Current Events > GOP in six states have introduced bills legalizing running over protesters

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What kind of dumbass gets in front of a car anyway.

Lordsai posted...

What kind of dumbass gets in front of a car anyway.

What kind of dumbass sees a group of people and then slams on the gas?

Oh, that's right. Islamic terrorists

And Neo Nazis
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Bio1590 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.

Dude you can't just run over someone if they're standing in the middle of the road. What the fuck?

You're not running over someone, you're just normally driving the vehicle forward. If someone doesn't get out of the way, it's their fault.

I'm not advocating going full speed through people obviously, just that if it ends up looking like this, I don't really feel any sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdctnPIR5kA

Lordsai posted...

What kind of dumbass gets in front of a car anyway.

You know what kind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtBBo2_FmC0
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.

Dude you can't just run over someone if they're standing in the middle of the road. What the fuck?

You're not running over someone, you're just normally driving the vehicle forward. If someone doesn't get out of the way, it's their fault.

I'm not advocating going full speed through people obviously, just that if it ends up looking like this, I don't really feel any sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdctnPIR5kA

"I'm just moving this knife back and forth, it's you're fault that your in the way"
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.

Dude you can't just run over someone if they're standing in the middle of the road. What the f***?

You're not running over someone, you're just normally driving the vehicle forward. If someone doesn't get out of the way, it's their fault.

I'm not advocating going full speed through people obviously, just that if it ends up looking like this, I don't really feel any sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdctnPIR5kA

That shit doesn't fly with any other group of people standing in the road outside of a protest. Not sure why a protest is treated as some sort of bubble where suddenly its perfectly OK to inch towards a crowd of people and make it their fault when you run them over.
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Now, I've never been in this situation, but couldn't you just slowly drive through them? You're in a vehicle, they're not going to be able to stop you. Just keep inching forward. Unless someone crawled under your car, it doesn't seem likely to hurt anyone.
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shnangyboos posted...

Now, I've never been in this situation, but couldn't you just slowly drive through them? You're in a vehicle, they're not going to be able to stop you. Just keep inching forward. Unless someone crawled under your car, it doesn't seem likely to hurt anyone.

a rational reading of the law would conclude that is the only reasonable time when it should apply

but unfortunately posts like mal's--which normalize not slowing down at all for road-blocking protests--reflect the possibility that it may be very difficult to prove a driver was trying not to hit the protesters

it changes the nature of vehicular manslaughter trials in a way that makes protesters who make the (unwise) decision to block roads fundamentally unsafe. it may empower people who actively want to hurt these protesters, something no law should ever do.

and while we can all say "I guess they should know better!" policy that is likely to increase the violent death rate should be seen as universally bad.
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Mal_Fet posted...

Lordsai posted...

What kind of dumbass gets in front of a car anyway.

You know what kind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtBBo2_FmC0

How about we grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants, and in return we deport every antifa member and neo nazi to mexico.
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The week after a neo Nazi kills a protester with his car?

Seriously?
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The Deadpool posted...

The week after a neo Nazi kills a protester with his car?

Seriously?

No, these were put forth months ago
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.

Dude you can't just run over someone if they're standing in the middle of the road. What the f***?

You're not running over someone, you're just normally driving the vehicle forward. If someone doesn't get out of the way, it's their fault.

I'm not advocating going full speed through people obviously, just that if it ends up looking like this, I don't really feel any sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdctnPIR5kA

That shit doesn't fly with any other group of people standing in the road outside of a protest. Not sure why a protest is treated as some sort of bubble where suddenly its perfectly OK to inch towards a crowd of people and make it their fault when you run them over.

It's perfectly ok to drive on the road. I don't see why a protest is treated as some sort of bubble where suddenly it's perfectly ok to block the road and to make cars wait.

Darklit_Minuet posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I'm a lib but I'm all in favour of this. Anyone should be able to protest however they want, but if you refuse to get out of someone's way they should be able to keep driving. If you refuse to get out of the way it's not their fault.

Dude you can't just run over someone if they're standing in the middle of the road. What the f***?

You're not running over someone, you're just normally driving the vehicle forward. If someone doesn't get out of the way, it's their fault.

I'm not advocating going full speed through people obviously, just that if it ends up looking like this, I don't really feel any sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdctnPIR5kA

That shit doesn't fly with any other group of people standing in the road outside of a protest. Not sure why a protest is treated as some sort of bubble where suddenly its perfectly OK to inch towards a crowd of people and make it their fault when you run them over.

It's perfectly ok to drive on the road. I don't see why a protest is treated as some sort of bubble where suddenly it's perfectly ok to block the road and to make cars wait.

It's not, but they literally tell you in Driver's Ed that it doesn't matter. If there's people on the road and you can not hit them, you are legally required to not hit them. You absolutely cannot run over people "just because".
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So much for the non-violent right
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People are literally advocating to be able to kill others because they inconvince them.
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Bio1590 posted...

It's not, but they literally tell you in Driver's Ed that it doesn't matter. If there's people on the road and you can not hit them, you are legally required to not hit them. You absolutely cannot run over people "just because".

This is the key. In theory, these bills would not prevent this, but in practice, they introduce a very high new burden of proof on the prosecution for the drivers in automobile accidents that kill protesters.

I would not be as concerned if it were a general bill about such accidents, but the specific call-out to street protesters is sending an intentional message: "We will not protect you"
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Bio1590 posted...

It's not, but they literally tell you in Driver's Ed that it doesn't matter. If there's people on the road and you can not hit them, you are legally required to not hit them. You absolutely cannot run over people "just because".

The intention is not to run them over, the intention is to get to your destination. They are the ones not getting out of the way.

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Bio1590 posted...

It's not, but they literally tell you in Driver's Ed that it doesn't matter. If there's people on the road and you can not hit them, you are legally required to not hit them. You absolutely cannot run over people "just because".

The intention is not to run them over, the intention is to get to your destination. They are the ones not getting out of the way.

Do protests exist in some sort of traffic law bubble?
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So what I'm taking from this topic is that conservatives will cry violence about a nazi getting punched in the face, but cheer for nazis running over people protesting nazis.

I don't like people blocking traffic either, but if you find it so easy to reconcile killing people because you have places to be? you're a terrible human being, and exactly the kind of person who probably deserves a little roughing up.
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charey posted...

People are literally advocating to be able to kill others because they inconvince them.

Most of them are pro life conservatives too
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Twinmold posted...

So what I'm taking from this topic is that conservatives will cry violence about a nazi getting punched in the face, but cheer for nazis running over people protesting nazis.

I don't like people blocking traffic either, but if you find it so easy to reconcile killing people because you have places to be? you're a terrible human being, and exactly the kind of person who probably deserves a little roughing up.

You're not killing people. You're driving forward at a slow pace. They're killing themselves by standing in the way of the vehicle. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

Samurontai posted...

charey posted...

People are literally advocating to be able to kill others because they inconvince them.

Most of them are pro life conservatives too

They only care about people that arent born yet once you are born fuck you
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Twinmold posted...

So what I'm taking from this topic is that conservatives will cry violence about a nazi getting punched in the face, but cheer for nazis running over people protesting nazis.

I don't like people blocking traffic either, but if you find it so easy to reconcile killing people because you have places to be? you're a terrible human being, and exactly the kind of person who probably deserves a little roughing up.

You're not killing people. You're driving forward at a slow pace, and then slamming in the gas once you see a large group of people. They're killing themselves by standing in thE way of the vehicle. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

You left out the extremely crucial piece of information in regards to a large majority of these incidents
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CADE FOSTER posted...

Samurontai posted...

charey posted...

People are literally advocating to be able to kill others because they inconvince them.

Most of them are pro life conservatives too

They only care about people that arent born yet once you are born fuck you

Pretty much
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

You're not killing people. You're driving forward at a slow pace. They're killing themselves by standing in the way of the vehicle. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

because legally a driver is always the responsible party

if you run over someone who's jaywalking you're still liable
if you run over someone who's protesting in the streets you're still liable

in fact this legislation doesn't even protect you from that in theory

jesus christ please stay off the roads
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Darkman124 posted...

jesus christ please stay off the roads

Also the gene pool while you are at it
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Darkman124 posted...

because legally a driver is always the responsible party

if you run over someone who's jaywalking you're still liable
if you run over someone who's protesting in the streets you're still liable

in fact this legislation doesn't even protect you from that in theory

jesus christ please stay off the roads

Yeah, I seriously don't understand how hard this is to grasp. If you're driving through and there's a crowd of people in the road, or if someone is jay walking, it's not suddenly legal to run them over just because they were in the way, assuming you had reasonable time to stop. Now if people start violently beating on your car and you flee then there could be an argument made for self defense(although even that's arguable as self defense usually can't be excessive, but I digress), but that's not what's happening here.

Feels like people just want a reason to be able to run over protesters, tbh.
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Blocking roads is not peacefully protesting.

Maybe people should start using common sense and realize that roads are for cars, not for play.
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I'm in favor of this simply because of the shit that the protesters did in my hometown (Charlotte) last year. Lest you forget this;


Which lead to

and

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Capn Circus posted...

Blocking roads is not peacefully protesting.

Maybe people should start using common sense and realize that roads are for cars, not for play.

And people blocking roads should be arrested or dispersed by the cops, and, shockingly enough, they usually are. That's the proper and adult way to handle the situation, not run people down because they are pissing you off. That makes you a psychopath
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devilminion posted...

I'm in favor of this simply because of the shit that the protesters did in my hometown (Charlotte) last year. Lest you forget this;


Which lead to

and

Im in favor of being able to shoot literally anybodythat I see who has a gun, because of the constant murders that happen around this country and even around where I live that involve firearms

I'm obviously being sarcastic, but you can probably see why your argument is just an emotionally driven slippery slope
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CE is full of absolute sociopaths holy shit
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Bio1590 posted...

CE is full of absolute sociopaths holy shit

You mean like Samurai?
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JohnLennon6 posted...

Bio1590 posted...

CE is full of absolute sociopaths holy shit

You mean like Samurai?

I'm worried for your brain if its thought patterns made you think that was a good post.
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So what are you supposed to do when protesters are blocking the road and will not allow you to pass under any circumstances? Just pray it's safe to get out and abandon your vehicle like "Well, that's gone forever."

Because they WILL fuck your shit up. Smashing windows, beating the hell out of the vehicle in general with blunt objects.. probably even setting it on fire.

These people are a bunch of savages. Peaceful protesting isn't even a thing anymore.
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running people down is the answer some people
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Not run them over?

I don't understand how this is such a difficult concept. Like legit you're all just wanting an excuse to run people over that you disagree with.
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If you can run people over they should be able to shoot you legally
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Like legit you're all just wanting an excuse to run people over that you disagree with.

Bitter manchild with revenge fantasies describes like 40% of GameFAQs.
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Nah man, just remain stationary amidst an angry mob and you'll be perfectly safe.

Just ask Reginald Denny how well it worked out.
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VectorChaos posted...

Nah man, just remain stationary amidst an angry mob and you'll be perfectly safe.

Just ask Reginald Denny how well it worked out.

aslong as they can shoot at you its fair game
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Oh, we're trying to pretend motor vehicle homicide is being legalized?

Whatever it takes to prop up that narrative I guess.
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So the only option is to just abandon your 20k+ car to become scrap metal? This is literally what you would do? Gotcha.

Or option two, just sit there in the car with your thumb up your ass for twelve hours and hope they eventually disperse. Who gives a shit if you have a job to go to or kids to look after. Better hope you have great insurance that will cover protesters destroying every inch of your vehicle while you're at it.

I understand that you have no right to literally run someone over, but you should still be able to defend yourself and your property to a certain extent.

If someone breaks into your house and you ask them politely to leave, should you just stand by and let them have their way with you/your possessions when they blatantly refuse to do so? They have no right to be there, just like protesters have no right to shut down entire roadways.
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Did you really just compare someone breakig into your house to a bunch of people standing on a roadway?

Looooooooool
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None of you people drive, right? Please don't live in the bay area.
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Bio1590 posted...

Did you really just compare someone breakig into your house to a bunch of people standing on a roadway?

Looooooooool

As soon as they are intentionally preventing you from physically getting from point A to point B, they are a threat to your personal well-being and should be treated as such. Especially since you are virtually guaranteed to have people swarming your vehicle like angry locusts and beating on it to prove some kind of point.

If they smash your windows and start trying to drag you out of the vehicle, just let them? Just throw your car to the wolves and pray you can run out of there fast enough to avoid a beating?
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I fucking hate the republican party
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By law you aren't allowed to restrain people against their will, physically obstruct them or otherwise prevent them from living their lives. Why does this change when the person in question is inside a motorized vehicle?

This isn't a traffic jam or a street that has been legally shut down for the purposes of construction or a festival or whatever. These are violent mobs that are literally preventing you from simply going about your day and putting your property and physical well-being in danger because they can't differentiate between your average citizen and those who "wronged" them.
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Poe's Law has CE by the balls.
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Fair, next!