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Caution999 posted...

Ok, but how is not aiming harder?

It wasn't, it was just not fun.
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boxington posted...

Grand Theft Auto 4.

it'd easily be one of my favorite games if it had tighter controls.

This is the reason why I couldn't play the game either. Such a shame too.

I'll throw Too Human out there. I couldn't get into the combat controls at all. I'm pretty sure I would've enjoyed the game a decent amount if they would've went with a traditional control scheme.
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The one true best answer:

Okami for the Wii

They did the genius thing of letting you draw with the wiimote and yet.... they forced combat controls to use freaking waggle and shit. So stupid.
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Illuminoius posted...

-kirby air ride's extremely simplified control scheme really ruins copy abilities and makes the game feel even more shallow than it is

Iunno, maybe it's my rose-tinted glasses for that game but I thought the control scheme worked. For the overall driving, it really doesn't need anything else. Mapping the copy abilities to A as well forces you to be considerate of when you use them, since their main function is stopping someone else. (the damage seemed irrelevant most of the time, outside of Destruction Derby)
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fucking deadly premonition @Romulox28 @Two_Dee

LordFarquad1312 posted...

DKC Returns. Plays so much better on 3DS. No reason to ever play the Wii version.

also this
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drunkmuggle posted...

fucking deadly premonition @Romulox28 @Two_Dee

i forgot how terrible that game played lol
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Romulox28 posted...

drunkmuggle posted...

fucking deadly premonition @Romulox28 @Two_Dee

i forgot how terrible that game played lol

it feels like it actively tries to be work rather than a game, this is what happens when the gameplay is an after thought

I am trying so hard to finish it but each time I play I get turned off by the fact that the controls are terrible and I also don't know how to make time go faster
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Goldeneye
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I haven't actually played it but croc being a 3D platformer with tank controls sounds hilariously bad

https://youtu.be/-i3fLXFKi4o?t=9146
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Starfox Zero.

I appreciate they were trying to do something different to keep it fresh, but it was entirely unnecessary and now we might not ever get another Starfox game. All the other changes were fine like new vehicles and modes, but the controls just put a wall in front of the game that very few people wanted to get over.
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FightingGames posted...

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apocalyptic_4 posted...

Killzone 2

Sony fanboys wouldn't admit that game had horrid controls

What didn't you like about them?

joystick acceleration and slow ass sensitivity

And it felt clunky af. There was a large deadspace in the joystick for aiming and shifting your view quick was impossible. Back then people argued furiously that it was "realistic"

It was not.
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Arcanine2009 posted...

spirit tracks (god damn the flute blowing in the mic is the worst gimmick ever)

Makes it unplayable in the car, too, since cars make noise and the DS picks that up, so you can't skip notes
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Rexdragon125 posted...

Mario 64
Monster Hunter
Bloodborne
3D games have been mainstream for 20 years and no one can figure out how to program a camera

Anything with the top down wannabe RTS click to walk. It's slow, better hope you don't accidentally click on an enemy you didn't want to attack. I'd rather use a thumb stick.

Which monster hunter?
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Super Metroid
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Clock Tower 3(I think) IIRC had some pretty horrible controls
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apocalyptic_4 posted...

Rexdragon125 posted...

Mario 64
Monster Hunter
Bloodborne
3D games have been mainstream for 20 years and no one can figure out how to program a camera

Anything with the top down wannabe RTS click to walk. It's slow, better hope you don't accidentally click on an enemy you didn't want to attack. I'd rather use a thumb stick.

Which monster hunter?

Bloodborne? Is this a joke?
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Just Cause 3
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VectorChaos posted...

****TRIGGER WARNING****
Fuck yo' nostalgia goggles edition

Everything on the N64 because of that atrocity of a controller.

N64's controller was fine.
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There are zero camera problems in Bloodborne.
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the n64 controller looked dumb as hell and the d-pad was useless, but it was far from the worst controller
it's not as bad as the dreamcast controller, which is just awful

Croc
Tomb Raider and TR2
Duke Nukem: A Time to Kill
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Rascal(PS1)

That game was a double dose of a really crappy camera and the controls were shit.
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I can see the mic argument in the car/train but other than that I've never understood the vitriol for the PH/ST control scheme. It was pretty straight forward and responsive. More so that the waggle/sword play of the Wii Zelda games. I feel like so many people went into it expecting to hate the controls so that they resisted every giving them a fair shot.
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shadow of the colossus

MACisBack posted...

Rascal(PS1)

That game was a double dose of a really crappy camera and the controls were shit.

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE REMEMBERS RASCAL

The first two Onimusha games
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A5modeu5 posted...

Kid icarus uprising

That was my first thought when entering this topic, but honestly, the controls definitely didn't ruin the game. At worst, it was just awkward.
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Teen Girl Squad posted...

I can see the mic argument in the car/train but other than that I've never understood the vitriol for the PH/ST control scheme. It was pretty straight forward and responsive. More so that the waggle/sword play of the Wii Zelda games. I feel like so many people went into it expecting to hate the controls so that they resisted every giving them a fair shot.

Even sitting at home, a game shouldn't test your breathing habits when the target demographic might not exercise.
The touch screen stuff was fine though, which means PH was great. ST required the flute often, and controlling the train was lame as well.

Spirit Tracks

Lets take the worst part of Wind Waker, put it on rails, and only let you turn if you react quick enough at an intersection after being bored to sleep by literately being railroaded.

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The Witcher. I can't play it at all with how shitty the combat system is. Barely an input at all.

Diablo 3. Fucking 6 abilities at once? Fuck off, casuals.

Honorable mention to GTAV / Online. Lots of shitty console holdovers, too many menus to slog through without macros, and shit like forced mousewheel / cycling weapons in vehicles. Not unplayable, just annoying.
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the motion controls in the wii wario ware game really limited the minigames and made the game feel really clunky
it's just nowhere near as intuitive as pressing a button or tapping something to make it react, and the fact that they have to tell you what position to hold the wiimote in before the minigame even starts is proof that even the devs recognized an inherent flaw with the motion control setup
why the fuck can't wario ware be a series of fun minigames that actually use the d-pad and buttons, again?

Anything on consoles with just a single analog stick
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As long as no-one mentions Super Metroid, we're good. They certainly aren't perfect and are improved on in later games, but they're still alright for the most part.

Oh, and despite being my favorite game, Deus Ex's default (PC) controls are awful, although they're fully customizable. Semi-colon for reload, F12 for the flashlight (which uses a lot of bioelectric energy), etc.

Kid Icarus and Monster Hunter 3DS series.
Fuck new content, I'm getting MH World solely for proper controls, the new ish is just a hefty bonus.
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Witcher 2's combat was horrendous

luigi13579 posted...

As long as no-one mentions Super Metroid, we're good. They certainly aren't perfect and are improved on in later games, but they're still alright for the most part.

Oh, and despite being my favorite game, Deus Ex's default (PC) controls are awful, although they're fully customizable. Semi-colon for reload, F12 for the flashlight (which uses a lot of bioelectric energy), etc.

My only problem with Super Metroid is switching through weapons with select is a pain in the butt. Having missiles mapped to R like in Fusion and Zero Mission is so fantastic. But, in Super Metroid it's a minor gripe.
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Someone mentioned Super Metroid earlier lol. I mostly hated wall jumping but found the controls acceptable.

For Monster Hunter, I mostly found Freedom Unite awkward but the DS games were still a bit clunky at first.
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Max Payne (PS2)
Mario 64
Donkey Kong 64
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Sounds the only joy stick y'all can handle is your own tbh

Half of the games mentioned aren't even bad.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

Skyward Sword. The controls are not bad, but the emphasis on getting them right lead to the rest of the game to be uninteresting and underdeveloped.

I think its the only good motion controlled game ive ever played
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Def Kid Icarus and portable Monster Hunter games. Cant play any of that shit for more than 20-30 minutes at a time unless you blow money on a cpp. Sucks because they're otherwise awesome games.
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Witcher games, all 3 of them
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luigi13579 posted...

As long as no-one mentions Super Metroid, we're good. They certainly aren't perfect and are improved on in later games, but they're still alright for the most part.

Oh, and despite being my favorite game, Deus Ex's default (PC) controls are awful, although they're fully customizable. Semi-colon for reload, F12 for the flashlight (which uses a lot of bioelectric energy), etc.

the super metroid controls are a little clunky honestly but it is still alright. deus ex definitely has some shit controls though, still one of the best games I've played
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VectorChaos posted...

Everything on the N64 because of that atrocity of a controller.

This, but especially Goldeneye 64
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Startropics
Hard Drivin' (DOS version is unplayable with a key board)
Perfect Weapon (Granted the camera is also crap)
Death by Degrees
NInja Gaiden: Dragon Sword
Glover
Batman: Return of the Joker (GB version)
Action 52
Alien Carnage
Vortex
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
O.D.T. Escape or Die Trying (they tried to make a TR like game with a sword-and-sorcery game, and they failed miserably. Such a shame since it has potential)
Batman Forever (They should have incorporated a scheme like Prince of Persia with an exploration mode and combat mode)
Dark Castle

MACisBack posted...

Rascal(PS1)

The worst part is the character slides, and they intentionally added this since the way to stop this is by hitting on the shoulder buttons.
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I almost didn't get into the MGS series due to how awkward af MGS3 was when I first tried it.

Almost ruined everything. Glad I put up with it. Pretty great game once I got used to them.
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HaVeNII7 posted...

I almost didn't get into the MGS series due to how awkward af MGS3 was when I first tried it.

Almost ruined everything. Glad I put up with it. Pretty great game once I got used to them.

I never finished it on PS2. The HD version improved the controls iirc.
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Am I living in crazy town? I never had any problems with Metal Gear Solid controls--any of them.

In fact, 80% of the games here I have zero complaints with.
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Arcanine2009 posted...

spirit tracks (god damn the flute blowing in the mic is the worst gimmick ever)

Jesus, ST is one of the worst games I've ever played because of that shit. I legit LOVED PH, so it was a real disappointment.
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