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TheRealDill2000 08/06/17 11:03:51 PM #152: |
Cheater87 posted...
What will the Trump administration do about them? I'm pretty sure the administration will support this movement. I voted for Trump largely because he showed solidarity with marginalized groups. This should not be any different. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AcFan87 08/06/17 11:07:27 PM #154: |
I would hope that the majority of people would reject a racist movement like BLM, I do not have a negative view of cops though.
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TheRealDill2000 08/06/17 11:09:44 PM #155: |
AcFan87 posted...
I would hope that the majority of people would reject a racist movement like BLM, I do not have a negative view of cops though. Nothing racist about #BLM. --- CE's source of sage-ly advice #BLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 08/07/17 9:48:20 PM #156: |
BLM made at least one appearance that I saw since he got elected.
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AcFan87 08/07/17 11:18:39 PM #157: |
TheRealDill2000 posted...
AcFan87 posted...I would hope that the majority of people would reject a racist movement like BLM, I do not have a negative view of cops though. EVERYTHING about BLM is racist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 08/08/17 1:12:11 AM #158: |
What's racist about BLM is the response to it. The places that people like you pull the sources from to paint the narrative that BLM is racist. I mean, WHERE WOULD YOU GO TO FIND THAT SHIT? Why are you looking that shit up? It's pretty fucking obvious that it's white supremacist recruitment sites.
Kineth posted... So many people in this topic are so desperate to not have the focus be on how the data fully explains why they're perceived as racist. One going so far as to say "not all white respondents". No, just y'all though. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 08/08/17 1:13:38 AM #159: |
Kineth posted...
What's racist about BLM is the response to it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wheeze42 08/08/17 1:21:37 AM #160: |
darkjedilink posted...
CrimsonRage posted...ZMythos posted...CrimsonRage posted... you dont, you just call 911....racist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 08/08/17 1:28:27 AM #161: |
darkjedilink posted...
So, how long after a black man runs up behind me, knocks me down, sits on my chest, and starts slamming my head into the pavement, all with no physical provocation whatsoever, am I supposed to wait before it's socially acceptable to defend myself? what makes you think a black male will run up and do all that shit you're imagining? --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xsouljah 08/08/17 1:32:03 AM #162: |
Wheeze42 posted...
you dont, you just call 911....racist Not if you only know how to dial 1911 or just 357 --- 10+ years of FAQn Explore http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1179-af-archery-and-firearms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 08/08/17 9:55:48 AM #163: |
Spooking posted...
Not in the US. George Zimmerman defended himself the same way you described and he got off. I know. I said in any other case as in a case with proper trial and justice and no racism involved. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Blade Forged in Darkness: An award-winning Fantasy Novel:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/08/17 11:37:07 AM #164: |
Bishop9800 posted...
darkjedilink posted...So, how long after a black man runs up behind me, knocks me down, sits on my chest, and starts slamming my head into the pavement, all with no physical provocation whatsoever, am I supposed to wait before it's socially acceptable to defend myself? That's literally what Trayvonn Martin did before George Zimmerman shot him to death. So, if the argument is that Zimmerman was 'too quick' to defend himself from such, what is the socially acceptable period of time to let a black man assault you? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/08/17 11:43:37 AM #165: |
Knowledge_King posted...
darkjedilink posted...So, how long after a black man runs up behind me, knocks me down, sits on my chest, and starts slamming my head into the pavement, all with no physical provocation whatsoever, am I supposed to wait before it's socially acceptable to defend myself? Literally none of your responses have a correct statement. You ignore forensic evidence, eyewitness testimony, and video surveillance to continue to believe outright falsehoods so you don't have to learn anything --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 08/08/17 11:45:56 AM #166: |
Kineth posted...
What's racist about BLM is the response to it. The places that people like you pull the sources from to paint the narrative that BLM is racist. I mean, WHERE WOULD YOU GO TO FIND THAT SHIT? Why are you looking that shit up? It's pretty fucking obvious that it's white supremacist recruitment sites. You mean sources like these? https://www.dmagazine.com/frontburner/2017/07/a-new-study-finds-white-dallas-police-officers-dont-disproportionately-use-less-than-lethal-force-against-minorities/ Or these? http://www.swacj.org/swjcj/archives/7.2/Klahm%20and%20Tillyer%20Article%20(5).pdf None came from any "white supremacist recruitment center", unless you count the Dailycaller as a white supremacist site (someone better inform all the black and brown people who write there of that, lol), or Google. Perhaps if you ever ventured away from your anti-white huffpost safe space, you'd know that there are non-white supremacist conservative sites that GASP, actually inform their readers that there is academic literature disputing the BLM narrative. How dare they! They must be white supremacists, asserts Kineth!!!!!! What's racist about BLM is the response to it. Did you ever see the BLM response to the justified shooting of Antonio Martin? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Antonio_Martin I did, and I watched as legions of BLM racists tried to stick it to a white cop for defending himself against a black man that pointed a gun at his FACE -- something caught on surveillance -- all because they hated his race. I watched as they tried to claim that the police doctored the video. I watched as dozens of racist memes and comments got retweeted. Don't get me started on the Milwaukee riots debacle and the social media aftermath of Micah Johnson. You're not going to fool me into believing that BLM isn't brimming with bigots who only care about these black lives because WHITE people took them. It's no different than how the far right "cares" about all those sexual assault victims perped by "Muslims". They only care because people from a group they hate assaulted "their women". It's about the "other". It's racist hatred, and it's not racist to call it out. Here's some literature that you'll never read about at the NYT, Salon, Huffpost, Waspost, etc. Early studies reported that officer race/ethnicity was not related to the likelihood or Yet note how often BLM bigots emphasize the race of the white cop as if that is relevant. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/08/17 11:48:48 AM #167: |
darkjedilink posted...
Knowledge_King posted... you probably shouldn't have quoted the post that was true in order to say that, then, lolololol unless you have evidence that contradicts that very post? you're literally denying that there is any truth to that post. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JohnLennon6 08/08/17 12:03:33 PM #168: |
I'm one of them.
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The Admiral 08/08/17 12:29:06 PM #169: |
Knowledge_King posted...
HvE25aa posted... "Nothing to warrant it" This is why people think BLM is a joke. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kolibri X 08/08/17 12:30:57 PM #170: |
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mustachedmystic 08/08/17 12:33:05 PM #171: |
I find it highly disingenuous to call 57% most. It's nothing more than a small majority.
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Lathissamus 08/08/17 12:35:24 PM #172: |
I'm a white guy that views the BLM movement in a positive way. Stay triggered.
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darkjedilink 08/08/17 12:36:33 PM #173: |
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
darkjedilink posted...Knowledge_King posted... No, I said HIS RESPONSES. Not 'everything I quoted.' Learn to read. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 08/08/17 12:40:29 PM #174: |
mustachedmystic posted...
I find it highly disingenuous to call 57% most. It's nothing more than a small majority. Can you believe this guy? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 08/08/17 12:44:02 PM #175: |
Ammonitida posted...
I know you expect me to respond to your shit in a way that validates it, but I'm not wasting my time with arguments I've seen 100 times before that are still bullshit. The study at the start of this topic said 5/6 black people view BLM positively. People like you who talk completely unjustified shit about the movement get viewed as racist. Shocking? Maybe go outside. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 08/08/17 12:50:07 PM #176: |
The Admiral posted...
Knowledge_King posted...HvE25aa posted... I still remember how BLM focused on that sole white woman who gave false testimony in favor of Wilson and mostly ignored the 8 "witnesses" that admitted to fabricating their testimony in order to incriminate Wilson. The BLM trolls at Gawker ran several pieces about this white woman and made it sound like she was the reason the grand jury refused to indict. The intellectual dishonesty of BLM supporters is sickening. It doesn't matter that Wilson is a white man. It's still wrong for a multitude of "witnesses" to fabricate testimony against him, as he did nothing to warrant it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/08/17 12:53:25 PM #177: |
Ammonitida posted...
mustachedmystic posted...I find it highly disingenuous to call 57% most. It's nothing more than a small majority. I bet you think "most" Americans voted for Trump. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 08/08/17 12:55:27 PM #179: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Ammonitida posted...mustachedmystic posted...I find it highly disingenuous to call 57% most. It's nothing more than a small majority. Seriously? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 08/08/17 1:23:30 PM #180: |
mustachedmystic posted...
Ammonitida posted...mustachedmystic posted...I find it highly disingenuous to call 57% most. It's nothing more than a small majority. I bet you think 'most' Americans voted for Clinton. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/08/17 1:30:33 PM #181: |
darkjedilink posted...
mustachedmystic posted...Ammonitida posted...mustachedmystic posted...I find it highly disingenuous to call 57% most. It's nothing more than a small majority. Are you talking to me?' I already established that 57% is not "most". --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JohnLennon6 08/08/17 2:47:03 PM #182: |
Lathissamus posted...
I'm a white guy that views the BLM movement in a positive way. Stay triggered. Let me guess, Californian? --- Blue Lives Matter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/08/17 8:06:56 PM #183: |
the circle jerk continues
--- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Knowledge_King 08/08/17 8:18:16 PM #184: |
The Admiral posted...
Knowledge_King posted...HvE25aa posted... I mean...I'm not BLM nor do I support it but...go on and enlighten me on what he did to warrant being shot and killed. I'll wait. darkjedilink posted... No, I said HIS RESPONSES. Not 'everything I quoted.' And that makes you wrong. Factually. Because Zimmerman is factually the killer and we factually don't have Trayvon's side of the story. Also the rapes, deaths, severe injuries, holding people down economically, etc. stuff is literal fact and has been studied and proven to have happened in the past. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Blade Forged in Darkness: An award-winning Fantasy Novel:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 08/09/17 12:09:28 AM #185: |
Knowledge_King posted...
The Admiral posted...Knowledge_King posted...HvE25aa posted... Read this and learn something. https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/doj_report_on_shooting_of_michael_brown_1.pdf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PtlessAgmnts 08/10/17 10:35:17 PM #186: |
Harvard knows whats up
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MangaFan462 08/10/17 11:47:52 PM #187: |
Can't take BLM seriously when they ignore black crime.
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mustachedmystic 08/10/17 11:53:58 PM #188: |
MangaFan462 posted...
Can't take BLM seriously when they ignore black crime. Dumb ass argument, it's like saying "can't take MDS seriously when they ignore leukemia". --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 08/10/17 11:58:24 PM #189: |
mustachedmystic posted...
MangaFan462 posted...Can't take BLM seriously when they ignore black crime. Black crime (or rather, disproportionate levels of black crimes compared to other races) is most of the reason the police have the attitude towards that group that they do. Ignoring the enormous disparity in crime rates (especially violent crime) has always been the elephant in the room for BLM. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 08/11/17 12:04:26 AM #190: |
The Admiral posted...
Black crime (or rather, disproportionate levels of black crimes compared to other races) is most of the reason the police have the attitude towards that group that they do. Ignoring the enormous disparity in crime rates (especially violent crime) has always been the elephant in the room for BLM. Maybe, but BLM has always been(and everyone knows this) about police misconduct towards African Americans. --- Guns; freedom you can hold in your hand. Sampson, Terrordactyl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/11/17 2:36:36 AM #191: |
mustachedmystic posted...
The Admiral posted...Black crime (or rather, disproportionate levels of black crimes compared to other races) is most of the reason the police have the attitude towards that group that they do. Ignoring the enormous disparity in crime rates (especially violent crime) has always been the elephant in the room for BLM. that has been repeated several times throughout this topic. he's a guy who openly admits to respecting slave owners more than slave descendants who'd preach self defense against that very system. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilJoe457 08/11/17 2:40:15 AM #192: |
You don't make neutral people sympathetic to your cause by isolating them cause they're white or attacking irrelevant things or ruining neighborhoods rather than taking smart action.
When you act like a terrorist organization people usually don't sympathize. --- The king of old school ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 08/11/17 2:43:21 AM #193: |
mustachedmystic posted...
The Admiral posted...Black crime (or rather, disproportionate levels of black crimes compared to other races) is most of the reason the police have the attitude towards that group that they do. Ignoring the enormous disparity in crime rates (especially violent crime) has always been the elephant in the room for BLM. Can you give proof of police misconduct? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 08/11/17 2:46:44 AM #194: |
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
the circle jerk continues Fewer things bring CEman together like disdain of black social and political activism --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 08/11/17 2:49:59 AM #195: |
Also, I love how white folks in general tell on themselves when they bring up black on black crime because it tells me two things:
1. They haven't done even the barebones research into efforts to combat violence in urban communities (hell, I was in 3 after school and summer programs growing up. That's not counting sports), which means that 2. They only care about black on black crimes in the sense they can use it to silence other efforts at achieving equality black people --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/11/17 3:46:10 AM #196: |
lilJoe457 posted...
You don't make neutral people sympathetic to your cause by isolating them cause they're white or attacking irrelevant things or ruining neighborhoods rather than taking smart action. I don't see how anybody can be neutral with police brutality. regardless of the shades of the victim. if one's sense of justice is limited to which people are asking for it, they should get called out for the double standard. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 08/11/17 6:53:09 AM #197: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...the circle jerk continues What a victim. --- "They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?" http://i.imgur.com/G74y2NJ.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 08/11/17 7:47:04 AM #198: |
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
mustachedmystic posted...The Admiral posted...Black crime (or rather, disproportionate levels of black crimes compared to other races) is most of the reason the police have the attitude towards that group that they do. Ignoring the enormous disparity in crime rates (especially violent crime) has always been the elephant in the room for BLM. BLM has only ever been about white cops killing one of their own. Despite the fact that every credible study on the issue (some of which I posted up thread) has found that white cops are no more likely to use force than cops of other races. If anything they're less likely (as in that DOJ Philadelphia PD study which found that black cops were twice as likely as white cops to shoot unarmed black men in cases of threat perception failure). Despite the fact that according to the vast majority of studies (also posted up thread), black suspects are no more likely to experience force than other races when confronted/arrested by a cop. BLM's lone talking point that is backed up by some evidence are based on studies that suggest that blacks are more likely to have their cars searched after a stop (these studies often have extremely low sample sizes for white drivers that skew the stats and the differences are meager). The two DOJ reports on Ferguson and Baltimore built their whole cases around these types of studies. Now this doesn't mean that because there is no convincing evidence of systemic racism that some police departments can't be corrupt or bad (studies in the 80s and 90s found that the "neighborhood effect" and not race was likely the main reason for abusive policing), but this is not about "black lives mattering less than white lives". It's white lives that matter less here, at least as far as the media is concerned. Unless she is a white woman from an upper middle class background (see Justine Damond). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/11/17 7:54:39 AM #199: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
Also, I love how white folks in general tell on themselves when they bring up black on black crime because it tells me two things: these clowns are easily spotted because they use the same tactics and rhetoric as the people who came before them. they argue against facts with hypothetical scenarios, anecdotal evidence, and just plain playing dumb. they make claims that a quick Google search can contradict, lolololol. but these people think they shouldn't be excluded from conversations, lol --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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