Current Events > Cliffy B's new game Lawbreakers flopped harder than Battleborn at launch

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Darmik 08/09/17 6:30:32 PM #1:	https://www.pcgamesn.com/lawbreakers/lawbreakers-player-count Despite getting decent reviews, gravity-bending FPS LawBreakers is struggling to keep an active player base just days after release. It failed to launch within the top 100 games on Steam, and even Battleborn, the poster child of launch flops, had higher player numbers at this point in its life. According to GITHYP, the final release for LawBreakers saw a whopping 60% reduction over its initial beta player count. Launch night saw only a peak of 3k players, which is pretty bad when compared to Battleborn’s 12k. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like it was just a rough start, as since then the numbers have only gone down. Daily lows are already dropping to below 1,000 players, and the peaks are also going down as the days go by. Tuesday, the day after launch, saw a reduction of 300 people, giving a peak of only 2.7k. Ouch --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884485650] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>https://www.pcgamesn.com/lawbreakers/lawbreakers-player-count <quote> Despite getting decent reviews, gravity-bending FPS LawBreakers is struggling to keep an active player base just days after release. It failed to launch within the top 100 games on Steam, and even Battleborn, the poster child of launch flops, had higher player numbers at this point in its life. According to GITHYP, the final release for LawBreakers saw a whopping 60% reduction over its initial beta player count. Launch night saw only a peak of 3k players, which is pretty bad when compared to Battleborn’s 12k. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like it was just a rough start, as since then the numbers have only gone down. Daily lows are already dropping to below 1,000 players, and the peaks are also going down as the days go by. Tuesday, the day after launch, saw a reduction of 300 people, giving a peak of only 2.7k.</quote> Ouch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnbuSpecialist 08/09/17 6:32:10 PM #2:	Is that because the game is bad or another reason? --- Train <cite>AnbuSpecialist posted [p:884485753] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>Is that because the game is bad or another reason?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/09/17 6:33:28 PM #3:	AnbuSpecialist posted... Is that because the game is bad or another reason? The game sounds good so maybe it will gain momentum as time goes on. I think the issue is just competition in this market is way too strong. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884485833] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>AnbuSpecialist posted...</cite> <quote>Is that because the game is bad or another reason?</quote> The game sounds good so maybe it will gain momentum as time goes on. I think the issue is just competition in this market is way too strong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gheb 08/09/17 6:34:04 PM #4:	I'm not sure I even heard of this game. --- S** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again.* - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl <cite>Gheb posted [p:884485865] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>I'm not sure I even heard of this game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 08/09/17 6:37:30 PM #5:	That's the problem with modern day open Beta's / Paid to Play Beta's. Most of the hardcore audience gets burned out and moves on by launch. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:884486078] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>That's the problem with modern day open Beta's / Paid to Play Beta's. Most of the hardcore audience gets burned out and moves on by launch.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 6:38:37 PM #6:	weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884486138] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/09/17 6:39:42 PM #7:	AlternativeFAQS posted... weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884486196] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b</quote> They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wedge Antilles 08/09/17 6:40:22 PM #8:	Had a couple friends play in the beta and said it wasn't awful, but not great. --- I used the knife. I saved a child. I won a war. God forgive me. <cite>Wedge Antilles posted [p:884486234] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>Had a couple friends play in the beta and said it wasn't awful, but not great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 6:40:51 PM #9:	Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. glad it's going well for them <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884486264] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b</quote> They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later.</quote> glad it's going well for them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/09/17 6:42:04 PM #10:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. glad it's going well for them If it flopped on PC and PS4 I doubt the Xbox One will change anything. If anything that would be even worse. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884486345] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b</quote> They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later.</quote> glad it's going well for them</quote> If it flopped on PC and PS4 I doubt the Xbox One will change anything. If anything that would be even worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 6:43:04 PM #11:	they coulda sold like 100 copies and doubled their profits <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884486388] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>they coulda sold like 100 copies and doubled their profits</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 08/09/17 6:44:58 PM #13:	M_Live posted... I have 0 idea what this game is other than hearing that it flopped, bad marketing? I guess so. It's an arena FPS multiplayer shooter. It doesn't really stand out much which is its biggest problem. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884486488] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>M_Live posted...</cite> <quote>I have 0 idea what this game is other than hearing that it flopped, bad marketing?</quote> I guess so. It's an arena FPS multiplayer shooter. It doesn't really stand out much which is its biggest problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 08/09/17 6:45:40 PM #14:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. glad it's going well for them Yeah because prioritizing games on Xbox has worked well in the past cough Rise of the Tomb Raider cough --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:884486526] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote> weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b </quote> They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later.</quote> glad it's going well for them</quote> Yeah because prioritizing games on Xbox has worked well in the past cough Rise of the Tomb Raider cough</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePieReborn 08/09/17 6:47:11 PM #15:	The beta was okay. My biggest issue with it was that it felt cluttered/things blended together. Probably carry over from having extremely distinct silhouettes in TF2. The shooting was good and movement was okay. The use of a fuel gauge as opposed to hard cooldowns for movement and some abilities appealed to me, but it's no replacement for rocket jumping. The major problem is that they were attempting to wrestle with Blizzard. Spoilers: ~~You're never going to win.~~ --- Party leader, passive-aggressive doormat, pasta eater extraordinaire! <cite>ThePieReborn posted [p:884486602] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>The beta was okay. My biggest issue with it was that it felt cluttered/things blended together. Probably carry over from having extremely distinct silhouettes in TF2. The shooting was good and movement was okay. The use of a fuel gauge as opposed to hard cooldowns for movement and some abilities appealed to me, but it's no replacement for rocket jumping. The major problem is that they were attempting to wrestle with Blizzard. Spoilers: You're never going to win.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twinmold 08/09/17 6:47:50 PM #16:	Game was waaaay too 90's to succeed. You need a better hook than classes and anti gravity to be successful these days. --- Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - Mark Twain <cite>Twinmold posted [p:884486643] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>Game was waaaay too 90's to succeed. You need a better hook than classes and anti gravity to be successful these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 6:47:57 PM #17:	Gamer99z posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. glad it's going well for them Yeah because prioritizing games on Xbox has worked well in the past cough Rise of the Tomb Raider cough sold well enough to warrant a sequel. <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884486649] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote> weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b </quote> They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later.</quote> glad it's going well for them</quote> Yeah because prioritizing games on Xbox has worked well in the past cough Rise of the Tomb Raider cough</quote> sold well enough to warrant a sequel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 08/09/17 6:49:31 PM #18:	It looks solid, but I'm tired to death of class based shooters. --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:884486718] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>It looks solid, but I'm tired to death of class based shooters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/09/17 6:51:08 PM #19:	AlternativeFAQS posted... sold well enough to warrant a sequel. Probably more like they're giving it one last chance with a smarter launch. Rise of the Tomb Raider being a timed exclusive did not work out well for them at all. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884486806] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>sold well enough to warrant a sequel.</quote> Probably more like they're giving it one last chance with a smarter launch. Rise of the Tomb Raider being a timed exclusive did not work out well for them at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJGrimReaper 08/09/17 6:52:09 PM #20:	It came out already? >_> I've seen no advertising for it at all --- Big Apple, 3 A.M. http://i.imgur.com/CqukfNH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JgG0NO0.jpg <cite>SSJGrimReaper posted [p:884486860] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>It came out already? >_> I've seen no advertising for it at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 6:52:29 PM #21:	Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... sold well enough to warrant a sequel. Probably more like they're giving it one last chance with a smarter launch. Rise of the Tomb Raider being a timed exclusive did not work out well for them at all. when it came out on ps4 it didnt sell at all <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884486882] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>sold well enough to warrant a sequel.</quote> Probably more like they're giving it one last chance with a smarter launch. Rise of the Tomb Raider being a timed exclusive did not work out well for them at all.</quote> when it came out on ps4 it didnt sell at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 08/09/17 6:52:57 PM #22:	AlternativeFAQS posted... Gamer99z posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... Darmik posted... AlternativeFAQS posted... weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. glad it's going well for them Yeah because prioritizing games on Xbox has worked well in the past cough Rise of the Tomb Raider cough sold well enough to warrant a sequel. Not on Xbox it didn't. It was a timed Xbox 360/One exclusive that came out in November and didn't turn a profit until like January and then the PC version came out and sold well, and a year after PS4 got the 20th Anniversary Edition with a bunch of extras and it sold more. It flopped really bad when it was just on Xbox and wouldn't have even been notably profitable without PC and PS4. --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:884486903] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Gamer99z posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote> weird how they released it on ps4 and PC. eh fuck cliffy b </quote> They're a small studio and PS4 is the smarter choice to give priority. They'll probably port it later. </quote> glad it's going well for them </quote> Yeah because prioritizing games on Xbox has worked well in the past cough Rise of the Tomb Raider cough </quote> sold well enough to warrant a sequel.</quote> Not on Xbox it didn't. It was a timed Xbox 360/One exclusive that came out in November and didn't turn a profit until like January and then the PC version came out and sold well, and a year after PS4 got the 20th Anniversary Edition with a bunch of extras and it sold more. It flopped really bad when it was just on Xbox and wouldn't have even been notably profitable without PC and PS4.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 6:56:54 PM #23:	gonna need some sauce <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884487103] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>gonna need some sauce</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/09/17 7:03:55 PM #24:	Rise of the Tomb Raider sold pretty good on PC. But we have no idea if it sold better on PS4 or Xbox One. Neither really charted well. It likely would have done a helluva lot better if PS4 and Xbox One were released at the same time though. A year late port for $60 after Uncharted 4 was never gonna do all that great. Meanwhile there wasn't really any reason as to why it shouldn't have sold gangbusters on Xbox One. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884487484] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>Rise of the Tomb Raider sold pretty good on PC. But we have no idea if it sold better on PS4 or Xbox One. Neither really charted well. It likely would have done a helluva lot better if PS4 and Xbox One were released at the same time though. A year late port for $60 after Uncharted 4 was never gonna do all that great. Meanwhile there wasn't really any reason as to why it shouldn't have sold gangbusters on Xbox One.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 08/09/17 7:06:22 PM #25:	hmm mmhm <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:884487617] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>hmm mmhm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/09/17 7:12:12 PM #26:	It sold 1.5 million on PC http://steamspy.com/app/391220 Apparently it tripled the Xbox One sales at launch https://www.gamespot.com/articles/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-first-month-pc-sales-almos/1100-6435094/ No idea what happened with the PS4 version though. Wouldn't surprise me if it sold more in the long run. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:884487911] in Cliffy B's... [t:75654657]...</cite> <quote>It sold 1.5 million on PC http://steamspy.com/app/391220 Apparently it tripled the Xbox One sales at launch https://www.gamespot.com/articles/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-first-month-pc-sales-almos/1100-6435094/ No idea what happened with the PS4 version though. Wouldn't surprise me if it sold more in the long run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Cliffy B's new game Lawbreakers flopped harder than Battleborn at launch (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Cliffy B's new game Lawbreakers flopped harder than Battleborn at launch