Current Events > "Gamers today only care about graphics and 60FPS"

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Lathissamus 07/23/17 9:19:39 AM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqocFElidKI --- http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:883438985] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqocFElidKI</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 07/23/17 9:20:55 AM #2:	Blast Processing! <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:883439028] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>Blast Processing!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thecoolgu 07/23/17 9:25:28 AM #3:	I actually care about the gameplay more than both of those, and I play games all the freaking time. I guess that makes me not a real gamer. --- (Insert situational remark here) <cite>thecoolgu posted [p:883439137] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>I actually care about the gameplay more than both of those, and I play games all the freaking time. I guess that makes me not a real gamer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cookie Bag 07/23/17 9:27:06 AM #4:	Well back then graphics did mean a thing, since the jump was so big (Super mario world to Super mario 64, or Final Fantasy 6 to Final Fantasy 7 for example), nowadays it's either photorealistic pieces than are capped at 30fps, of cartoony looks to cater to nostalgia but not much variation within the same styles and games. --- http://i.imgur.com/vsi41Lp.jpg <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:883439184] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>Well back then graphics did mean a thing, since the jump was so big (Super mario world to Super mario 64, or Final Fantasy 6 to Final Fantasy 7 for example), nowadays it's either photorealistic pieces than are capped at 30fps, of cartoony looks to cater to nostalgia but not much variation within the same styles and games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsucaHayashi 07/23/17 9:34:48 AM #5:	gaming and gameplay is still really limited as far as potential goes, least of all due to the weaker hardware of consoles which is why heavy scripted events on a much smaller, focused scaled are so prevalent in "AAA" games as opposed to seemingly true freedom on a grand scale like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMeqj8WG0a8 --- Not being able to land shoryuken consistently on one method of input as opposed to another is a matter of preference - zedzilla http://i.imgur.com/9Yv0R2Z.jpg <cite>AsucaHayashi posted [p:883439417] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>gaming and gameplay is still really limited as far as potential goes, least of all due to the weaker hardware of consoles which is why heavy scripted events on a much smaller, focused scaled are so prevalent in "AAA" games as opposed to seemingly true freedom on a grand scale like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMeqj8WG0a8</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 07/23/17 9:57:10 AM #6:	AsucaHayashi posted... gaming and gameplay is still really limited as far as potential goes, least of all due to the weaker hardware of consoles which is why heavy scripted events on a much smaller, focused scaled are so prevalent in "AAA" games as opposed to seemingly true freedom on a grand scale like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMeqj8WG0a8 The words "grand scale" kind of put me off personally. It seems like devs often prioritize scale over depth, which leads to shallow, boring experiences at times. I'd rather they work on improving things like AI (which is notoriously difficult to be fair), interactivity, physics, environmental detail, etc. and offer a tight, focused experience. Something on the scale of DX: Mankind Divided (putting aside its flaws for a moment) with improvements in those areas would be more my kind of thing. Also, I feel like interiors in (open world) games are often overlooked too. You have sprawling outdoor areas and only a few buildings. I'd like a non-linear game that does opposite and contains large, detailed indoor areas. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:883440133] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>AsucaHayashi posted...</cite> <quote>gaming and gameplay is still really limited as far as potential goes, least of all due to the weaker hardware of consoles which is why heavy scripted events on a much smaller, focused scaled are so prevalent in "AAA" games as opposed to seemingly true freedom on a grand scale like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMeqj8WG0a8</quote> The words "grand scale" kind of put me off personally. It seems like devs often prioritize scale over depth, which leads to shallow, boring experiences at times. I'd rather they work on improving things like AI (which is notoriously difficult to be fair), interactivity, physics, environmental detail, etc. and offer a tight, focused experience. Something on the scale of DX: Mankind Divided (putting aside its flaws for a moment) with improvements in those areas would be more my kind of thing. Also, I feel like interiors in (open world) games are often overlooked too. You have sprawling outdoor areas and only a few buildings. I'd like a non-linear game that does opposite and contains large, detailed indoor areas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 07/23/17 9:58:19 AM #7:	I posted this video the other day and nobody cared. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:883440166] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>I posted this video the other day and nobody cared.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 07/23/17 6:11:58 PM #8:	Kitt posted... I posted this video the other day and nobody cared. I care --- http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:883462477] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this video the other day and nobody cared.</quote> I care</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
untrustful 07/23/17 6:13:09 PM #9:	Kitt posted... I posted this video the other day and nobody cared. No you didn't. --- "It's as simple as A-B-C Mr. Baskin...lock your windows." "Hey, we were just getting into the significance of nuclear love!" <cite>untrustful posted [p:883462549] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this video the other day and nobody cared.</quote> No you didn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 07/23/17 6:13:15 PM #10:	Also I noticed how far less socially awkward gaming nerds were back then. --- http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:883462553] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>Also I noticed how far less socially awkward gaming nerds were back then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 07/23/17 6:13:40 PM #11:	untrustful posted... Kitt posted... I posted this video the other day and nobody cared. No you didn't. how dare someone lie --- http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:883462571] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>untrustful posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this video the other day and nobody cared.</quote> No you didn't.</quote> how dare someone lie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 07/23/17 6:18:44 PM #12:	Minecraft certainly pokes holes in that narrative. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:883462798] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>Minecraft certainly pokes holes in that narrative.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 07/24/17 9:50:01 AM #13:	untrustful posted... Kitt posted... I posted this video the other day and nobody cared. No you didn't. Yeah I did, you uncultured swine. Lathissamus posted... Kitt posted... I posted this video the other day and nobody cared. I care Thank you, TC. --- http://i.imgur.com/pmc9XsI.gif http://i.imgur.com/LkrRVe2.gifv http://i.imgur.com/Dp03g3y.jpg Cute? B**, I'm adorable. <cite>Kitt posted [p:883497572] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>untrustful posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this video the other day and nobody cared.</quote> No you didn't.</quote> Yeah I did, you uncultured swine. <cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kitt posted...</cite> <quote>I posted this video the other day and nobody cared.</quote> I care</quote> Thank you, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 07/24/17 9:57:23 AM #14:	Just PC gamers, tbh. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:883497854] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote>Just PC gamers, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 07/24/17 10:00:10 AM #15:	DevsBro posted... Just PC gamers, tbh. Then you haven't seen the PS and XB boards. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:883497949] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>Just PC gamers, tbh.</quote> Then you haven't seen the PS and XB boards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 07/24/17 10:08:27 AM #16:	DevsBro posted... Just PC gamers, tbh. not much so ever since the indie game scene blew up into mainstream - just look at PC exclusive Undertale and how Minecraft started as PC pre-release playing. --- http://s10.postimage.org/mxioonsd1/gildavatar.gif http://gifgifs.com/res/0916/57ebaeea6c7a9047727112.gif <cite>myzz7 posted [p:883498291] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>Just PC gamers, tbh.</quote> not much so ever since the indie game scene blew up into mainstream - just look at PC exclusive Undertale and how Minecraft started as PC pre-release playing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi13579 07/24/17 10:40:32 AM #18:	myzz7 posted... not much so ever since the indie game scene blew up into mainstream - just look at PC exclusive Undertale and how Minecraft started as PC pre-release playing. Yeah, I find that it's the opposite honestly. Of course, you have those "PC master race" people, but for the most part, PC gamers don't seem to mind playing older or graphically weak games (although admittedly, it can be more difficult to do that with consoles), and are often denigrated for it by console gamers ("lol, imagine paying all that money for a PC and playing League of Legends" or "lol, we already played that game 10 years ago"). AAA games aren't as popular on PC for the most part (although the greater choice and piracy probably contribute to an extent). Then you have the console wars of course. The Wii and WiiU were commonly seen as underpowered, and the Switch too really. Various multiplats caused no end of arguments despite the differences being minor, like FFXIII, Red Dead Redemption, GTA V, etc. Then you have popular remasters of games that only just came out in the previous gen (The Last Of Us, GTA V, Skyrim, etc.). Then you have the video in the OP. It's only natural to justify your choice of console, especially if you're loyal to a particular brand. The PC, on the other hand, isn't under any particular brand. At the top end, the PC is so far ahead of consoles that it's not really a contest. The average PC is actually weaker than the latest consoles though. Again, I'm not saying there aren't PC gamers that care a lot about graphics (of course there are), but I just get the impression console gamers actually care that bit more, which I think is fair enough. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:883499592] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>myzz7 posted...</cite> <quote>not much so ever since the indie game scene blew up into mainstream - just look at PC exclusive Undertale and how Minecraft started as PC pre-release playing.</quote> Yeah, I find that it's the opposite honestly. Of course, you have those "PC master race" people, but for the most part, PC gamers don't seem to mind playing older or graphically weak games (although admittedly, it can be more difficult to do that with consoles), and are often denigrated for it by console gamers ("lol, imagine paying all that money for a PC and playing League of Legends" or "lol, we already played that game 10 years ago"). AAA games aren't as popular on PC for the most part (although the greater choice and piracy probably contribute to an extent). Then you have the console wars of course. The Wii and WiiU were commonly seen as underpowered, and the Switch too really. Various multiplats caused no end of arguments despite the differences being minor, like FFXIII, Red Dead Redemption, GTA V, etc. Then you have popular remasters of games that only just came out in the previous gen (The Last Of Us, GTA V, Skyrim, etc.). Then you have the video in the OP. It's only natural to justify your choice of console, especially if you're loyal to a particular brand. The PC, on the other hand, isn't under any particular brand. At the top end, the PC is so far ahead of consoles that it's not really a contest. The average PC is actually weaker than the latest consoles though. Again, I'm not saying there aren't PC gamers that care a lot about graphics (of course there are), but I just get the impression console gamers actually care that bit more, which I think is fair enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 07/24/17 11:02:09 AM #19:	luigi13579 posted... The words "grand scale" kind of put me off personally. It seems like devs often prioritize scale over depth, which leads to shallow, boring experiences at times. Really, there's something to be said for fast-paced games that can be finished in an afternoon. Not every game has to be some 100+ hour epic with no replay value luigi13579 posted... The average PC is actually weaker than the latest consoles though. All I have right now is a laptop I got in 2012 and it can barely run an N64 emulator >__> --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:883500530] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>luigi13579 posted...</cite> <quote>The words "grand scale" kind of put me off personally. It seems like devs often prioritize scale over depth, which leads to shallow, boring experiences at times.</quote> Really, there's something to be said for fast-paced games that can be finished in an afternoon. Not every game has to be some 100+ hour epic with no replay value <cite>luigi13579 posted...</cite> <quote>The average PC is actually weaker than the latest consoles though.</quote> All I have right now is a laptop I got in 2012 and it can barely run an N64 emulator >__></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lathissamus 07/24/17 4:59:47 PM #20:	HylianFox posted... luigi13579 posted... The words "grand scale" kind of put me off personally. It seems like devs often prioritize scale over depth, which leads to shallow, boring experiences at times. Really, there's something to be said for fast-paced games that can be finished in an afternoon. Not every game has to be some 100+ hour epic with no replay value luigi13579 posted... The average PC is actually weaker than the latest consoles though. All I have right now is a laptop I got in 2012 and it can barely run an N64 emulator >__> Some of my favorite games ever can be finished in under 12 hours. To put it out there, Fable: TLC is a much better game to me than Red Dead Redemption. --- http://i.imgur.com/olOXz6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kaFczn3.gif <cite>Lathissamus posted [p:883519926] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>luigi13579 posted...</cite> <quote>The words "grand scale" kind of put me off personally. It seems like devs often prioritize scale over depth, which leads to shallow, boring experiences at times.</quote> Really, there's something to be said for fast-paced games that can be finished in an afternoon. Not every game has to be some 100+ hour epic with no replay value <cite>luigi13579 posted...</cite> <quote>The average PC is actually weaker than the latest consoles though.</quote> All I have right now is a laptop I got in 2012 and it can barely run an N64 emulator >__></quote> Some of my favorite games ever can be finished in under 12 hours. To put it out there, Fable: TLC is a much better game to me than Red Dead Redemption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi13579 07/24/17 5:12:18 PM #21:	Lathissamus posted... Some of my favorite games ever can be finished in under 12 hours. To put it out there, Fable: TLC is a much better game to me than Red Dead Redemption. Super Metroid is pretty much my ultimate game and that can be finished in under an hour. The only things I'd really change are the controls (using some of the improvements in Fusion / Zero Mission) and that stupid save point at the end that's past the point of no return. Morrowind is a strange one. It can be beaten in 5 minutes (way less than even SM), but has a shit-load of content. You can play it for like 200 hours and still not discover everything lol. I love the openness of it, which goes beyond even the later games. <cite>luigi13579 posted [p:883520582] in "Game... [t:75595832]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lathissamus posted...</cite> <quote>Some of my favorite games ever can be finished in under 12 hours. To put it out there, Fable: TLC is a much better game to me than Red Dead Redemption.</quote> Super Metroid is pretty much my ultimate game and that can be finished in under an hour. The only things I'd really change are the controls (using some of the improvements in Fusion / Zero Mission) and that stupid save point at the end that's past the point of no return. Morrowind is a strange one. It can be beaten in 5 minutes (way less than even SM), but has a shit-load of content. You can play it for like 200 hours and still not discover everything lol. I love the openness of it, which goes beyond even the later games.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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