Current Events > anyone here try the Keto diet? how long does it take for your body to clear out

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all the stored sugar?

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8 weeks
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I've been on and off it for a while now. The very first time when I was serious about it, It took about two weeks for me not to feel like crap and crave sugar.
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WhinyZach posted...

it's a good diet to lose weight, in the end it's just calorie restriction.

doesnt seem like a calorie restriction. my friend eats so much bacon and cheese it's insane

don't bother with meme diets dude

how is cutting out sugar a meme

AlternativeFAQS posted...

doesnt seem like a calorie restriction

If you're not at a calorie deficit you aren't losing weight. Every (working) diet is going to come down to calories in calories out, but the dumb ones like keto make you cut out beneficial macronutrients for absolutely no reason.

AlternativeFAQS posted...

how is cutting out sugar a meme

You're cutting all carbs on keto.

I've done the diet for two years now (with some breaks in that time). It works wonders. It just comes down to willpower. Calories in, calories out still applies, obviously, but as long as you're in ketosis, your body will be using stored fat for energy instead of carbs, so you'll still be losing weight as long as you're not eating like 2,500 calories a day.

Don't listen to people who say it's just as effective as calories in, calories out non-keto. Good luck if you're seriously going to try this diet, and feel free to @ me any time you want advice on it.
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The Eternal Flame posted...

Don't listen to people who say it's just as effective as calories in, calories out non-keto.

yeah fuck nutrition

@The_Eternal_Flame if pizza and pasta are my favorite foods how hard will this be ._.

AlternativeFAQS posted...

@The_Eternal_Flame if pizza and pasta are my favorite foods how hard will this be ._.

Extremely hard, you're restricting yourself from something that's nutritionally beneficial because it "burns the fat" just like something you'd see on an infomercial.

Learn how nutrition works instead of blindly following stupid diets. Saying carbs are bad is just like saying keto is bad because of all the fat.

what's beneficial about pizza?

Broseph_Stalin posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

@The_Eternal_Flame if pizza and pasta are my favorite foods how hard will this be ._.

Extremely hard, you're restricting yourself from something that's nutritionally beneficial because it "burns the fat" just like something you'd see on an infomercial.

Learn how nutrition works instead of blindly following stupid diets. Saying carbs are bad is just like saying keto is bad because of all the fat.

You're not The_Eternal_Flame
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Stay hydrated. Expect to drink way more water. That's all I can recommend.

That aside, I didn't even last 48 hours. The withdrawal was horrific.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

what's beneficial about pizza?

The type of pizza we typically eat? Nothing, you're going to have to cut that out with any healthy diet. But there are healthy variations of everything, with keto you cut it out completely.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

what's beneficial about pizza?

The type of pizza we typically eat? Nothing, you're going to have to cut that out with any healthy diet. But there are healthy variations of everything, with keto you cut it out completely.

can you give an example of something they cut out that they shouldnt?

You a big ol fat virgin by chance?

AlternativeFAQS posted...

@The_Eternal_Flame if pizza and pasta are my favorite foods how hard will this be ._.

It'll be hard at first, but before too long, you won't be craving those foods. Fat takes much longer to digest, so it satiates your hunger and your cravings will go down.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

can you give an example of something they cut out that they shouldnt?

...carbs. That's what keto is, fat and protein but no carbs.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

can you give an example of something they cut out that they shouldnt?

...carbs. That's what keto is, fat and protein but no carbs.

from what ive seen most people on the diet limit carbs to 25 grams a day

AlternativeFAQS posted...

from what ive seen most people on the diet limit carbs to 25 grams a day

Which is WAAAAAY too low.

what type of health problems does that lead to?

There's not much in the way of research. It's been recommended as a treatment for pre-diabetes for years.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

what type of health problems does that lead to?

YOUR BLOOD TURNS ACIDIC!!!

well no joke, it does since the 2 ketones your body starts using as its energy source are acidic. Its probably harsher on the liver since that is the organ where the fats are broken down for the ketones.


its also more expensive per molecule since acetoacetate yields 22 atp per molecule while a single glucose will yield 36 atp
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

what type of health problems does that lead to?

Well when you look at the type of fat a lot of people on keto are eating, and the ratio of calories they're getting from it, heart disease eventually becomes a big problem.

Just remember that carbs are fuel. Keto isn't as efficient when it comes to giving you energy, you WILL feel like shit and have a harder time building muscle or doing cardio. In fact, most people seem to choose keto because they think it's a way to avoid exercise. Might as well just starve yourself if you just want to burn fat.

I thought Ketosis was really bad for you ... I remember when I was learning about my diabetes, that was something super important to watch for.

Keto can't be good for you. It should only be used as a last resort imo. Like you are morbidly obese and HAVE to lose weight.

Also going to make you smell bad and have bad breath.
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its a joke, don't do it
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Dash_Harber posted...

I thought Ketosis was really bad for you ... I remember when I was learning about my diabetes, that was something super important to watch for.

That's keto acidosis. Very dangerous, can lead to death. But pretty rare for non-diabetics. People on the keto plan go into ketosis. Still probably bad for you, but hasn't been studied well. Blood still turns acidic in ketosis, which I'm guessing isn't very good for you.
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Seems to be a lot of keto haters spreading false accusations itt
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NOM posted...

Seems to be a lot of keto haters spreading false accusations itt

Oh another follower of the cult of keto. People get really defensive about it. It's strange.
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NOM posted...

Seems to be a lot of keto haters spreading false accusations itt

Oh no someone challenged my fad diet!

didnt realize this was so divisive

idk it just seems like you guys are hating on it even though there's been plenty of research showing it can be beneficial in many ways such as lowering inflammation, brain health, lowered insulin levels, reduced cancer risk, etc.

but you guys are saying it's literally going to turn your blood into acid and fucking melt you from the inside.
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My diet consists of fats and proteins like keto but I also eat a lot of fruit and vegetables. Basically I try to avoid eating pastas and breads and things with added sugar like soda. Is this wrong?
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Aelia posted...

My diet consists of fats and proteins like keto but I also eat a lot of fruit and vegetables. Basically I try to avoid eating pastas and breads and things with added sugar like soda. Is this wrong?

do you have acid blood?

Broseph_Stalin posted...

don't bother with meme diets dude

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AlternativeFAQS posted...

Aelia posted...

My diet consists of fats and proteins like keto but I also eat a lot of fruit and vegetables. Basically I try to avoid eating pastas and breads and things with added sugar like soda. Is this wrong?

do you have acid blood?

I don't think so?
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NOM posted...

idk it just seems like you guys are hating on it even though there's been plenty of research showing it can be beneficial in many ways such as lowering inflammation, brain health, lowered insulin levels, reduced cancer risk, etc.

but you guys are saying it's literally going to turn your blood into acid and fucking melt you from the inside.

thats a joke. the blood is buffered to reduce any large swings in pH. otherwise our blood would constantly become acidic from carbon dioxide produced in the tca.
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it doesn't turn extremely acidic obviously. but it goes outside of the normal pH range of your blood. i don't think anyone thinks you'll get melted by your own blood or some stupid shit.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Just remember that carbs are fuel. Keto isn't as efficient when it comes to giving you energy, you WILL feel like shit and have a harder time building muscle or doing cardio. In fact, most people seem to choose keto because they think it's a way to avoid exercise. Might as well just starve yourself if you just want to burn fat

wrong. Learn the science bro. a biochemistry course


although some of the fat in our diets is in the form of phospholipids, triacylglycerols are a major source of fatty acids. Triacylglycerols are also our principal stored energy reserve. The energy available in stores of fat in the average person far exceeds the energy available from protein, glycogen, and glucose. Overall, fat accounts for approximately 83% of available energy, partly because more fat is stored than protein and carbohydrate and partly because of the substantially higher energy yield per gram for fat compared with protein and carbohydrate and partly because the substantially higher energy yield per gram for fat compared with protein and carbohydrate. Complete combustion of fat yields about 37 kJ/g, compared with about 16 to 17 kJ/g for sugars, glycogen, and amino acis. In animals, fat is stored mainly as triacylglycerols in specialized cells called adipocytes or adipose cells. triacylglycerols, aggregated to form large globules, occupy most volume of adipose cells. Much smaller amounts of triacyglycerols are stored as small, aggregated globules in muscle tissue
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Just remember that carbs are fuel. Keto isn't as efficient when it comes to giving you energy, you WILL feel like shit and have a harder time building muscle or doing cardio. In fact, most people seem to choose keto because they think it's a way to avoid exercise. Might as well just starve yourself if you just want to burn fat.

distinctly wrong. Fat gives 37kJ/g in combustion, aminoacids, glycogen, glucose all give 16-17 kJ/g.

and more factors come into play when it comes to burning fat then just calories. Fatty acids are mobilized from adipocytes in response to hormone messengers such as adrenaline, glucagon, and adrenocorticotropic hormone
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Xeno bringing the facts and doing the work.

Good brother Xeno
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mattnd2007 posted...

it doesn't turn extremely acidic obviously. but it goes outside of the normal pH range of your blood. i don't think anyone thinks you'll get melted by your own blood or some stupid shit.

the concentration of the ketone bodies for you go into ketoacidosis is close to 3 times that of starvation. You simply aren't going to get that solely from dieting and not something more serious like diabetes(which is where ketosis was first discovered iirc)
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Carbs are still important. Fats are important. Proteins are important.

Its a matter of eating the right Fats, Carbs, and Proteins.

Carbs found in bread/pasta are not the same as those found in broccoli.

Too much protein causes inflammation.

Low fat diets are dangerous. Mothers milk is 48% fat for good reason. And your brain is mostly fat. Also, you need cholesterol to make testosterone. A diet low in fat decreases fertility.

As a general rule, you should avoid bread, fried foods, and sugar. And increase your consumption of healthy fats.

A "cyclical ketogenic diet" is probably better than a full ketogenic diet. Just remember to eat good carbs like sweet potatoes and ditch the bad carbs like refined sugar. youll be okay.
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It is an effective diet for appetite control and that is largely it.
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