Current Events > Let's get the real facts of "peaceful" AntiFa Sorry Folks, Truth Time

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First:

A new study shows that over 90 percent of the anti-fascist protestors in Europe are still living in their mother's basement.

Heat Street reports that the study found that 92 percent of the protesters at these anti-fascist rallies that are believed to have committed violence still live with their parents. Heat Street also notes the following findings from the study:

84% are male
72% are aged 18-29
90% are single
34% are unemployed

So, none of these kids have any life experience. There's your first problem right there. They don't know what they're even talking about. 90% single and 90% live in Mom's basement. It's like...almost...like these people are just your average CEmen. It also shows they have no love in their life. Sad. So, no compassion for any living thing besides themselves. If they had love in their life, they would quickly realize that violence is never a good thing.

- The radical fringe group is considered the more militant side of the "resistance" (that's MILITANT you know, like...violence)

- They promote violence against people who disagree with their views


-Evergreen State College:
Conservative activists clashed with AntiFa after a professor challenged the School's "Day of Absence" - A day in which white students would have to leave the campus to discuss racism and equality. AntiFa protesters reportedly slashed tires, and physically assaulted a number of conservatives.

- A Philadelphia woman once attacked/violated a horse ( a defenseless animal mind you) with a flagpole during some sort of demonstration. The South Jersey AntiFa webpage tried to cover this up by saying she was arrested by attending an anti Muslim rally, and claimed these charges were fabricated. They lied.

Feb 2017: UC Berkely canceled an event hosting Milo Yiannopolous. Thousands of AntiFa losers protested this by not using peace, but instead, by shooting fireworks at the speech venue.

June 2016: California Highway Patrol blamed AntiFa for starting a massive brawl at the capitol in Sacremento. 106 people were charged. 514 misdemeanors. 68 felonies. The demonstrations resulted in thousands of dollars of property damage.

Their goal is political intimidation and chaos through the threat of violence.

And then there's...well..this disturbing image:

http://imgur.com/a/2A1Iy

These people literally want to purge children.
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rekt
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Yup and not every counter protester was an Antifa member. Still doesn't mean this wasn't a neo Nazi march led by the alt right
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Hard to defend nazis huh. Had to focus on something else

Post from a submissive Trump supporter who never realized how bad it is to be a part of an insular subculture.
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*inb4trump*

Edit: well fuck
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Still doesn't change the fact that since the Oklahoma city bombing right wing extremists are responsible for 74 deaths. ANTIFA is responsible for zero.
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TC really wants to defend his precious Neo Nazis, huh?
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Caution, you realize you're getting all your info from sites with a notorious right wing spin on everything, right? Remember pizzagate? Did you learn nothing from that fiasco?

And that flyer was likely made by someone on the alt-right to troll people with. Jesus, can you think critically about stuff for once? No sane person would go around handing out flyers like that. Anyone with 30 minutes and word art could have thrown that shit together. I could make an equally inflammatory one and say the alt-right was handing it out and who could say I was lying about it?
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Not surprised TC is defending nazi's and downplaying a womans death just because "liberals"
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Lol @ the source of Heat Street.
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Ganon19 posted...

Not surprised TC is defending nazi's and downplaying a womans death just because "liberals"

I'm not, he's really been losing it lately. Politics make him go crazy. Shame how he seemed relatively level headed before doubling down on the crazy. I guess this is what getting all your news from crazy right wing websites does to you.
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Your source is trash as well.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heat-street/

Heat Street was also one of the sources Donald Trump quoted for his debunked claim that his phone was wiretapped by Obama. (11/21/2016) Updated (4/5/2017)

Stop pushing fake news lmao
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Ganon19 posted...

Your source is trash as well.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/heat-street/

Heat Street was also one of the sources Donald Trump quoted for his debunked claim that his phone was wiretapped by Obama. (11/21/2016) Updated (4/5/2017)

Stop pushing fake news lmao

Gotem
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I sure do wish peeps like TC would but this much effort into dismantling Neo-Nazis instead of focusing solely on their left leaning opponents. Bend over backwards to denounce the people fighting against white supremacy while putting in the same amount of effort to portray Nazis in as favorable of a light as possible.

Totally a moderate though, amirite.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

I sure do wish peeps like TC would but this much effort into dismantling Neo-Nazis instead of focusing solely on their left leaning opponents. Bend over backwards to denounce the people fighting against white supremacy while putting in the same amount of effort to portray Nazis in as favorable of a light as possible.

Totally a moderate though, amirite.

What do I have to do? Stream myself murdering a Neo Nazi for people to understand that I do not suppor them?

What? So every topic I make now I have to say I do not support Neo Nazis? Should I just put that as my new signature? You're getting ridiculous folks.
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Any argument that starts with pointing out that a group consists of basement dwellers is one I will not finish reading
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I don't think antifa would claim to be peaceful; their stated purpose is the direct, physical opposition to fascists. Not much of a gotcha.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

I sure do wish peeps like TC would but this much effort into dismantling Neo-Nazis instead of focusing solely on their left leaning opponents. Bend over backwards to denounce the people fighting against white supremacy while putting in the same amount of effort to portray Nazis in as favorable of a light as possible.

Totally a moderate though, amirite.

Yep. We should be standing together against the kind of hate being promoted at that rally, regardless of political affiliation, but as Americans. As humans even. :/ Not downplaying it as much as possible and trying to make the other side look bad.
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OK, so apparently my new signature is going to be

"I do NOT support Neo Nazis"

That should shut everyone up, right?
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Caution999 posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

I sure do wish peeps like TC would but this much effort into dismantling Neo-Nazis instead of focusing solely on their left leaning opponents. Bend over backwards to denounce the people fighting against white supremacy while putting in the same amount of effort to portray Nazis in as favorable of a light as possible.

Totally a moderate though, amirite.

What do I have to do? Stream myself murdering a Neo Nazi for people to understand that I do not suppor them?

What? So every topic I make now I have to say I do not support Neo Nazis? Should I just put that as my new signature? You're getting ridiculous folks.

You're right man, that's my bad. How on earth can anyone mistake a guy who'll bend over backwards to defend Nazis as being a nazi sympathizer? I won't make that mistake again, until you go out of your way to defend Nazis some more. Then I most definitely will call you a nazi loving scumbag.

But you're totally just a moderate though.
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I made this topic to counter the ridiculous one where AntiFa is now heroic.
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Caution999 posted...

What do I have to do? Stream myself murdering a Neo Nazi for people to understand that I do not suppor them?

What? So every topic I make now I have to say I do not support Neo Nazis? Should I just put that as my new signature? You're getting ridiculous folks.

if you don't want people to think you support neo nazis... you could like... try not saying stuff that makes it sound like you support neo nazis? :v revolutionary I know. When someone literally got murdered by nazis at a rally, you shouldn't be jumping to try and point out the evils on the other side. It shows everyone that your priorities are fucked up.
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Maybe you should focus less on the alt left being the bad guys and more on the alt right being the bad guys, being as they've actually killed people

And the fact that you made this topic purely as a reactionary topic is just proving everyone's point
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Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.
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Caution999 posted...

I made this topic to counter the ridiculous one where AntiFa is now heroic.

Do you really think there are absolutely 0 heroic AntiFa members?
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Caution999 posted...

I made this topic to counter the ridiculous one where AntiFa is now heroic.

Gotta focus on those heroic Nazis though, don't you moderate?
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Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

One side wants an ethnic purge. The other one doesn't.

Same thing, both sides!
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Let's get the real facts, sorry you goofy goober. Not all counter-protesters there were Antifa. Believe it or not, the general populace comes together to protest KKK/Neo-Nazis coming to their neighborhoods, it's not just protest groups.
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I'd love to, for once, have a conversation with some adults, who don't fly off the handle and accuse me of being "X" once their emotions start flaring.

Identity politics. Got any other strategy for this...or what?
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Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

... how is a group that opposes fascism, and a group that is actively fascist two sides of the same coin? :u that doesn't make sense.

There are bad people in the AntiFa movement, but the movement itself is actually about fighting fascism. The entire New Nazi movement is about being fascist. They're complete opposites.

This is ridiculous.
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

... how is a group that opposes fascism, and a group that is actively fascist two sides of the same coin? :u that doesn't make sense.

There are bad people in the AntiFa movement, but the movement itself is actually about fighting fascism. The entire New Nazi movement is about being fascist. They're complete opposites.

This is ridiculous.

This would indicate that you believe Trump's administration is fascist, which is factually, incorrect.
Also, yes they're the opposite...kind of like how heads is on the opposite side of tails -____-
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

Yup and not every counter protester was an Antifa member. Still doesn't mean this wasn't a neo Nazi march led by the alt right

dont bother, caution has no brain cells to understand.

Caution999 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

... how is a group that opposes fascism, and a group that is actively fascist two sides of the same coin? :u that doesn't make sense.

There are bad people in the AntiFa movement, but the movement itself is actually about fighting fascism. The entire New Nazi movement is about being fascist. They're complete opposites.

This is ridiculous.

This would indicate that you believe Trump's administration is fascist, which is factually, incorrect.

Are you conflating Trump's administration with his Nazi supporters? lol you're the one making the connection, nobody else is.
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No. AntiFa also oppose Trump's administration in addition to fascism - which they believe is fascist.
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Caution999 posted...

I'd love to, for once, have a conversation with some adults, who don't fly off the handle and accuse me of being "X" once their emotions start flaring.

Identity politics. Got any other strategy for this...or what?

You're not acting like an "adult" either! You're literally making reactionary topics on CE where you post fake news from wacko right wing websites. I mean, I'm a professional shitposter and even I can see that!

you need to lay off the politics caution. :u you're losing it. you get too involved and it makes you crazy or something. Focus your energies on something else. Like macrame. I'm working on a lovely macrame owl right now.
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Caution999 posted...

No. AntiFa also oppose Trump's administration in addition to fascism - which they believe is fascist.

Pretty sure Antifa was there to march against neo-nazis, not the Trump administration. Which side was chanting "Heil Trump"?
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Caution999 posted...

This would indicate that you believe Trump's administration is fascist, which is factually, incorrect.
Also, yes they're the opposite...kind of like how heads is on the opposite side of tails -____-

I don't think Trump's administration is fascist. I just think Trump's administration is a mess. :u
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found TC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfMEU7btMbw
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

Caution999 posted...

No. AntiFa also oppose Trump's administration in addition to fascism - which they believe is fascist.

Pretty sure Antifa was there to march against neo-nazis, not the Trump administration. Which side was chanting "Heil Trump"?

Well, you're right about this. I think we're arguing two different things here.
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I don't think neo nazis have anything to do with Trump, honestly. :v Trump might have accidentally enabled them though, in his efforts to try and placate both sides.
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Wariodorf posted...

Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

Nazis - Actually fucking killed people
Antifa - Didn't kill people
Caution999 - They're the same!!1!

in the way that violence is used, yes. It's only a matter of time before someone dies due to their antics. It's simple probability at work. They keep showing up and making/causing trouble...how much longer until someone dies?
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Idk man, you're sitting here conflating Trump's administration with fascism and I can't help but notice the neo-nazis that support him, and yourself, have made that exact same connection. At this point is it really so far out of the question to assume Trump is emboldening Nazis when the Nazis, and you, seem to also agree that he is?
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Caution999 posted...

Wariodorf posted...

Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

Nazis - Actually fucking killed people
Antifa - Didn't kill people
Caution999 - They're the same!!1!

in the way that violence is used, yes. It's only a matter of time before someone dies due to their antics. It's simple probability at work. They keep showing up and making/causing trouble...how much longer until someone dies?

Yes, violence is always bad. What people are talking about is the meanings of the movements itself. Do you honestly think the idea of opposing fascism is equally as bad as outright nazism? in what world?
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Ganon19 posted...

found TC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfMEU7btMbw

Still on the identity politics eh?

Sad! If you wanna reach out to me, via PM, we can have a nice chat. I can show you that I'm not some monster, Lol. If you'd like to get to know each other, I'm sure we're likely more common than you'd like to admit.

I'm just not sensitive to tough subjects. This doesn't make me a sympathizer of bigoted, racist scumbags. If you're an adult, I expect you to maybe consider this possibility.

@Ganon19
Seriously, dude. Would love to alleviate your concerns. I'd be more than glad to humanize myself with ya.
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Ganon19 posted...

found TC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfMEU7btMbw

This has me crying!!!!!
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OpheliaAdenade posted...

Caution999 posted...

Wariodorf posted...

Caution999 posted...

Here's my thoughts:

AntiFa and Neo Nazi's are two sides of the same coin.

Nazis - Actually fucking killed people
Antifa - Didn't kill people
Caution999 - They're the same!!1!

in the way that violence is used, yes. It's only a matter of time before someone dies due to their antics. It's simple probability at work. They keep showing up and making/causing trouble...how much longer until someone dies?

Yes, violence is always bad. What people are talking about is the meanings of the movements itself. Do you honestly think the idea of opposing fascism is equally as bad as outright nazism? in what world?

I think their use of violence is just as bad as the Neo Nazi's use of violence.

I do not have any issue with their ideologies. Really, once you cross the line of "hey I'm going to destroy property or hurt someone" that's when it's too much for me.
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Caution999 posted...

I'd love to, for once, have a conversation with some adults

You get out of a conversation what you put into it.
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BLAKUboy posted...

Caution999 posted...

I'd love to, for once, have a conversation with some adults

You get out of a conversation what you put into it.

So you're saying CE doesn't have any trolls whatsoever?
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