Current Events > Why do white nationalists love East Asians so much?

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Even Hitler admired the Japanese, what gives?
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Because when they see East Asians they see what they want to be
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Asherlee10 posted...

Did Hitler admire the Japanese?

They were labelled honorary Aryans by Hitler.
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The argument usually goes; that they largely maintain their ethnic homogeneity, they have high levels of academic achievement, they have a strong in group preference and are perceived as "traditionalists". There is also little to no Jewish presence within the nations.

Those things are going to be appealing to a white nationalist.
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Bok_Choi posted...

Because when they see East Asians they see what they want to be

must be why every white man wants an asian women, so their children will be
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I think it's partly because they have a high (average) IQ
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Bok_Choi posted...

Because when they see East Asians they see what they want to be

Does this make me racist now, too? ;_;
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North Korea seems to be the only obvious blip in East Asian culture... well aside from WW2 Japan of course.

By and large, they do not.
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CrimsonRage posted...

Jews have all of that too and yet white nationalists hate them.

Something about usury or something.

CrimsonRage posted...

Hicks233 posted...

The argument usually goes; that they largely maintain their ethnic homogeneity, they have high levels of academic achievement, they have a strong in group preference and are perceived as "traditionalists".

Jews have all of that too and yet white nationalists hate them.

Jewish women don't have the exotic looks that East Asian women do.

SaltyWet posted...

By and large, they do not.

Many of the prominent ones do. Nathan Damigo, Richard Spencer, Andrew Anglin, all had flings with East Asian women.

Th3HonestTruth posted...

CrimsonRage posted...

Hicks233 posted...

The argument usually goes; that they largely maintain their ethnic homogeneity, they have high levels of academic achievement, they have a strong in group preference and are perceived as "traditionalists".

Jews have all of that too and yet white nationalists hate them.

Non-nazi conservatives like them. It tends to be leftists who hate Israel

Hating Israel is not the same as hating Jews and this topic is not about non-racist white people.

only internet racists with smug anime girl icons worship the japanese
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So Hitler was a fucking weeb? lol
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Asherlee10 posted...

Did Hitler admire the Japanese? I thought he just saw them as an opportunistic pawn in the war.

In general Hitler seemed like like nations that were of a homogeneous people with a long standing history.

While gross to quote Hitler:

"Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them."
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Hicks233 posted...

The argument usually goes; that they largely maintain their ethnic homogeneity, they have high levels of academic achievement, they have a strong in group preference and are perceived as "traditionalists". There is also little to no Jewish presence within the nations.

Those things are going to be appealing to a white nationalist.

This, but that is not to say they "love" them, just that they think their approach is right.

Asians are also commonly used as a red herring whenever people point out the the woes of minorities caused by centuries of white dominance, the logic being that white dominance can't be blamed for the plight of minorities, especially blacks, if Asians are able to flourish the way they are. Obviously bullshit, but no one expects white supremacists to be smart and rational people.

they're fucking dweeby white boys and dweeby white boys tend to have yellow fever

SaltyWet posted...

By and large, they do not.

according too you right
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"Model Minorities", while largely ignoring their gang problems.
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1)white nationalists do not love East Asians. they seem them as "more civilized" than some of the other grousp.

2)Hitler had sympathy towards Muslims. He allied with Japan. But thats old stuff.
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KILBOTz posted...

While gross to quote Hitler:

In short. Hitler's views more closely align with Richard Spencer than Red Skull.
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what are red skull's views on race?
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Are there any gay White Nationalists that like cute Asian guys like @Bok_Choi
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CrimsonRage posted...

Hicks233 posted...

The argument usually goes; that they largely maintain their ethnic homogeneity, they have high levels of academic achievement, they have a strong in group preference and are perceived as "traditionalists".

Jews have all of that too and yet white nationalists hate them.

I think it all comes down to ingroup preference. European nations tend to have a couple of shared characteristics through history that have defined them:

Exploration
Fighting each other
Fighting everyone else
Kicking out Jews every few hundred years

A lot of those conflicts were funded through the use of Jewish money lenders. If the church is teaching that usury is against its teachings then when you need the money to start another fight, you go where you can get the money, while still remaining - or at least appearing to remain within the churches' good graces. Now if you don't want to then pay that money back... you kick out the Jews again.

When Jews were prevented from taking certain jobs it forced them down certain avenues - one of these was finance. Given that they also stuck to their faith it presented a clear in/outgroup difference. I think where the difference between a sympathy or even positive view for East Asians and a vitriolic hatred for Jews comes through is the continued cycle of expulsion and immigration - the Jews now have their own state. Before that they would have go to another nation, the cycle would repeat and they'd get kicked out of the nation. Whether you go along with arguments of: (for example) failure to integrate, victimisation and lack of opportunity to integrate, or an inherent incompatibility with these nations The presence of East Asians in Europe would be nowhere near as prominent as that of Jews - it's harder to have an inherent distrust or hatred of a group you haven't had live around you, an historic tradition of suspicion of that and other outgroups. Those tendencies made them effective colonising and conquering nations.

When you look at a nation like the US though it becomes messy. The US is a nation that was founded by colonising an already inhabited landmass. The original inhabitants were killed off, nearly totally and a new group took their place. That group was of European descent. Then Blacks were brought over, then East Asians - and among this - yes, Jews. In many ways it was a deliberate and artificial process. The US Constitution tried to "level" the playing field - with caveats that are amended as time goes on. The US is a bold experiment that could go either way. The US is a mixed and artificially constructed nation in ways that European nations aren't - or at least to a lesser extent and a good reason to not view issues of immigration and social cohesion in other nations through a US lens.

The Jews aren't a stupid bunch either. They know that there is a great deal of suspicion and hate regarding them. There tends to however be a significant presence of Jews in groups that advocate or call for multicultural or multi-ethnic societies; it'd be fair to go along the lines of - if a nation is friendly towards multiple ethnicities and religions - maybe Jews won't get targeted in it? A "white nationalist" - if we're going on the basis of this meaning someone that wants an ethnostate and either the expulsion or segregation of any other outgroup members is going to see that, see the efforts that are counter to *their* goals and regard them as a major threat. I think there is envy as well over the status of Israel. They get away with a lot of shit as criticism of Israel tends to be categorised as Anti-Semitism, though this goes into pro/anti-Zionism.

It's all a big fucking mess essentially. All comes down to ingroup preference and how you define your ingroup and how much wiggle room and space there is for an outgroup (if any).
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Hicks233 posted...

if a nation is friendly towards multiple ethnicities and religions - maybe Jews won't get targeted in it

that's essentially false btw. Anyone who has been paying attention to race relations in the US knows its about teams, and not about equality.

Some people are essentially not racist at all, some people are specifically only racist towards Indians, or to blacks or to Japan or whatever. But its a foolish as hell belief.

cuteandkawaii posted...

Hicks233 posted...

if a nation is friendly towards multiple ethnicities and religions - maybe Jews won't get targeted in it

that's essentially false btw. Anyone who has been paying attention to race relations in the US knows its about teams, and not about equality.

Some people are essentially not racist at all, some people are specifically only racist towards Indians, or to blacks or to Japan or whatever. But its a foolish as hell belief.

That's why it's presented as "if". There isn't a nation where *all* ethnicities/religions/ideologies are going to be welcome - or at least it is spectacularly unlikely. Humans are tribal by nature, that nature has allowed them to survive as well as to destroy. It's idealism to hope otherwise, but (as you've said about teams) - if you can try and encourage and/or force a shift in attitude then you can improve things for your own ingroup (whichever it may be).

Like I finished with, it's all a big mess.
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Modern day: it's because they grew up watching anime.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...

"Model Minorities", while largely ignoring their gang problems.

They said East Asian

In America, most Asian gang problems stem from Southeast Asian communities - partially due to how America treats them, and has treated them in the past, compared to East Asians.
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KILBOTz posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Did Hitler admire the Japanese? I thought he just saw them as an opportunistic pawn in the war.

In general Hitler seemed like like nations that were of a homogeneous people with a long standing history.

While gross to quote Hitler:

"Pride in one's own race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them."

not any of the african ones though. he should admire them the most as they're the only people not mixed at all, and certainly not mixed with neanderthals.
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Bok_Choi posted...

Blue_Dream87 posted...

"Model Minorities", while largely ignoring their gang problems.

They said East Asian

In America, most Asian gang problems stem from Southeast Asian communities - partially due to how America treats them, and has treated them in the past, compared to East Asians.

Hmong chinese are east asian...
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Fony posted...

Hmong chinese are east asian...

Hmong are classified and perceived as Southeast Asian

Gran Torino is not a resource btw
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Bok_Choi posted...

Hmong are classified and perceived as Southeast Asian

Is there really much difference?
Specifying "southeast" mostly just excludes Russia, and maybe Japan and Mongolia.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Specifying "southeast" mostly just excludes Russia, Japan, and maybe Mongolia.

Southeast Asia refers to the area of like Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, etc
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Hicks233 posted...

The argument usually goes; that they largely maintain their ethnic homogeneity, they have high levels of academic achievement, they have a strong in group preference and are perceived as "traditionalists". There is also little to no Jewish presence within the nations.

Those things are going to be appealing to a white nationalist.

Bingo.

Bok_Choi posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

Specifying "southeast" mostly just excludes Russia, Japan, and maybe Mongolia.

Southeast Asia refers to the area of like Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, etc

Oh, fine.

Asians are the only other group who widely believe whites are better than everyone else, that's why. They're basically really good pets, more loyal than a dog.
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Because East Asians love them so much, more than they love themselves actually.