Current Events > *requests an employee to do something for me* response: "why?"

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I never wanted to actually HIT an employee before but this came close

holy shit

If I had the power to fire him he'd have gone home on the spot.

Jesus fucking christ.
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Your sig is a lie.
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I had a guy who did this constantly at my old job. He's such a fucking dipship but somehow never got in trouble because he was a crack baby or something.
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Depending on the situation, that is an appropriate response. Like if you are telling them something that doesn't seem to make much sense, it is better if the employee questions it.
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uwnim posted...

Depending on the situation, that is an appropriate response. Like if you are telling them something that doesn't seem to make much sense, it is better if the employee questions it.

In my case it was a dude literally needing a detailed explanation to what his job was every time he was asked to do it basically.
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uwnim posted...

Depending on the situation, that is an appropriate response. Like if you are telling them something that doesn't seem to make much sense, it is better if the employee questions it.

I'd be more understanding in that situation, of course. I can identify when we're going out of our usual MO and we'd need to explain

But it was a simple and direct order
I coordinate a driver service operation, and I asked him (quite nicely) to relocate to a different spot for me, because another driver had become unavailable (but he doesn't have to know this and it's not part of his job to know)
This is not out of the blue and it's not uncommon for us to move people around

"Why"

I'm still fuming
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joeun_saram posted...

uwnim posted...

Depending on the situation, that is an appropriate response. Like if you are telling them something that doesn't seem to make much sense, it is better if the employee questions it.

I'd be more understanding in that situation, of course. I can identify when we're going out of our usual MO and we'd need to explain

But it was a simple and direct order
I coordinate a driver service operation, and I asked him (quite nicely) to relocate to a different spot for me, because another driver had become unavailable (but he doesn't have to know this and it's not part of his job to know)
This is not out of the blue and it's not uncommon for us to move people around

"Why"

I'm still fuming

Ok, yeah. Sounds like the employee is still doing their standard job duties, just in a different location.
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Imagine if a CEman was your manager
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Fucking hate management. People questioning you over the simplest requests. Been doing it two months and it would be nice for people just to fucking do what is told of them without questioning it. Problem is I try and be accommodating and making sure everything is "fair" and if someone does have a question I'd rather answer the why and how because if I were in their position I'd appreciate it as well but not every damn request.

REMercsChamp posted...

Imagine if a CEman was your manager

Most CEmen actually have a stupid attention to detail that would be useful if they could pair it with decent human interaction skills

Imagine if CE turned all of its negative energy toward useful things
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joeun_saram posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

Imagine if a CEman was your manager

Most CEmen actually have a stupid attention to detail that would be useful if they could pair it with decent human interaction skills

Imagine if CE turned all of its negative energy toward useful things

You're proof that CEmen make terrible managers. Someone asks you a question and you want to beat the employee as a response.
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REMercsChamp posted...

You're proof that CEmen make terrible managers. Someone asks you a question and you want to beat the employee as a response.

I have a thing about insolence. I don't tolerate it very well.

But this guy has been working here a while and should know better
He's really been trying my nerves these last few days too smh
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I had a boss who was like the stereotypical CEman.

He was very good at his job except when it came to actually interacting with anyone. Clients, his subordinates, his bosses. He was such a colossal smug douche that thought he was smarter than everyone when all he was really good at was his specific job.

He ended up getting butthurt that they wouldn't promote him to a job that required him to deal with people on a daily basis and just up and quit one day. It was pretty funny cause he threw an awkward tantrum too.
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joeun_saram posted...

I have a thing about insolence. I don't tolerate it very well.

lol classic CEman response.
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Oh look who I'm talking to
nvm

You're blowing things up from my OP

"Someone asks you a question" first of all it wasn't a question, it was giving me lip

"you want to beat the employee" second of all no i said I came close to wanting to hit them, not that i wanted to "beat them"

typical troll job
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Maybe it's because I don't work in manual labor but I find the idea of not being able to ask your boss questions or question decisions pretty hilarious
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TC sounds like a pyscho. An employee is slightly annoying, and he can barely restrain himself from beating the other person up? Are you kidding me?
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Sunhawk posted...

TC sounds like a pyscho. An employee is slightly annoying, and he can barely restrain himself from beating the other person up? Are you kidding me?

You can't even hold down a menial job IDK how you want to talk shit at anyone right now

sit down
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okay i think i'm actually seeing now what you guys mean

i may have overreacted a little

i'm unusually grouchy at 6 in the morning i guess
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joeun_saram posted...

okay i think i'm actually seeing now what you guys mean

i may have overreacted a little

i'm unusually grouchy at 6 in the morning i guess

No shit lol
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"Backs away slowly from tc"
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joeun_saram posted...

sit down

why should we?
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joeun_saram posted...

uwnim posted...

Depending on the situation, that is an appropriate response. Like if you are telling them something that doesn't seem to make much sense, it is better if the employee questions it.

I'd be more understanding in that situation, of course. I can identify when we're going out of our usual MO and we'd need to explain

But it was a simple and direct order
I coordinate a driver service operation, and I asked him (quite nicely) to relocate to a different spot for me, because another driver had become unavailable (but he doesn't have to know this and it's not part of his job to know)
This is not out of the blue and it's not uncommon for us to move people around

"Why"

I'm still fuming

It sounds like you are an ineffective leader.
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Fill_Kessel posted...

It sounds like you are an ineffective leader.

This. A good boss would not be questioned like that, his employee would trust him to make the right calls and not disrespect him.
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This is why everyone needs to join the military for awhile. Discipline.
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Imagine wanting to assault an employee.

Maybe you should try to command respect harder.
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joeun_saram posted...

I coordinate a driver service operation, and I asked him (quite nicely) to relocate to a different spot for me, because another driver had become unavailable (but he doesn't have to know this and it's not part of his job to know)
This is not out of the blue and it's not uncommon for us to move people around

This says everything I need to know about you.

1. You take your job way too seriously.
2. You think your job is more important than it is
3. You're a douche

When he asks "why?" he could simply be wondering what happened to necessitate the change out of pure curiosity. The grown up response is "another driver isn't available" and you either tell him why he isn't available or say you can't tell him why.

Not get all butthurt, take it as a slight to your ego, and then get on Gamefaqs to cry about it.

Shit like this is why you're never going to move past a basic supervisor position.
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AzureAnihilator posted...

This. A good boss would not be questioned like that, his employee would trust him to make the right calls and not disrespect him.

Oh yeah, never could be that an employee has a problem with respect and following orders in general

And it's hollow saying this now, after these accusations have been levied against me! but I normally am very relaxed at work, the drivers all like me and generally I don't have a problem like this from any of the other drivers.

It's this one guy
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But I mean I guess it's easy to sit back and criticize a guy who was just trying to vent some frustration off

I did overreact though, definitely. It's just having to wake up at 3am doesn't feel good on anyone, I guess.
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joeun_saram posted...

And it's hollow saying this now, after these accusations have been levied against me! but I normally am very relaxed at work, the drivers all like me and generally I don't have a problem like this from any of the other drivers.

they don't like you. they appease you in order to avoid you as much as they can.
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Swagnificent119 posted...

they don't like you. they appease you in order to avoid you as much as they can.

Okay, now you're trying too hard lol
Honestly I WISH they'd try to avoid the office a little more...
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joeun_saram posted...

I never wanted to actually HIT an employee before but this came close

holy shit

If I had the power to fire him he'd have gone home on the spot.

Jesus fucking christ.

Why?
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joeun_saram posted...

But I mean I guess it's easy to sit back and criticize a guy who was just trying to vent some frustration off

I did overreact though, definitely. It's just having to wake up at 3am doesn't feel good on anyone, I guess.

now you should live up to your sig and apologize to the employee
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DirkDiggles posted...

Why?

He's a persistent problem employee. He's had several complaints against him by a few female employees. It was really a misunderstanding (actual cultural differences) and we mediated... but the dude is still weird.

He will try and fight perfectly normal and common commands. Like a manchild "why can't i stay here instead" etc

I'm okay with asking questions normally, and I'm happy to answer, but just at like 6:15 AM after having otten up 3 hours prior

I really wasn't in the mood I guess ps i feel better now
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I have to work early hours and that is justification for flying off the handle and wanting to physically assault my employees for slighting my absurdly frail ego.

I am a good person.
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joeun_saram posted...

But I mean I guess it's easy to sit back and criticize a guy who was just trying to vent some frustration off

I did overreact though, definitely. It's just having to wake up at 3am doesn't feel good on anyone, I guess.

Why

joeun_saram posted...

He's a persistent problem employee. He's had several complaints against him by a few female employees. It was really a misunderstanding (actual cultural differences) and we mediated... but the dude is still weird.

He will try and fight perfectly normal and common commands. Like a manchild "why can't i stay here instead" etc

I'm okay with asking questions normally, and I'm happy to answer, but just at like 6:15 AM after having otten up 3 hours prior

I really wasn't in the mood I guess ps i feel better now

Why?
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joeun_saram posted...

DirkDiggles posted...

Why?

He's a persistent problem employee. He's had several complaints against him by a few female employees. It was really a misunderstanding (actual cultural differences) and we mediated... but the dude is still weird.

He will try and fight perfectly normal and common commands. Like a manchild "why can't i stay here instead" etc

I'm okay with asking questions normally, and I'm happy to answer, but just at like 6:15 AM after having otten up 3 hours prior

I really wasn't in the mood I guess ps i feel better now

That's what you should've said from the jump

averagejoel posted...

now you should live up to your sig and apologize to the employee

oh i didn't actually blow up at him or anything
i just told him "i can't get a question from you every time i ask you to do something. when we ask you to move, it's because we need you there. thanks."

SO that guy up there that did a thorough breakdown of my personality at work was totally right
i took it as a slight to my ego (where did this come from lmfao my post about insolence?)
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Teddytalks posted...

That's what you should've said from the jump

I WAS ANGRY
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joeun_saram posted...

Teddytalks posted...

That's what you should've said from the jump

I WAS ANGRY

Woah, calm down. Don't hit Teddy! You're a good person, Joe! You're a GOOD person!
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joeun_saram posted...

Teddytalks posted...

That's what you should've said from the jump

I WAS ANGRY

Why though?
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It depends entirely on his tone of voice.

If someone under me generally wanted to know why something was being done there's nothing wrong with that, and if it was for a safety concern it's definitely cool because people get killed every year in our line of work. If it was a smartass response because they don't want to do it, then I feel for you because I unleash hell on guys when they get lippy like that and I usually make sure to make their job suck more when I get those types of people.
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joeun_saram posted...

Okay, now you're trying too hard lol
Honestly I WISH they'd try to avoid the office a little more...

"No, everyone loves me, I swear. Even when I get annoyed with them coming to my "office" to ask basic questions!"
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joeun_saram posted...

SO that guy up there that did a thorough breakdown of my personality at work was totally right

If I wasn't right, you wouldn't be so defensive about it.
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