Current Events > damn. Ben Shapiro absolutely slaughtered Cenk Uygur in their debate

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Bn6zux1zQ

was it supposed to be that hard to do?
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oh god that ben guy reminds me exactly of a kid in one of my poli sci classes in college lol.
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who and who
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I mean really how hard is it to demolish someone who denies a well documented genocide in a debate.
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Ben Shapiro looks and sounds like Nascar driver Jeff Gordon

Shapiro was on Rogan's podcast today. Interesting so far

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lmfao omnislasher still supports cenk?

U.S. health care has higher costs and worse outcomes than every other advanced industrial nation. why?

every other advanced industrial nation manages to provide health care for all of its citizens. why?

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Cenk Uygur is not smart. Ben Shapiro is.
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Khalpz posted...

Cenk Uygur is not smart. Ben Shapiro is.

They're both pretty stupid

The debate would be about 8 minutes shorter if you just cut out every time Cenk said "right?".
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Omnislasher posted...

U.S. health care has higher costs and worse outcomes than every other advanced industrial nation. why?

every other advanced industrial nation manages to provide health care for all of its citizens. why?

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they have smaller countries, less defense needs, healthier less obese populations, and are riding the economic wave propped up by the united states. and in the case of the NHS in the UK, they're actually not managing at all. it's not sustainable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/09/nhs-crisis-charts-show-health-service-performance-hit-record/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3434250/every-day-brings-a-new-nhs-crisis-its-time-britain-finally-had-a-grown-up-chat-about-how-to-fix-it/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/19/nhs-impossible-budget-crisis-health-trusts

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jan/11/nhs-crisis-20-hospitals-declare-black-alert-as-patient-safety-no-longer-assured

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/06/nhs-lord-carter-hospitals-wasting-millions-pounds

CrimsonRage posted...

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How progressively tolerant and non bigoted of you.
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-Gavirulax- posted...

I didn't think Cenk did that badly compared to his last couple of performances.

That being said about the only thing I agreed with him on was healthcare, if only because of how much the US sucks at it.

So I think Cenk won the first part, Shapiro the rest.

Cenk did a lot better than I expected. I do like his idea on getting money out of politics. Because you work for who pays you. If you're paid millions by donors, then you work for the donors, not the public.

I really just expected Cenk to scream buzzwords at Ben, but he didn't.

His speaking mannerisms are annoying right? He ends every sentence with the same word right? Of cooooooooooooooourse!
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_Nihilism_ posted...

Khalpz posted...

Cenk Uygur is not smart. Ben Shapiro is.

They're both pretty stupid

You don't want to bark up that tree against Shapiro. He'll demolish any one on the left.

_Nihilism_ posted...

Khalpz posted...

Cenk Uygur is not smart. Ben Shapiro is.

They're both pretty stupid

I understand why you may not like him, but why do you think Shapiro's not smart? Well I guess if he were smarter he would be more well liked and less like he is. But isn't not giving a fuck in a debate a good thing?
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-Gavirulax- posted...

I didn't think Cenk did that badly compared to his last couple of performances.

That being said about the only thing I agreed with him on was healthcare, if only because of how much the US sucks at it.

So I think Cenk won the first part, Shapiro the rest.

Yup. I don't see any slaughter at all. They're both pretty knowledgeable and got good points in.
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If shapiro was smart he wouldn't fire off debunked right wing fallacies every time he opened his mouth lol.
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lilORANG posted...

If shapiro was smart he wouldn't fire off debunked right wing fallacies every time he opened his mouth lol.

hmm interesting - can you cite specific examples of this? I always see shapiro as someone who is pretty intellectually honest. I'm interested in seeing what fallacies he is using.

CrimsonRage posted...

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Khalpz posted...

_Nihilism_ posted...

Khalpz posted...

Cenk Uygur is not smart. Ben Shapiro is.

They're both pretty stupid

I understand why you may not like him, but why do you think Shapiro's not smart? Well I guess if he were smarter he would be more well liked and less like he is. But isn't not giving a fuck in a debate a good thing?

Because, like many, he actually thinks political solutions come from a left vs right debate, which is counterproductive.

I will say he got quite a bit of my respect when he left Breitbart because Lewandowski slammed that reporter.

Transcendentia posted...

less defense needs

yup let the poor die at home for hegemony abroad

pretty open secret there

hope you feel proud about your priorities

-Gavirulax- posted...

Piersons_Fox posted...

I really just expected Cenk to scream buzzwords at Ben, but he didn't.

His speaking mannerisms are annoying right? He ends every sentence with the same word right? Of cooooooooooooooourse!

Pressingly, I expected him to pretty much rattle off the regressive agenda with every single point (his Nephew, Hasan, sure as fuck did earlier) - the amount of times he made it about "white people" or "white supremacy" was insane.

Of the TYT debates....

Ana vs Coulter - I think Ana did well, though she got a little pretentious.
Hasan vs conservative - Hasan lost on absolutely every single point.
Cenk vs Ben - I think Ben won, but Cenk started off very well.

Ann vs Ana was terrible. I think they had more interesting topics than Cenk vs Ben, but they were both fucking terrible.

Ana just bitched about cops killing black kids, Ann just bitched about illegal aliens killing black kids. Neither one gives two shits about the black kids actually being killed. They're just using them to demonize a group they hate.
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Omnislasher posted...

Transcendentia posted...

less defense needs

yup let the poor die at home for hegemony abroad

pretty open secret there

hope you feel proud about your priorities

huh? you gonna address my post or

I called that long before the debate stated.... and I doubt anyone believed Cenk held a chance at all.
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two of your other 'points' are irrelevant and the other is laughable. don't care about UK

i addressed the one where you inadvertently make your real case.

kill the poor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I

Cenk was just avoiding the question and then bringing up points from before to deflect
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CrimsonRage posted...

If I wanted to watch a Turk and Jew yell at each other, I'd go to a New York Deli.

Coffee shop just outside of downtown in my town is run by a Turk. Nice guy, too...although it is kinda easy to get him going on certain topics.
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Omnislasher posted...

two of your other 'points' are irrelevant and the other is laughable. don't care about UK

i addressed the one where you inadvertently make your real case.

kill the poor!

seek help

Omnislasher posted...

Transcendentia posted...

less defense needs

yup let the poor die at home for hegemony abroad

pretty open secret there

hope you feel proud about your priorities

The poor huh? That includes the poor, fat, and stupid. Yes blame the government for not taking care of everyone.

Say nothing about those who will absolutely not take care of themselves. I know a 30 year old man with 2 kids who is on ssi for mental health issues. And he's really just a lazy, unmotivated man who sleeps and does drugs all day. Bullshit

Why are those of us who work and punish our bodies expected to give up our money to some of these fat disgusting slobs who wallow in self pity and eat their feelings? Universal health care is a horrible idea, and is barely working in th smaller countries it exists in. Gee do you suppose it would be a nightmare to implement in the US? So they can waste even more of my money on the lawsuits, over charged care, billed for unnecessary services and the million ways people fuck the government over in these scams?

Proly sounds great when you're poor or don't have a job. Yea, free shit! It costs those of us who have our lives together. No, I don't want to help a lot of these people. I've seen too much to feel bad for many, they just fuck their lives up. Not my fault you eat fast food every day

Omnislasher posted...

two of your other 'points' are irrelevant and the other is laughable. don't care about UK

i addressed the one where you inadvertently make your real case.

kill the poor!

Are you an adult? I can't tell.

A true battle of the minds.
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yep

I think Cenk definitely lost about halfway through when he started insulting the audience.

Wouldn't say "slaughtered" though

Keith_Valentine posted...

i get it, man. times are tough, it's frustrating. and you're confused and don't know who to blame. you're not alone.

Cenk doesn't deny the Armenian genocide. He may have a long time ago (definitely said some dumb things about it), but not to this day.
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Proto_Spark posted...

I think Cenk definitely lost about halfway through when he started insulting the audience.

Wouldn't say "slaughtered" though

Honestly, that moment was so excessively cringeworthy and dumb that it killed his credibility. He does make a few good points, but anybody who's in that line of business can say some degree of viable things...
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I do know who to blame, and Im not alone. You're not better than me.

Keith_Valentine posted...

Universal health care is a horrible idea, and is barely working in th smaller countries it exists in.

actually it's working pretty great

Where? Says who? Don't say Finland, for your sake.

How is it not working well?

Is it working better than our system?
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Keith_Valentine posted...

Where? Says who? Don't say Finland, for your sake.

sad

Ben Shapiro is one of the biggest troll shit posters in history. He probably posts here, honestly.
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