Current Events > Why do so many people put so much faith and trust in Triple A game publishers?

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When they've proven time and time again, they'll exploit and cash in that faith and trust with pure unfettered bullshit with pride and gusto?

When the rumors of EA making Battlefront 2's microtransactions being pay to win started flying I legitamely saw people handwaving the idea saying "EA wouldn't do that, they'll all be cosmetic and will be nothing to worry about"

While having no real self awarness about what they're talking about, this is Electronic Arts the most evil and avaricious entity in the entire game industry, who have killed many notable devs with their bullshit, and have no problems bathing in anticosumerist bullshit with glee as long as the money keeps rolling in.

Why would they NOT add pay to win microtransactions to a game people already paid upwards of 60 dollars for? People will unironically defend it and from a cold calculated business standpoint you'd have to be stupid not to

Whether it be EA, Activision, SquareEnix, Ubisoft, Warner Bros, etc, there is always someone assuming these companies will not try their hardest to fuck over consumers however they can, when they've all on more than just a handful of occasions shown they'll do whatever it takes to make money even if consumers hate it.

I just cannot fathom how someone assumes a a bunch of suits whose only loyalty is to their shareholders (other suits) give a shit about any of us or woudn't attempt to fuck us over if it meant pleasing their shareholders.
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Of course, only on CE is consumer advocacy ignored because I'm bashing your precious multibillion dollar corporations again
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then don't buy their games
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SaccharineSmile posted...

then don't buy their games

Did you read anything past the topic title? No of course not, that would require effort.

If you did, you'd realize I almost never do and the point of the topic is that people continually put their faith and trust in companies that have cashed in their faith and trust with pure unfettered bullshit for a quick profit more times than I can count
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Don't you post this like every week
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TheEvilMushroom posted...

Don't you post this like every week

I'll post it every goddamn day if I have to until the message is clear, publishers can never and should never be trusted and anyone who thinks they do anything with consumers in mind is beyond naive
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I trust Atlus because every game they put out is amazing.

The only games I buy on release are blizzard games
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ZombiePelican posted...

SaccharineSmile posted...

then don't buy their games

Did you read anything past the topic title? No of course not, that would require effort.

If you did, you'd realize I almost never do and the point of the topic is that people continually put their faith and trust in companies that have cashed in their faith and trust with pure unfettered bullshit for a quick profit more times than I can count

games are expensive to make, people need to get paid, and consumers are happy to buy their products.

if this didnt happen then there wouldnt be any video game companies

i see no problem
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Is Sniper Elite 4 a AAA game? They do good if you ask me, the company I mean.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

I trust Atlus because every game they put out is amazing.

They aren't a triple A developer or publisher.

JE19426 posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I trust Atlus because every game they put out is amazing.

They aren't a triple A developer or publisher.

Aren't they? I would have thought Persona 5 counted as a triple A game with all the time and polish that went into it

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I trust Atlus because every game they put out is amazing.

Atlus aren't a Triple A publisher.

leverageblargh posted...

MeltdownPelican

This isn't a meltdown, but keep reaching.

thronedfire2 posted...

The only games I buy on release are blizzard games

Blizzard are literally merged with Activision, they're just as anticonsumer and avaricious as Activision. Stop making excuses for multibillion dollar corporations

SaccharineSmile posted...

games are expensive to make

And whose fault and problem is that? Publishers, not ours.


SaccharineSmile posted...

people need to get paid,

No, suits who are already wealthy don't need to constantly double and triple dip from the same well of users, the ones who actually deserve to get paid, the developers are actually getting paid base salaries.


SaccharineSmile posted...

are happy to buy their products.

No, consumers are not happy go constantly deal with jumping through hoops to show our loyalty to publishers post purchase and being constantly nickel and dimed to try and please their insatiable avarice.


SaccharineSmile posted...

if this didnt happen then there wouldnt be any video game companies

The indie market says otherwise, hell the gaming industry pre gen 7 says otherwise
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consumers are happy

Gta online has made over $1 billion in transactions
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I highly doubt BF2 will be pay to win micro transactions. It'll prolly be similar to battlefield 1 battlepacks which is just cosmetic shit
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SaccharineSmile posted...

consumers are happy

Gta online has made over $1 billion in transactions

Consumers aren't happy you deluded corporate shill. Even publishers aren't happy because in this industry making SOME money is considered a failure, and making more money tham you've ever seen in your life is the only measure of success.

Look at Strauss Zelnick the CEO of Take Two, Rockstar's parents company, like you said GTA online made almost a billion dollars in microtransactions ALONE and what was his reaction to this?

It's. Not. Enough. in fact he claims they're "under monetizing " their consumer base.
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oh are you one of those people who cries about loot boxes in Overwatch?
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glitteringfairy posted...

I highly doubt BF2 will be pay to win micro transactions. It'll prolly be similar to battlefield 1 battlepacks which is just cosmetic shit

Why not? CoD is pretty much has pay to win microtransactions, you don't actually believe EA wouldn't stoop to Activision's level?
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thronedfire2 posted...

oh are you one of those people who cries about loot boxes in Overwatch?

You're goddamn right I am, because I call out anticosumerist bullshit where I see it and refuse to make excuses for the sake of making multibillion dollar corporations crying poor look good
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Conflict posted...

Why are you acting as if because you saw some people defending EA that it's suddenly not a common opinion that EA is garbage and one of the most hated publishers in the gaming industry

Because many people are willing to handwave all that bullshit when it comes to a game they make like. Hell back during E3 when I called this, everyone on CE mocked me and labeled me a troll for suggesting that Battlefront 2 would have microtransactions after EA said all DLC would be "free".

That's right, people on CE unironically assumed EA would do something to benefit consumers, even though their reputation says otherwise, but the general consensus is it's Star Wars so it's ok
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I just skimmed the OP, and maybe you aren't talking to me, but I almost never buy DLC for games. I also don't think I've ever played a game that was pay to win on top of buying the game itself.

I prefer AAA games anyway. I have found very few indie games that I actually enjoy.
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TC is being pretty abrasive / forceful about this which is probably pushing people to just instinctively disagree with him but... he's pretty much right

this sort of thing is basically how bigname companies work nowadays
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kirbymuncher posted...

TC is being pretty abrasive / forceful

I'm sorry I refuse to pull punches when it comes to bashing CE's precious multibillion dollar corporations.


kirbymuncher posted...

probably pushing people to just instinctively disagree with him but

No, CE just has this weird hate boner for me and will do anything in their power to try and say I'm not right , I've legit seen users make shit up about me on the fly for the sake of justifying their weird unjust hatred of me.

kirbymuncher posted...

he's pretty much right

I'm always, right. It just infuriates CE with their hate boner for me that they'd have to admit I'm right.


kirbymuncher posted...

this sort of thing is basically how bigname companies work nowadays

And they do it because they WANT to not because they HAVE to contrary to what certain corproate thralls on CE will tell you
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leverageblargh posted...

This is true about most of topics though, especially my ones about Nintendo. Almost every prediction I made about the Wii U years ago had come true but CE will never admit it because of their unjust and strange hatred of me
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ZombiePelican posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

oh are you one of those people who cries about loot boxes in Overwatch?

You're goddamn right I am, because I call out anticosumerist bullshit where I see it and refuse to make excuses for the sake of making multibillion dollar corporations crying poor look good

I've never bought a loot box and I have multiple legendary skins for every hero except the newest one
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thronedfire2 posted...

I've never bought a loot box and I have multiple legendary skins for every hero except the newest one

Congrats on missing the point.
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leverageblargh posted...

lmfao

Way to solidify my point
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ZombiePelican posted...

thronedfire2 posted...

I've never bought a loot box and I have multiple legendary skins for every hero except the newest one

Congrats on missing the point.

there is no point, people don't have to spend money on loot boxes ever unless they want to.

It's not game developers faults if people can't control how they spend money
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AAA games are usually the most fun
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thronedfire2 posted...

there is no point, people don't have to spend money on loot boxes ever unless they want to.

Yes there is, it doesn't matter if you don't technically have to buy them but publishers WANT you to buy them, and will continue go to try and goad you into buying them.


thronedfire2 posted...

It's not game developers faults if people can't control how they spend money

How is it not when that's what they hope for? Publishers would rather you spend money on lootboxes forever and NOT get that precious skin you want than just give it to you or buy it.

Stop making excuses for the greed of suits who run publishers
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Asherlee10 posted...

> Posts abrasive opinion about the gaming industry

Nothing I posted was an opinion, it's all solid facts.

Publishers who insist you put your faith and trust in them have cashed in that faith and trust with unfettered bullshit with alarming regularity and yet people STILL put their faith and trust in them still, why?

Asherlee10 posted...

> insults people when they do engage

I have done no such thing, every response in this topic from me has been a well thought out and detailed paragraph detailing why they are wrong for trusting publishers.

I'm sorry you get insulted whem someone bashes your precious multibillion dollar corporations but that's not my problem
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I don't know how you can look at your attitude in this topic and think CE's hatred of you is unjust lol
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it's like how could you care about expressing something so pointless on a message board

maor like meltdownican
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kirbymuncher posted...

I don't know how you can look at your attitude in this topic and think CE's hatred of you is unjust lol

There is absolutely nothing wrong with my attitude. The bias towards me comes from the fact that I hate Nintendo on NintendoFAQs, and they hate the fact I'm almost always right on these subjects.


Asherlee10 posted...

No kidding. The thing is, he sometimes brings up really good points.

I ALWAYS bring up good points, except you try to handwave them away almost every time and I don't let that shit fly


Asherlee10 posted...

But that's overshadowed by his attitude and abrasiveness

I'm sorry but "abrasiveness" isn't a good enough excuse to just throw my entire argument out the window, shit doesn't work that way.


Asherlee10 posted...

It's nearly impossible to have a decent discussion with him

Irony, coming from the person who defended microtransactions in full priced games by comparing long grindy experiences designed to test your wallet vs your patience to Skyrim being long


Asherlee10 posted...

Which is sad, because it would be nice to have a solid discussion about the state of the gaming industry with someone who has done that amount of research.

Pfffft, you'd lose track of what I'd be saying and just resort to handwaving attempts and spouting buzzwords like always.

Virus731 posted...

it's like how could you care about expressing something so pointless on a message board

Stop talking about the gaming industry on a gaming message board
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Asherlee10 posted...

It is sincerely baffling to me that, if you are serious, you honestly can't see how your attitude and abrasiveness prohibits others from having a decent discussion with you.

You aren't worthy of a decent discussion
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ZombiePelican posted...

glitteringfairy posted...

I highly doubt BF2 will be pay to win micro transactions. It'll prolly be similar to battlefield 1 battlepacks which is just cosmetic shit

Why not? CoD is pretty much has pay to win microtransactions, you don't actually believe EA wouldn't stoop to Activision's level?

Pretty much everyone has risen above Activision's level at this point, so no. EA finally joined the club and got away from paid multiplayer expansions.
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Asherlee10 posted...

I don't think the opinion of someone who steadily insults people instead of having a discussion

I love when users make shit up about me, let's me know I'm not forgotten.

Point where and when exactly I've "steadily insulted" someone.


Asherlee10 posted...

like an adult has enough weight to say who is or isn't 'worthy' of discussion.

Says the person physically incapable of forming a cohesive argument that doesn't rely on handwaving
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NuclearPelican
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hockeybub89 posted...

Pretty much everyone has risen above Activision's level at this point, so no. EA finally joined the club and got away from paid multiplayer expansions.

But pay to win microtransactions are somehow better?
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