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UnfairRepresent 08/01/17 1:25:27 PM #1:	The precipitous drop in costs for renewable energy technology—even from prices a few years ago—means that carbon emissions may decrease faster and hit the targets earlier than those envisioned by the Paris Climate Agreement. Here are three technologies making that happen: 1. Solar – the average price of a MWh of electricity from solar cells has dropped from $394 in 2009 to $55 today. Solar accounted for 39% of all new electric generating capacity last year, topping all other methods for the first time. 2. Wind – the cost of wind power has likewise dropped dramatically, from an average of $135 per megawatt-hour in 2009 to $47. Wind energy is currently generated in 41 of the 50 U.S. states, with capacity of 82,000 megawatts, double the amount 6 years ago. 3. Electric Vehicles (EVs) – the changes in EV availability, cost, range and customer acceptance are remarkable. EVs like the Tesla 3 and Chevy Bolt have a range of over 200 miles. Even the 25-30 mile range of many new plug-in hybrids covers over 80% of the trips most people take, with the gasoline engine available for the remainder. The cost of the new Tesla and Bolt is around $35,000, yet the average cost of a new car in the US this year is $34,000. Over 20 new EVs will be introduced in the next year, with the cost per mile for electricity usually less than half the cost of gasoline, depending on fuel costs in each area. Recharging EV batteries takes less time today; some of the newer technologies can charge batteries to 80% capacity in 30 minutes or less—which makes the growing network of recharging stations at restaurants and highway stops more pertinent. Tesla’s Model X was tested as the safest SUV ever, of any type. Without a gasoline motor or transmission, EVs can have larger ‘crumple zones’ and the batteries under the floor create a lower center of gravity reducing roll-overs. They often accelerate faster than gasoline-powered cars because of the greater range of torque in electric motors. Non-hybrid EVs also win the maintenance test since they have no transmission, engine, radiator, water pump, oil pump, etc. to service. Because of their simplicity and the reliability of electric motors, EVs may last 500,000 miles or more. While coal currently provides about 30% of US electricity, that number is declining with each passing year. In contrast, the share of renewables is growing rapidly and will surpass coal, perhaps sooner rather than later. Thus, as time goes on, EVs will be even better for the environment as their source fuel becomes cleaner. The economic momentum of renewably-powered cars is also moving governments to support the trend. India’s new policy is that the country will sell only EVs by 2030. China is singing the same tune, with new requirements and support of their own EV industry. Britain and France just announced an end to fossil fuel cars in their countries by 2040. Full ARticle: https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/goals-paris-agreement-may-met-sooner-expected/ http://media.bigshinyrobot.com/uploads/2014/04/captain_planet.jpg Crazy to think that nearly a 1/3rd of US electricity comes from coal --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:883992401] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>The precipitous drop in costs for renewable energy technology—even from prices a few years ago—means that carbon emissions may decrease faster and hit the targets earlier than those envisioned by the Paris Climate Agreement. Here are three technologies making that happen: 1. Solar – the average price of a MWh of electricity from solar cells has dropped from $394 in 2009 to $55 today. Solar accounted for 39% of all new electric generating capacity last year, topping all other methods for the first time. 2. Wind – the cost of wind power has likewise dropped dramatically, from an average of $135 per megawatt-hour in 2009 to $47. Wind energy is currently generated in 41 of the 50 U.S. states, with capacity of 82,000 megawatts, double the amount 6 years ago. 3. Electric Vehicles (EVs) – the changes in EV availability, cost, range and customer acceptance are remarkable. EVs like the Tesla 3 and Chevy Bolt have a range of over 200 miles. Even the 25-30 mile range of many new plug-in hybrids covers over 80% of the trips most people take, with the gasoline engine available for the remainder. The cost of the new Tesla and Bolt is around $35,000, yet the average cost of a new car in the US this year is $34,000. Over 20 new EVs will be introduced in the next year, with the cost per mile for electricity usually less than half the cost of gasoline, depending on fuel costs in each area. Recharging EV batteries takes less time today; some of the newer technologies can charge batteries to 80% capacity in 30 minutes or less—which makes the growing network of recharging stations at restaurants and highway stops more pertinent. Tesla’s Model X was tested as the safest SUV ever, of any type. Without a gasoline motor or transmission, EVs can have larger ‘crumple zones’ and the batteries under the floor create a lower center of gravity reducing roll-overs. They often accelerate faster than gasoline-powered cars because of the greater range of torque in electric motors. Non-hybrid EVs also win the maintenance test since they have no transmission, engine, radiator, water pump, oil pump, etc. to service. Because of their simplicity and the reliability of electric motors, EVs may last 500,000 miles or more. While coal currently provides about 30% of US electricity, that number is declining with each passing year. In contrast, the share of renewables is growing rapidly and will surpass coal, perhaps sooner rather than later. Thus, as time goes on, EVs will be even better for the environment as their source fuel becomes cleaner. The economic momentum of renewably-powered cars is also moving governments to support the trend. India’s new policy is that the country will sell only EVs by 2030. China is singing the same tune, with new requirements and support of their own EV industry. Britain and France just announced an end to fossil fuel cars in their countries by 2040. Full ARticle: https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/goals-paris-agreement-may-met-sooner-expected/ http://media.bigshinyrobot.com/uploads/2014/04/captain_planet.jpg Crazy to think that nearly a 1/3rd of US electricity comes from coal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 08/01/17 1:27:51 PM #2:	Good stuff, self regulation is always best. Think of how much money this country is saving now, not having to give other countries our money. Win-win, Trump yet again playing 4D chess. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 6 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:883992537] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>Good stuff, self regulation is always best. Think of how much money this country is saving now, not having to give other countries our money. Win-win, Trump yet again playing 4D chess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/01/17 1:29:31 PM #3:	So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:883992627] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 08/01/17 1:31:21 PM #4:	Thank you trump for getting us out of that scam --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:883992712] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>Thank you trump for getting us out of that scam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/01/17 1:31:39 PM #5:	Caution999 posted... So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless? Not really. It's not "right" to cut off your own leg because the car you're in will probably drive you to your destination anyway. No. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:883992724] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless?</quote> Not really. It's not "right" to cut off your own leg because the car you're in will probably drive you to your destination anyway. No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/01/17 1:33:29 PM #6:	It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:883992826] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/02/17 2:07:43 PM #7:	Caution999 posted... Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. That's not how basic logic works... --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:884056803] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> That's not how basic logic works...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 08/02/17 2:09:12 PM #8:	UnfairRepresent posted... Caution999 posted... Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. That's not how basic logic works... its Caution. He doesn't use logic (or his brain for that matter) <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:884056889] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> That's not how basic logic works...</quote> its Caution. He doesn't use logic (or his brain for that matter)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJ-Spiderman 08/04/17 12:52:42 AM #9:	Caution999 posted... It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. --- Trump/Pence 2016 Make America Great Again, Blue Lives Matter <cite>SSJ-Spiderman posted [p:884153985] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 08/04/17 1:07:19 AM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... Caution999 posted... So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless? Not really. It's not "right" to cut off your own leg because the car you're in will probably drive you to your destination anyway. No. Analogies are not your strong suit. Don't quit your day job. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:884154519] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless?</quote> Not really. It's not "right" to cut off your own leg because the car you're in will probably drive you to your destination anyway. No.</quote> Analogies are not your strong suit. Don't quit your day job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/04/17 2:49:48 AM #11:	Says the sigless user --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:884157713] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>Says the sigless user</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 08/04/17 9:14:59 AM #12:	UnfairRepresent posted... Says the sigless user You're god damn right. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:884166372] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Says the sigless user</quote> You're god damn right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Life Sympathy 08/04/17 9:16:24 AM #13:	UnfairRepresent posted... Says the sigless user Says the lowly Icon user. --- We're surrounding you. We see you, but you probably don't see us. And if you see us, we're not letting on that we see you. <cite>Life Sympathy posted [p:884166418] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Says the sigless user</quote> Says the lowly Icon user.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 08/04/17 9:19:05 AM #14:	So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:884166513] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/04/17 9:20:40 AM #15:	UnfairRepresent posted... Crazy to think that nearly a 1/3rd of US electricity comes from coal a few decades down the road, our descendents will look back at us and think that we were totally fucking insane for burning this shit because of all the different uses it has. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:884166578] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Crazy to think that nearly a 1/3rd of US electricity comes from coal</quote> a few decades down the road, our descendents will look back at us and think that we were totally fucking insane for burning this shit because of all the different uses it has.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/04/17 9:22:11 AM #16:	TheVipaGTS posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Caution999 posted... Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. That's not how basic logic works... its Caution. He doesn't use logic (or his brain for that matter) Says the guy that wanted police officers to shoot at a sinking car with drowned teens inside (who stole the car) so there was a "chance" they could live. Then Vipa would've been the first one to say "OMG POLICE BRUTALITY!! WHY DID THEY HAVE TO SHOOT THEM BEFORE THEY DIED JFC!!" --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:884166629] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> That's not how basic logic works...</quote> its Caution. He doesn't use logic (or his brain for that matter)</quote> Says the guy that wanted police officers to shoot at a sinking car with drowned teens inside (who stole the car) so there was a "chance" they could live. Then Vipa would've been the first one to say "OMG POLICE BRUTALITY!! WHY DID THEY HAVE TO SHOOT THEM BEFORE THEY DIED JFC!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 9:22:54 AM #17:	The Admiral posted... So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't. This. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884166646] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't.</quote> This. Capitalism is a wonderful thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HvE25aa 08/04/17 9:23:28 AM #18:	UnfairRepresent posted... India’s new policy is that the country will sell only EVs by 2030 That's not going to happen. <cite>HvE25aa posted [p:884166664] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>India’s new policy is that the country will sell only EVs by 2030</quote> That's not going to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/04/17 9:27:28 AM #19:	Transcendentia posted... The Admiral posted... So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't. This. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Didn't a bunch of cities and states go ahead and abide by the accords anyways? Seems like government is still the responsible party here, and not the free market. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:884166793] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't.</quote> This. Capitalism is a wonderful thing.</quote> Didn't a bunch of cities and states go ahead and abide by the accords anyways? Seems like government is still the responsible party here, and not the free market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/04/17 9:28:41 AM #20:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Transcendentia posted... The Admiral posted... So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't. This. Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Didn't a bunch of cities and states go ahead and abide by the accords anyways? Seems like government is still the responsible party here, and not the free market. It was also the leftist governments, struggling against the regressive right to be successful as always. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:884166843] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote> So it turns out excessive government regulation and billions of dollars in welfare to China isn't needed to help curtail global warming. Interesting. The free market seems to have accompished what leftists couldn't.</quote> This. Capitalism is a wonderful thing.</quote> Didn't a bunch of cities and states go ahead and abide by the accords anyways? Seems like government is still the responsible party here, and not the free market.</quote> It was also the leftist governments, struggling against the regressive right to be successful as always.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 9:30:06 AM #21:	lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884166892] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/04/17 9:31:32 AM #22:	Transcendentia posted... lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement. And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:884166936] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement.</quote> And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drowning__Fish_ 08/04/17 9:32:10 AM #23:	I'll admit that purposely or not, Trump administration made a good call It wasn't on purpose though trump is s* --- It's okay to be a trainwreck http://i.imgur.com/WmNsY.jpg - HBKick18 <cite>Drowning__Fish_ posted [p:884166958] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>I'll admit that purposely or not, Trump administration made a good call It wasn't on purpose though trump is s*</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 9:39:41 AM #24:	3rd_Best_Master posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement. And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing. https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-multi-tasking-is-killing-your-brain.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/10/08/multitasking-damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest top kek <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884167211] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement.</quote> And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing.</quote> https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-multi-tasking-is-killing-your-brain.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/10/08/multitasking-damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest top kek</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3rd_Best_Master 08/04/17 9:43:26 AM #25:	And here is where Proudclad discovers that the world is made up of more than just one person. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2.1 <cite>3rd_Best_Master posted [p:884167332] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>And here is where Proudclad discovers that the world is made up of more than just one person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 9:43:54 AM #26:	can we get the 2nd best master up in here, the 3rd one is deprecated tbqh <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884167350] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>can we get the 2nd best master up in here, the 3rd one is deprecated tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 08/04/17 9:45:26 AM #27:	Transcendentia posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement. And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing. https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-multi-tasking-is-killing-your-brain.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/10/08/multitasking-damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest top kek TIL one person is responsible for upholding the paris accord in all different aspects. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:884167399] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement.</quote> And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing.</quote> https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-multi-tasking-is-killing-your-brain.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/10/08/multitasking-damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest top kek</quote> TIL one person is responsible for upholding the paris accord in all different aspects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 9:46:08 AM #28:	ChromaticAngel posted... Transcendentia posted... 3rd_Best_Master posted... Transcendentia posted... lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement. And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing. https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-multi-tasking-is-killing-your-brain.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/10/08/multitasking-damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest top kek TIL one person is responsible for upholding the paris accord in all different aspects. you are becoming more illiterate as the months go by, man <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884167425] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>3rd_Best_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote>lmao what? are you two illiterate? solar, wind, and electric vehicles have been gaining more market share. that has nothing to do with what some cities said they'd do about the paris agreement.</quote> And here is where Proudclad discovered that multitasking is a thing.</quote> https://www.inc.com/larry-kim/why-multi-tasking-is-killing-your-brain.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2014/10/08/multitasking-damages-your-brain-and-career-new-studies-suggest top kek</quote> TIL one person is responsible for upholding the paris accord in all different aspects.</quote> you are becoming more illiterate as the months go by, man</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 08/04/17 9:55:28 AM #29:	Caution999 posted... It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. Then cut some military spending. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:884167763] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> Then cut some military spending.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/04/17 9:57:30 AM #30:	I wonder what it'd cost to install solar panels on my home. Get something useful out of all that fun beating down on my roof during the summer. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:884167830] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>I wonder what it'd cost to install solar panels on my home. Get something useful out of all that fun beating down on my roof during the summer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 10:21:07 AM #31:	LightHawKnight posted... Caution999 posted... It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. Then cut some military spending. at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people? <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884168810] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> Then cut some military spending.</quote> at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 08/04/17 10:22:06 AM #32:	i thought this was already known. that trumps whole thing was more an empty gesture to rally support from his base --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:884168852] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote>i thought this was already known. that trumps whole thing was more an empty gesture to rally support from his base</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 08/04/17 10:32:02 AM #33:	Transcendentia posted... LightHawKnight posted... Caution999 posted... It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. Then cut some military spending. at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people? He'd be the first one to say "That orange turd LITERALLY cut funds and now NK is firing a missile at us! WHAT AN IDIOT!" --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:884169282] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> Then cut some military spending.</quote> at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people?</quote> He'd be the first one to say "That orange turd LITERALLY cut funds and now NK is firing a missile at us! WHAT AN IDIOT!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/04/17 1:13:59 PM #34:	Transcendentia posted... LightHawKnight posted... Caution999 posted... It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. Then cut some military spending. at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people? Yes Most of the gross military spending is gross and utterly irrelevant for those goals. 10,000 more tanks means nothing, $3 screws for $20 each means nothing It's a blackhole. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:884177121] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> Then cut some military spending.</quote> at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people?</quote> Yes Most of the gross military spending is gross and utterly irrelevant for those goals. 10,000 more tanks means nothing, $3 screws for $20 each means nothing It's a blackhole.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 08/04/17 1:15:55 PM #35:	UnfairRepresent posted... Transcendentia posted... LightHawKnight posted... Caution999 posted... It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point. Then cut some military spending. at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people? Yes Most of the gross military spending is gross and utterly irrelevant for those goals. 10,000 more tanks means nothing, $3 screws for $20 each means nothing It's a blackhole. the government in general has that issue. any government department will spend money on useless shit like $100 HDMI cables just so they use up their budget each year. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:884177214] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Transcendentia posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>It is when we're in trillions of dollars in debt. Yeah, any cut is kind of needed at that point.</quote> Then cut some military spending.</quote> at a time when russia, north korea, and other countries want to stir shit up? at a time when the military spending employs so many people?</quote> Yes Most of the gross military spending is gross and utterly irrelevant for those goals. 10,000 more tanks means nothing, $3 screws for $20 each means nothing It's a blackhole.</quote> the government in general has that issue. any government department will spend money on useless shit like $100 HDMI cables just so they use up their budget each year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Edge 08/04/17 1:16:00 PM #36:	Caution999 posted... So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless? --- We're here. <cite>On_The_Edge posted [p:884177220] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/04/17 1:17:18 PM #37:	On_The_Edge posted... Caution999 posted... So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless? No not really. No one is saying that other than people too lazy to actually read. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:884177287] in Despite Tr... [t:75627371]...</cite> <quote><cite>On_The_Edge posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote>So, you're saying Trump was right in not wasting money on this idiotic agreement since we are pushing towards healthier energies regardless?</quote></quote> No not really. No one is saying that other than people too lazy to actually read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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