Current Events > having low testosterone makes you feel dead

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and the government is doing its hardest to get it low and keep it low
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so does estrogen make you feel alive then
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well that's why the pharmaceutical industry exists
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Awesome posted...

and the government is doing its hardest to get it low and keep it low

I'd believe it.


myztikrice posted...

so does estrogen make you feel alive then

How the fuck does that make any sense?!
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But if it's low then it's not hard.
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literally 28 years old and having levels of a 90 year old man.

i cut out all wheat, dairy and added sugar, gmo foods, eating eggs and meat, getting midday sunlight, working out hard, and stopped watching porn and doing " that ". i cant take feeling like this anymore and it came to this point.

they want weak men.
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I had low testosterone for 14 years and I never felt dead...
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They do want beta men. That's why you have to avoid eating any pre packaged foods you can. Anything processed is to make us fat, slow, apathetic, and lazy (bench the convenience).

These people could be feeding us Soylent Green. Same with the people on tv and movies. Casting beta stars like shea lebouf. The action heroes used to be cool.
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Awesome posted...

literally 28 years old and having levels of a 90 year old man.

i cut out all wheat, dairy and added sugar, gmo foods, eating eggs and meat, getting midday sunlight, working out hard, and stopped watching porn and doing " that ". i cant take feeling like this anymore and it came to this point.

they want weak men.

Have you actually gone to a doctor about this? This sounds more psychological than anything.

Atralis posted...

Awesome posted...

literally 28 years old and having levels of a 90 year old man.

i cut out all wheat, dairy and added sugar, gmo foods, eating eggs and meat, getting midday sunlight, working out hard, and stopped watching porn and doing " that ". i cant take feeling like this anymore and it came to this point.


they want weak men.

Have you actually gone to a doctor about this? This sounds more psychological than anything.

yes, vitamin d levels so damn low due to lack of uvb ray sunlight, and eating crap poisonous foods and sitting in front of the computer watching women instead of actually touching one all the time.

when you eat trash since you were a kid it does damage to your body and you need to reverse it.
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I'm a little concerned that may be part of my problems as well. Last year my doctor said my vitamin D levels were very low, and I was given a prescription for strong vitamin D pills. I took them, and went back, but they said my keels hadn't raised much and renewed my prescription. I never finished that prescription, I think I still have a refill on it.

They never once mentioned testosterone or anything like that.
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why don't you just take a synthetic and get your levels up/?
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KogaSteelfang posted...

I'm a little concerned that may be part of my problems as well. Last year my doctor said my vitamin D levels were very low, and I was given a prescription for strong vitamin D pills. I took them, and went back, but they said my keels hadn't raised much and renewed my prescription. I never finished that prescription, I think I still have a refill on it.

They never once mentioned testosterone or anything like that.

you have to ask for it when you get your blood tested. if you are a guy and feel sad and depressed no matter what then most likely your t levels are low.
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BignutzisBack posted...

why don't you just take a synthetic and get your levels up/?

do it the natural way without messing your body up, it takes time though but in the end youll feel better.
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Awesome posted...

KogaSteelfang posted...

I'm a little concerned that may be part of my problems as well. Last year my doctor said my vitamin D levels were very low, and I was given a prescription for strong vitamin D pills. I took them, and went back, but they said my keels hadn't raised much and renewed my prescription. I never finished that prescription, I think I still have a refill on it.

They never once mentioned testosterone or anything like that.

you have to ask for it when you get your blood tested. if you are a guy and feel sad and depressed no matter what then most likely your t levels are low.

if i don't feel sad and depressed but i feel constant anger (to the point of it's haunting my dreams) and hatred towards almost everything what is my problem?
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apolloooo posted...

Awesome posted...

KogaSteelfang posted...

I'm a little concerned that may be part of my problems as well. Last year my doctor said my vitamin D levels were very low, and I was given a prescription for strong vitamin D pills. I took them, and went back, but they said my keels hadn't raised much and renewed my prescription. I never finished that prescription, I think I still have a refill on it.

They never once mentioned testosterone or anything like that.

you have to ask for it when you get your blood tested. if you are a guy and feel sad and depressed no matter what then most likely your t levels are low.

if i don't feel sad and depressed but i feel constant anger (to the point of it's haunting my dreams) and hatred towards almost everything what is my problem?

as long as you dont have suicidal or homicidal thoughts then you are okay, use that energy to grow yourself.
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I was an anti depressant for years that messed with my profolactin levels..they were like really high.

I switched to a new one and my levels normalized, but damn it's making me feel like I'm going through a second puberty. Sexually frustrated all the fucking time, I'll be sitting at the computer and start randomly looking up porn, and my facial hair and body hair are growing super fast.

I don't know how you guys do it.
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Awesome posted...

literally 28 years old and having levels of a 90 year old man.

i cut out all wheat, dairy and added sugar, gmo foods, eating eggs and meat, getting midday sunlight, working out hard, and stopped watching porn and doing " that ". i cant take feeling like this anymore and it came to this point.

they want weak men.

You didn't mention soy. Why are you still eating soy?

Also, provide sources that wheat and dairy are detrimental to testosterone levels please?
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just go on TRT and stop crying.

So while something like "low testosterone" may have the guise of appearing like a scientific or medical explanation for a range of maladies, I would take caution in attributing it to a lot of non-specific symptoms that can have a really large amount of possible explanations.

A key thing to note is that serum testosterone levels in men follows a diurnal pattern whereby it's highest in the very early morning (4-8am) and lowest in the afternoon/early evening, it's very likely that any sort of blood work performed is going to be done during the hours that it's on the lower end. This doesn't necessarily mean that it is "low", because throughout the day there can be a vast difference. Unless you've had multiple, serial measurements to really determine a pattern, it's kind of irresponsible to attribute symptoms to the "low testosterone", especially if there hasn't been a complete work up of other causes of fatigue.

And while some studies do correlate things like anemia/fatigue and depressed moods, dysfunction in libido, decreases in bone mass, etc with low testosterone, it's usually a problem in much older adults due to age-related decline. A low value in relative youth should raise concern for an underlying cause of hypogonadism.

So if you go to a provider, like a "naturopath" who touts that you have low testosterone, but you haven't had an extensive work up of why that might be the case, you're being peddled snake oil. It falls under the natural fallacy and basically uses a really basic, undergraduate-level understanding of physiology and attempts to treat pretty well known disease-processes with supplements, which if they worked, would have already been the standard of care to begin with.

Awesome posted...

you have to ask for it when you get your blood tested. if you are a guy and feel sad and depressed no matter what then most likely your t levels are low.

And so, given the above, I would encourage you to be a bit more cautious making posts like these. While your lifestyle changes about eating better and exercising are certainly habits that you should develop, making a direct causal link from a "low T" lab value from a quack doctor or fringe health profession (naturopath, chiropracter, etc) to improving it with a "natural lifestyle" and then telling others that that's the most likely cause of their problems--you're asking for someone to take that to heart and refuse to get seen by a medical professional.

Turns out, that person on the internet you told who has chronic fatigue that they just have "low T" and need to eat better had a leukemia and they didn't get it checked out early per your advice and now their death is on your hands.

You don't know what you don't know and it's better to stick to things within your expertise (which in this case isn't medicine).
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as long as you dont have suicidal or homicidal thoughts then you are okay, use that energy to grow yourself.

I do have homicidal thoughts and torture fantasy at my worst.

Never suicide, but feel like sometimes inflicting pain to others is a way to ease the pressure (never do it irl ofc becoz of i dont want to go to prison)

videogames is kinda the catharsis for me. It allows me to channel all the violent rage without rhe real life consequences
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