Current Events > Banning transgenders from military service is disgraceful.

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Glass_Phantom
07/26/17 5:57:14 PM
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Every patriotic American who is qualified to serve should be able to serve. End of story.

Once again, as before with racial integration of the military and gay people in the military, certain people in our country are grasping at flimsy straws to justify discriminating against a minority they find unappealing. Transgenderism is not a psychiatric condition or a mental disorder, it is an identity people are born with and can't do anything about. We can't go on sweeping them under a rug and pretending they need psychiatric help, because they don't. What they need is acceptance, and an end to prejudice and discrimination.

Looking forward to the day when all Americans, especially my fellow Christians, learn to embrace each other with love. Not disdain.
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whitelytning
07/26/17 6:00:00 PM
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Yay, more transgender topics!!

Just what CE needs.
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L0Z
07/26/17 6:00:07 PM
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What about people who self identify as cyborgs? Should the military pay for surgeries to make bionic soldiers just because someone feels like they should be a cyborg?

They should be allowed to join but the department of defense shouldn't have to use tax payer dollars for trans surgeries
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Questionmarktarius
07/26/17 6:03:28 PM
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So, um, when are type-1 diabetics going to be allowed in the army?
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CruelBuffalo
07/26/17 6:03:37 PM
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L0Z posted...
What about people who self identify as cyborgs? Should the military pay for surgeries to make bionic soldiers just because someone feels like they should be a cyborg?

Are doctors recommending this? No? Then shut up
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Colorahdo
07/26/17 6:03:49 PM
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First fat people, then sick people, now trans people? It's like they want healthy males or something
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Questionmarktarius
07/26/17 6:04:28 PM
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L0Z posted...
What about people who self identify as cyborgs? Should the military pay for surgeries to make bionic soldiers just because someone feels like they should be a cyborg?

Hell, they should be actively recruited.
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Axiom
07/26/17 6:05:20 PM
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L0Z posted...
What about people who self identify as cyborgs? Should the military pay for surgeries to make bionic soldiers just because someone feels like they should be a cyborg?

I'm pretty sure Trump who wants increased military spending would jump at the chance to create a cyborg
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Chicken
07/26/17 6:06:16 PM
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Colorahdo posted...
First fat people, then sick people, now trans people? It's like they want healthy males or something


Careful, the TDF will mass report you. They don't like when logic is brought into the argument.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/26/17 6:07:25 PM
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There has never been a single open transgender in the military
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Steve Nick
07/26/17 6:08:34 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Every patriotic American who is qualified to serve should be able to serve. End of story.

Once again, as before with racial integration of the military and gay people in the military, certain people in our country are grasping at flimsy straws to justify discriminating against a minority they find unappealing. Transgenderism is not a psychiatric condition or a mental disorder, it is an identity people are born with and can't do anything about We can't go on sweeping them under a rug and pretending they need psychiatric help, because they don't. What they need is acceptance, and an end to prejudice and discrimination.

Looking forward to the day when all Americans, especially my fellow Christians, learn to embrace each other with love. Not disdain.


I bolded the keyword. People with mental health issues aren't qualified.
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muchdran
07/26/17 6:09:57 PM
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The military is not a social experiment.
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gamer167
07/26/17 6:14:55 PM
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It's more of a burden to accommodate one transgender person in the military than that individual could ever be worth to the organization.
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Glass_Phantom
07/26/17 6:23:09 PM
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Steve Nick posted...
I bolded the keyword. People with mental health issues aren't qualified.


Transgenderism isn't caused by a lack of mental health. And people aren't born identifying as cyborgs.
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The Admiral
07/26/17 6:25:57 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Transgenderism is not a psychiatric condition or a mental disorder, it is an identity people are born with and can't do anything about. We can't go on sweeping them under a rug and pretending they need psychiatric help, because they don't.


If transgenders are not transitioning and don't want/need SRS, then I see any reason to ban them -- they're no different from any other soldier and don't have any special needs beyond anyone else.

However, once someone starts a hormone regimen and needs/wants SRS to avoid feelings of depression or dysphoria, being transgender goes from "an identity" to a full-blown medical condition. The military cannot guarantee troops will have a steady supply of hormones on deployment, so I have no problem banning these folks like the military bans several dozen other types of medical conditions.

And going by Trump's comments about medical costs, he's obviously only talking about people who are/want to transition sexes.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/26/17 6:27:47 PM
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Why aren't there any transgender monkeys?!?!?!
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Chicken
07/26/17 6:30:52 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Steve Nick posted...
I bolded the keyword. People with mental health issues aren't qualified.


Transgenderism isn't caused by a lack of mental health. And people aren't born identifying as cyborgs.


Link your PhD pls.
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Vaati_Reborn
07/26/17 6:35:35 PM
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L0Z posted...
What about people who self identify as cyborgs? Should the military pay for surgeries to make bionic soldiers just because someone feels like they should be a cyborg?

lmao the military would probably fucking love this
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Glass_Phantom
07/26/17 6:50:32 PM
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Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

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CADE FOSTER
07/26/17 6:51:41 PM
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Axiom
07/26/17 6:55:33 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/26/17 7:04:01 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

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LOL get fucking OWNED redhats!!
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stekim40
07/26/17 7:05:08 PM
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muchdran posted...
The military is not a social experiment.


^This.

Trump is a buffoon, but this was the correct call. like it or not
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Duncanwii
07/26/17 7:07:02 PM
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stekim40 posted...
muchdran posted...
The military is not a social experiment.


^This.

Trump is a buffoon, but this was the correct call. like it or not

No, no it wasn't. Stripping Citizens of their rights is never the right call and the sooner conservatives realize that the sooner the world will be a better place.
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Yazarogi
07/26/17 7:09:27 PM
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Transgenders can operate drone weaponry just fine... why would we bar them from all forms of military instead of throwing them in support roles if the physical requirements is such an issue?

Clearly this is just a prejudiced choice done to appease red hats. It's disgusting really. Some 5,000 troops are transgender in the military, that's quite few bodies willing to lay down their lives for the freedoms you redhats no longer wish to show any merit toward.
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Dash_Harber
07/26/17 7:10:02 PM
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Why do people keep saying, "It's going to cost lives!"?

I mean, did I miss the military tactic where everyone whips out their penises and waves them at the enemy until they submit?

Edit: "IT'S NOT WORKING! THEY ARE STILL SHOOTING US! DAMNIT JOHNSON! WHERE IS YOUR WILLY!?!?"
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Haldol
07/26/17 7:13:34 PM
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Don't care
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Chicken
07/26/17 7:44:08 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

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Could've been from google or someone that isn't even you. Sorry.
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MarqueeSeries
07/26/17 7:47:09 PM
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I have no misconception about whether or not Trump has a noble cause for barring transgender people from serving.

But, when you look at suicide rates among veterans and transgenders, maybe it doesn't seem like such a great idea at the moment
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LittleRoyal
07/26/17 7:48:27 PM
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They don't know what it do with it is all
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chrono625
07/26/17 7:49:07 PM
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if transgenderism isn't a mental condition, then the medication and surgery shouldn't be covered by insurance and should be paid out of pocket in full. Feel free to serve, but don't expect the government to pay for the treatments.

if transgenderism is a mental condition, it should be covered BUT if it is labeled a condition you would be disqualified from joining the military given how they disqualify many people for much less.

which is it?
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ThePrinceFish
07/26/17 7:49:44 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
stekim40 posted...
muchdran posted...
The military is not a social experiment.


^This.

Trump is a buffoon, but this was the correct call. like it or not

No, no it wasn't. Stripping Citizens of their rights is never the right call and the sooner conservatives realize that the sooner the world will be a better place.

The right to serve in the armed forces is right there next to your right to health insurance.
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MarqueeSeries
07/26/17 7:52:05 PM
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Also, while it's not perfect, gender dysphoria is still listed in the dsm v btw
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Glass_Phantom
07/26/17 7:57:32 PM
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Chicken posted...
Could've been from google or someone that isn't even you. Sorry.


@Chicken

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JagerBomberz
07/26/17 7:57:37 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

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Who gets a PHd in Philosophy? Lmfao
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Chicken
07/26/17 8:01:28 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Could've been from google or someone that isn't even you. Sorry.


@Chicken

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Could still belong to your great uncle Henry. Sorry.

JagerBomberz posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

5vE0eBd


Who gets a PHd in Philosophy? Lmfao


Same people that would get an English degree.
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Phantom_Nook
07/26/17 8:03:13 PM
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Why are trans people unqualified for military service all of a sudden?

That wasn't the case yesterday.
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I4NRulez
07/26/17 8:05:31 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Why are trans people unqualified for military service all of a sudden?

That wasn't the case yesterday.


Why were blacks?
Why were gays?
Why were/are women?

Apparently soldiers are distracted very easily
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Chicken
07/26/17 8:05:56 PM
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-Gavirulax- posted...
Chicken posted...
Colorahdo posted...
First fat people, then sick people, now trans people? It's like they want healthy males or something


Careful, the TDF will mass report you. They don't like when logic is brought into the argument.


Given the % of transgender people in society, I've never understood the vast media hype over this.



CE has a more skewed difference in percentage methinks.
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/26/17 8:07:59 PM
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Chicken posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Could've been from google or someone that isn't even you. Sorry.


@Chicken

JQ0pZt6


Could still belong to your great uncle Henry. Sorry.

JagerBomberz posted...
Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Link your PhD pls.


@Chicken

5vE0eBd


Who gets a PHd in Philosophy? Lmfao


Same people that would get an English degree.


Lmao. Holy shit the amount of redhats being dumb in this topic is off the charts. What the hell do you think PhD even stands for, genius.
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Santorin
07/26/17 8:09:59 PM
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Glass_Phantom posted...
Chicken posted...
Could've been from google or someone that isn't even you. Sorry.


@Chicken

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Literally the most pathetic post I've ever seen. This is cringe worthy as ****. Is This guy serious omg.
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thompsontalker7
07/26/17 8:12:01 PM
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>Post yur degree
>Obliges
>OMG fake
>Timestamp
>Smh so pathetic

Idk some of y'all have issues
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Chicken
07/26/17 8:14:13 PM
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whats a redhat lmao
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COVxy
07/26/17 8:14:42 PM
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JagerBomberz posted...
Who gets a PHd in Philosophy? Lmfao


Can't be a serious post.
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Axiom
07/26/17 8:14:50 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
>Post yur degree
>Obliges
>OMG fake
>Timestamp
>Smh so pathetic

Idk some of y'all have issues

Not really surprising. Trump supporters' disdain for higher education has been made quite obvious. His voter base is both predictable and utterly ignorant
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Malcolm_Caradoc
07/26/17 8:15:28 PM
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Chicken posted...
whats a redhat lmao


What does PhD stand for

I'll wait!
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Chicken
07/26/17 8:15:56 PM
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Chicken posted...
whats a redhat lmao


What does PhD stand for

I'll wait!


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Duncanwii
07/26/17 8:17:14 PM
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Malcolm_Caradoc posted...
Chicken posted...
whats a redhat lmao


What does PhD stand for

I'll wait!

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Transcendentia
07/26/17 8:17:43 PM
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yall know that Glass Phantom is a troll, right?
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