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CountessRolab
07/22/17 7:53:38 PM
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...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.
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emblem boy
07/22/17 7:55:41 PM
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They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 7:57:19 PM
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emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.
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emblem boy
07/22/17 7:57:34 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?
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Paper_Okami
07/22/17 7:57:49 PM
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emblem boy
07/22/17 7:58:35 PM
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Would you rather them be against tax cuts for the rich now while they're poor, and then if they end up being rich, being for tax cuts?
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 7:59:36 PM
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emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.
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MutantJohn
07/22/17 8:00:12 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.

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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:00:40 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.

Socialist


lol is that supposed to be an insult?
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John_Galt
07/22/17 8:00:44 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.

What point does it become ridiculous?
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Iwin2013
07/22/17 8:01:54 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.

Socialist


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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:02:42 PM
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John_Galt posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.

What point does it become ridiculous?


That is obviously subjective, but people should never get to a point where they become a god. There is a point where you make more money off investment income than you can possibly ever spend. It is a snowball effect.
The point of the estate tax is to curtail that sort of thing and avoid creating dynasties and an invincible ruling class.
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itachi15243
07/22/17 8:03:28 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Would you rather them be against tax cuts for the rich now while they're poor, and then if they end up being rich, being for tax cuts?


The likely hood of more than one percent of them becoming rich are so low, that it would make that the ideal solution.
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Mal_Fet
07/22/17 8:11:01 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
olQxJ

Meanwhile, the 80's and early 90's were a period of extreme economic growth and stability, low unemployment, and low poverty.
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 8:18:25 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.


With that kind of mindset, you'll never get rich.

You think a Democrat like Buffet is going to give you anything? You think Sanders who pays a 13.5% tax rate really was going bail you out? Dream on.
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Iwin2013
07/22/17 8:20:08 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.


With that kind of mindset, you'll never get rich.

You think a Democrat like Buffet is going to give you anything? You think Sanders who pays a 13.5% tax rate really was going bail you out? Dream on.


From his OP, I have a feeling that he's stuck up his own ass and doesn't know logic or reality.
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/22/17 8:27:51 PM
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Until you realize that a lot of rich people were actually poor at one time. Sounds like Rolab is just some lazy goof who doesn't understand the meaning of hardwork and consistency.
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:33:13 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.


With that kind of mindset, you'll never get rich.


LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.
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IfGodCouldDie
07/22/17 8:35:52 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
I have more money than the majority of people here.

Lol, you say that like anyone here is going to give a shit.
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/22/17 8:36:22 PM
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Guess what might blow your little mind rolab? Not everyone cares about getting "rich" considering the real riches are inside. some people are happy living a comfortable life with enough to get by.
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Mal_Fet
07/22/17 8:36:31 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.


With that kind of mindset, you'll never get rich.


LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.

Oh look, the guy who looks down on poor people for voting ideologically gloats about having a lot of material wealth.

No surprise; people who think like you do are often pitiful and jealous. You probably aren't even that rich.
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IfGodCouldDie
07/22/17 8:38:01 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.


With that kind of mindset, you'll never get rich.


LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.

Oh look, the guy who looks down on poor people for voting ideologically gloats about having a lot of material wealth.

No surprise; people who think like you do are often pitiful and jealous. You probably aren't even rich.

Ftfy
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:39:21 PM
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Lawlfulcoptors1 posted...
Guess what might blow your little mind rolab? Not everyone cares about getting "rich" considering the real riches are inside. some people are happy living a comfortable life with enough to get by.


roflmao
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 8:40:08 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.


Take a photo of your LV wallet. I want to see if it's as expensive as my real LV wallet.
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:41:21 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.
It is fucking brilliant how republicans sell their shit. Hope is the one emotion more powerful than fear.


With that kind of mindset, you'll never get rich.


LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.

Oh look, the guy who looks down on poor people for voting ideologically gloats about having a lot of material wealth.

No surprise; people who think like you do are often pitiful and jealous. You probably aren't even that rich.


i am well off and I am liberal. I recognize that my wealth is more or less a fluke, and I dont try to sell aspirational lies to the lower classes in an attempt to get a bit farther ahead. I am such a terrible person.
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MARKINGRAM22
07/22/17 8:41:21 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
CountessRolab posted...
emblem boy posted...
They could just be against it because of the principle of the issue. People vote against their self interest and in favor of idealogies they believe in all the time


Said ideology is equally stupid.


Why?


Because unchecked wealth accumulation eventually leads to a social collapse like in 18th century france. Not to mention the fact that it is grossly unethical.
I am all for people getting rewarded for their hard work, but there is a point at which it becomes ridiculous.


funny how you said unchecked wealth accumulation, and not capitalism. It is like you are ignoring these are highly taxed powerful central govts. and that no matter how moral these wealth distributers act the ones in charge always are ultra powerful elites rulling over mass starvation and poverty.
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Lawlfulcoptors1
07/22/17 8:42:38 PM
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This is where being spoiled gets you folks. Have fun with all that paper when all your loved ones pass away and you're stuck alone with no one to talk too.
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kingdrake2
07/22/17 8:43:12 PM
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Lawlfulcoptors1 posted...
This is where being spoiled gets you folks. Have fun with all that paper when all your loved ones pass away and you're stuck alone with no one to talk too.


forever alone.
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 8:44:40 PM
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CountessRolab posted...


i am well off and I am liberal. I recognize that my wealth is more or less a fluke, and I dont try to sell aspirational lies to the lower classes in an attempt to get a bit farther ahead. I am such a terrible person.


To redeem yourself, you should give most of your money away.
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:47:38 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.


Take a photo of your LV wallet. I want to see if it's as expensive as my real LV wallet.


Grabbed some stuff from my closet.

DMsGVtg
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Xelltrix
07/22/17 8:48:26 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
...because they think they will be rich one day lol.


I'd hardly believe any significant percent of people don't vote for it because of this reason. It's general either out of pride or belief in unfairness of continuing to hike their taxes or something else.

Like, I legitimately HIGHLY doubt people who are destitute think they're just suddenly going to be rich one day.
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Mal_Fet
07/22/17 8:48:34 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
i am well off and I am liberal. I recognize that my wealth is more or less a fluke, and I dont try to sell aspirational lies to the lower classes in an attempt to get a bit farther ahead.

Most millionaires weren't born wealthy, but rather earned it.

http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/most-wealthy-individuals-earned-not-inherited-their-wealth/

Just because you yourself didn't earn your money doesn't make that the rule ;)
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Annihilated
07/22/17 8:50:25 PM
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This is why liberals are perpetually in poverty, because they have a poor mindset. They think "if rich people have less money, that means I will have more!" because they're morons.
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literal_garbage
07/22/17 8:51:50 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
CountessRolab posted...
i am well off and I am liberal. I recognize that my wealth is more or less a fluke, and I dont try to sell aspirational lies to the lower classes in an attempt to get a bit farther ahead.

Most millionaires weren't born wealthy, but rather earned it.

http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/most-wealthy-individuals-earned-not-inherited-their-wealth/

Just because you yourself didn't earn your money doesn't make that the rule ;)

>believing polls
>2017

Pick one lmao
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:51:58 PM
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Annihilated posted...
This is why liberals are perpetually in poverty, because they have a poor mindset. They think "if rich people have less money, that means I will have more!" because they're morons.


ok
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 8:53:46 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Take a photo of your LV wallet. I want to see if it's as expensive as my real LV wallet.


Grabbed some stuff from my closet.

DMsGVtg


Of course, you're a woman. With a rich daddy / sugar daddy, but still not enough to afford a Birkin.
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 8:56:16 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Take a photo of your LV wallet. I want to see if it's as expensive as my real LV wallet.


Grabbed some stuff from my closet.

DMsGVtg


Of course, you're a woman. With a rich daddy / sugar daddy, but still not enough to afford a Birkin.


lol, my brokerage account and Amex Gold disagree with you.
also, I am a gay male
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Mal_Fet
07/22/17 8:58:33 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
Annihilated posted...
This is why liberals are perpetually in poverty, because they have a poor mindset. They think "if rich people have less money, that means I will have more!" because they're morons.


ok

Why do you believe it is when a rich person loses all their money they only stay poor for a short time, but when a poor person suddenly makes a lot of money, like through a lottery, most all of it is gone within 5 years?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/why-most-lottery-winners-end-up-losing-their-new-fortune-1.1211569

Could it be that there's more to making money than the fact that mean 'ol rich people are hoarding all of it? Wealth is not a zero-sum game, and you'll learn that very quickly as soon as your parents or whoever cut you off.
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 9:03:23 PM
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And for full disclosure, I was born into a lower middle class family, and I worked my ass off. The fact is, luck still plays a large role. You have to be in the right place at the right time. You can make all the right moves, and sill get fucked over by life.

To say that poor people just arent working hard enough is absurd. Hell, they are born with massive inerrant disadvantages. THAT is why I support lowering he ceiling and raising the floor. I am not opposed to competition and wealth accumulation--I just want a more even playing field for everyone.
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Mal_Fet
07/22/17 9:06:28 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
And for full disclosure, I was born into a lower middle class family, and I worked my ass off. The fact is, luck still plays a large role. You have to be in the right place at the right time. You can make all the right moves, and sill get fucked over by life.

Mal_Fet posted...
Why do you believe it is when a rich person loses all their money they only stay poor for a short time, but when a poor person suddenly makes a lot of money, like through a lottery, most all of it is gone within 5 years?

Turns out, in order to be in the right place at the right time, you need to be diligent about jumping on it. Nothing will ever just fall into your lap.
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 9:11:05 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...

Why do you believe it is when a rich person loses all their money they only stay poor for a short time,


Probably helps to have am extensive and powerful social network and access to capital.

Mal_Fet posted...
but when a poor person suddenly makes a lot of money, like through a lottery, most all of it is gone within 5 years?


Probably because they were never able to afford financial literacy classes?

Stop acting like rich and poor people are playing by the same rules. The game is heavily rigged to favor the wealthy. Rich people go to the best colleges and get the best jobs. Sure there are exceptions, but social mobility isnt as easy/simple as you make it out to be.
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AlternativeFAQS
07/22/17 9:13:07 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...

Take a photo of your LV wallet. I want to see if it's as expensive as my real LV wallet.


Grabbed some stuff from my closet.

DMsGVtg


Of course, you're a woman. With a rich daddy / sugar daddy, but still not enough to afford a Birkin.


lol, my brokerage account and Amex Gold disagree with you.
also, I am a gay male


tbf you could still have a sugar daddy
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 9:14:23 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
And for full disclosure, I was born into a lower middle class family, and I worked my ass off. The fact is, luck still plays a large role. You have to be in the right place at the right time. You can make all the right moves, and sill get fucked over by life.

To say that poor people just arent working hard enough is absurd. Hell, they are born with massive inerrant disadvantages. THAT is why I support lowering he ceiling and raising the floor. I am not opposed to competition and wealth accumulation--I just want a more even playing field for everyone.


You can even the playing field by giving some your money away. I don't think anyone will be oppose to that.

Life is not just about hard work. Another man can work harder than me if he spend 12 hours cleaning dishes. That is a fact. It's takes the right type of ambition with the will to learn new things for someone to truly become successful.

You can share your money with people, but you can't share your ambition and the determination for success. Money is a temporary solution, and they will remain poor once they spend it. Ambition is what keeps the rich where they are.
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 9:15:36 PM
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byron posted...
CountessRolab posted...
GreatEvilEmpire posted...
CountessRolab posted...
LOL
I have more money than the majority of people here. Me and my Louis Vuitton wallet are so hurt by your comment.
Most people dont get rich. It is a fact.


Take a photo of your LV wallet. I want to see if it's as expensive as my real LV wallet.


Grabbed some stuff from my closet.

DMsGVtg

Rekt


What? Because I'm not flamboyant and I don't want to show off?
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CountessRolab
07/22/17 9:15:38 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Ambition is what keeps the rich where they are.



LMAO, nah, I am pretty sure it is Dynasty Trusts and Dividend Reinvestment Plans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_trust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dividend_reinvestment_plan
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Mal_Fet
07/22/17 9:15:40 PM
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CountessRolab posted...
Probably helps to have am extensive and powerful social network and access to capital.

"Access to capital" means they had not lost everything. You're avoiding the question, but I expected as much.

Probably because they were never able to afford financial literacy classes?

You don't need a "financial literacy class" (such a class does not exist, fyi) to know that you should spend less than you make.

Stop acting like rich and poor people are playing by the same rules. The game is heavily rigged to favor the wealthy. Rich people go to the best colleges and get the best jobs. Sure there are exceptions, but social mobility isnt as easy/simple as you make it out to be.

Every year there are more rich people and less impoverished people. In what sense is what you say accurate? Which reality do you live in where the statistics are saying the exact opposite thing?
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AlternativeFAQS
07/22/17 9:15:46 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Ambition is what keeps the rich where they are.


also enough money for investing helps
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GreatEvilEmpire
07/22/17 9:18:39 PM
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CountessRolab posted...

LMAO, nah, I am pretty sure it is Dynasty Trusts and Dividend Reinvestment Plans.


Clearly your parents have spoiled you and didn't teach you any manners. That's something money can't buy.
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