


Skasa posted...
I went to a rally and it was civil but, those goddamned Antifa had to ruin it. The first amendment says we have a fucking right to protest, to assemble, to say what we fucking want. Antifa are fascists who hate America. We actually care about America and that's sad that neo-nazis and the KKK are the only ones fighting for America anymore.


Jesus fucking Christ
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thronedfire2
08/20/17 12:06:44 AM
#273:


I'm just waiting for hempfest. Boston common has the good kinda rally that weekend

Plus it's the same weekend as the phantom gourmet food festival. I'm gonna eat so much
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TheMikh
08/20/17 12:09:41 AM
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To my understanding, the rally was in no way "White Supremacist" but genuinely in advocacy of free speech, albeit attended largely by light-leaking types, like its precursors. The timing was just really bad, and allowed for the entire media to frame it and its attendees in a less than stellar light.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHo3siYUQAAp1Sm.jpg
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Delirious_Beard
08/20/17 2:15:53 AM
#275:


Skasa posted...
I went to a rally and it was civil but, those goddamned Antifa had to ruin it. The first amendment says we have a fucking right to protest, to assemble, to say what we fucking want. Antifa are fascists who hate America. We actually care about America and that's sad that neo-nazis and the KKK are the only ones fighting for America anymore.


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Life Sympathy
08/20/17 2:18:43 AM
#276:


Skasa posted...
I went to a rally and it was civil but, those goddamned Antifa had to ruin it. The first amendment says we have a fucking right to protest, to assemble, to say what we fucking want. Antifa are fascists who hate America. We actually care about America and that's sad that neo-nazis and the KKK are the only ones fighting for America anymore.

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Schwarber
08/20/17 2:40:31 AM
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 8:51:51 AM
#278:


@ScazarMeltex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.

No they fucking dont. Maybe you should try again
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KingCrabCake
08/20/17 8:52:54 AM
#279:


YourAlt posted...
Bloodychess posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.


Oh wow, congrats. Antifa finally found a group that makes them look like the lesser evil.

A round of applause!


There is nothing evil about antifa.


Except everything about them. Theyre as bad as the groups they hate ....if not worse
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Ammonitida
08/20/17 11:04:10 AM
#280:


Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752
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Bio1590
08/20/17 11:51:50 AM
#281:


Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752

Chanting that is dumb but they're not necessarily wrong. Remember the FBI has been investigating the infiltration of LEAs by white supremacists for years.
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Ammonitida
08/20/17 11:55:08 AM
#282:


Bio1590 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752

Chanting that is dumb but they're not necessarily wrong. Remember the FBI has been investigating the infiltration of LEAs by white supremacists for years.


http://www.swacj.org/swjcj/archives/7.2/Klahm%20and%20Tillyer%20Article%20(5).pdf

It's disgusting, wrong and racist.
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Bio1590
08/20/17 12:07:59 PM
#283:


Ammonitida posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752

Chanting that is dumb but they're not necessarily wrong. Remember the FBI has been investigating the infiltration of LEAs by white supremacists for years.


http://www.swacj.org/swjcj/archives/7.2/Klahm%20and%20Tillyer%20Article%20(5).pdf

It's disgusting, wrong and racist.

You are citing one specific study on one specific aspect of police work.

The fact of the matter is the FBI found enough instances to say "You know what guys, we could actually have a problem here" and started tracking it and coming up with policies regarding dealing with it.
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The Admiral
08/20/17 12:17:54 PM
#284:


Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752


These Antifa clowns are made up of Communists and anarchists. They're literally no better than the white supremacists.
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YourAlt
08/20/17 12:27:10 PM
#285:


KingCrabCake posted...
@ScazarMeltex posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
What does that have to do with the comparison you made? You laughed at calling those with swastika flags Nazis when they call themselves Nazis. What point were you trying to make there? I never said all white supremacists are Nazis. But the ones who parade swastikas and literally call themselves Nazis? Yea they're probably Nazis.


Bro youre bias af you refuse to admit that antifa is as terrible as the people they hate


Antifa has a body count of zero. Try again.

No they fucking dont. Maybe you should try again


Yes they do. Source that Antifa are responsible for a death?
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YourAlt
08/20/17 12:28:47 PM
#286:


The Admiral posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752


These Antifa clowns are made up of Communists and anarchists. They're literally no better than the white supremacists.


You are calling a group, who is anti-racist and responsible for exactly zero deaths, no better than a group that is only about racism, that is responsible for many deaths.

Lol
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The Admiral
08/20/17 12:42:25 PM
#287:


YourAlt posted...
The Admiral posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752


These Antifa clowns are made up of Communists and anarchists. They're literally no better than the white supremacists.


You are calling a group, who is anti-racist and responsible for exactly zero deaths, no better than a group that is only about racism, that is responsible for many deaths.

Lol


If we use your logic of including the death count from the WW2 Nazis in defending actions against the neo-Nazis, then I expect you to be intellectually consistent and factor in the 97 million deaths caused by Communism when you discuss Antifa.

Literally. No. Better.
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TheBiggerWiggle
08/20/17 12:44:49 PM
#288:


Heh. My post got deleted. I guess dead nazis is too controversial for gamefaqs lmao
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YourAlt
08/20/17 12:47:02 PM
#289:


The Admiral posted...
YourAlt posted...
The Admiral posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Protestors embarrassing themselves.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/899114418939850752


These Antifa clowns are made up of Communists and anarchists. They're literally no better than the white supremacists.


You are calling a group, who is anti-racist and responsible for exactly zero deaths, no better than a group that is only about racism, that is responsible for many deaths.

Lol


If we use your logic of including the death count from the WW2 Nazis in defending actions against the neo-Nazis, then I expect you to be intellectually consistent and factor in the 97 million deaths caused by Communism when you discuss Antifa.

Literally. No. Better.


Lol, watching Admiral do a cartwheel is funny.

You are wrong. Antifa, #1, is anarchist.

Boom, point imploded.
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Ammonitida
08/20/17 3:28:37 PM
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To be fair, the ADL and CNN denied that this was a Neo-Nazi rally before it started.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/20/boston-free-speech-rally-falsely-branded-as-white-supremacist/

She added that the Boston rally shows that “the Left will now brand every right-wing gathering as a Nazi rally. They even labeled the march against google as a white supremacist march. We are screwed if we let them keep this false narrative up.”
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hockeybub89
08/20/17 3:31:39 PM
#292:


Imagine equating an economic policy to a white supremacypolicy. Communist leaders have killed more people, sure. Communism will never work, sure. But that still doesn't make the bad economic policy inherently hateful and genocidal.

There is not even a fantasy scenario where white supremacy works out as anything resembling not evil.
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