Current Events > I guess Norton is the best anti-virus now?

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Independent anti-virus testing organization:
https://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-10/

Has the following as a top rated product (in alphabetical order):
*Avira Antivirus Pro 15.0
*Bitdefender Internet Security 21.0
*Kaspersky Lab Internet Security 17.0
*Norton Norton Security 22.9
*Trend Micro Internet Security 11.0 & 11.1

Shame that I can only get Norton, since that's the only American company out of all those... can't trust foreign software anymore, what with all this news about how Kaspersky is filled with mobsters, government ties, etc.

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Yaridovich posted...

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Why do you say that? Norton used to be the "best", then in early/mid 2000s, got so bogged down and shitty (which led me to ditch Norton for other softwares, like Zone Alarm, Avira, Kaspersky...). But I heard (and I found through independent testing agencies) that Norton got so much better.

Paid antivirus is a scam

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

Just be prepared to have a bunch of "woke" dudes tell you that if you know what you're doing or aren't doing anything wrong than you shouldn't even worry.

lol literally not even a minute later:
TheMarthKoopa posted...

Paid antivirus is a scam

Marth is right though

Axiom posted...

Marth is right though

Why's that?

Haven't a single problem using Malwarebytes + Windows Defender. To be honest, unless your hobby involves visiting shady sites without an adblock or there's a lack of common sense, protecting your machine against viruses isn't that hard of a task.
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Malwarebytes + Windows Defender + uBlock Origin pretty much protects you from most everything.
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Printerscape posted...

Axiom posted...

Marth is right though

Why's that?

because they really don't do shit and are resource hogs

your best protection is to use shit like ublock and just good judgement, because most of the malware these days get past paid av's unless they are old as fuck. usually the end user CHOOSES to install the malware and AV's can't do shit about people being idiots.

people in the IT industry laugh at AV's, no shit

edit: also malwarebytes is now a resource hog. only install and run it if you're just running a scan, otherwise don't keep it installed. it is getting worse and worse.
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Because as others have said a combination of free apps can protect you nearly as much as paid software so unless you regularly download from shady links paid software is a waste of money

yemmy posted...

people in the IT industry laugh at AV's, no shit

I've worked for four companies, and all four had some form of AV installed on the computer...

I don't understand why you need protection. I just scan every few months and don't go on fucked sites. I suppose I'm asking for it eventually though.
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Printerscape posted...

yemmy posted...

people in the IT industry laugh at AV's, no shit

I've worked for four companies, and all four had some form of AV installed on the computer...

actual IT companies or just companies that have an IT department (or outsource their IT)?

I've worked in the IT industry for 5+ years at 2 different companies and I couldn't tell you 1 person that worked at these companies and used an AV on their personal home computer. They'd put a cracked version of paid malwarebytes on sometimes but right now that has become a resource hog as well.

The only "IT" I've ever worked where AV's were a big deal was Staples EZ tech and they'll try to sell you anything there.
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yemmy posted...

companies that have an IT department

^ That. And note, I don't work in IT.

Virus731 posted...

I don't understand why you need protection. I just scan every few months and don't go on fucked sites. I suppose I'm asking for it eventually though.

people with McAfee or norton are asking for it also is my point.

by the time McAfee or Symantec labs prevent a malware from attacking your computer it is usually too late. The people making malware are always a step ahead of the AV companies.

Kaspersky and ESET and Bitdefender used to be the best paid ones but I don't know now. McAfee sucked but just got bought by Intel so it is supposed to be a little better, but in the end free Avira/AVG or nothing is ok.
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Antivirus is important for companies where your users are dumb as bricks, so 99% of companies
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I prefer Comodo, default deny really saves my bacon at times.
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Norton IS a virus!
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Anisoptera posted...

Is malware protection really important if you hardly ever download anything or visit sketchy sites? Is there anything to worry about if you never click ads?

Yes because ads themselves can deliver viruses just by loading in your browser. Gamefaqs was notorious for this in the past
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If you're computer and net savvy, and by that, I mean the vast majority of the users of this site, then all you need is Windows Defender.

I haven't had a virus detected in probably a decade. Smart browsing will always beat out a program looking for heuristics. My friend on the other hand, had 148 separate detections when I ran malware bytes on his PC. PEBKAC.
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I use malwarebytes premium edition and avast premier. Never had problems.
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Anisoptera posted...

Is malware protection really important if you hardly ever download anything or visit sketchy sites? Is there anything to worry about if you never click ads?

You don't even have to click ads for them to install shit onto your system. Just the act of them appearing will do that.

That's why uBlock Origin is essential.
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i use malware protection because I like to visit shady sites because sometimes on those sites, through all the popups and stuff of that nature, they have something I want to download. lol
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Solar_Crimson posted...

You don't even have to click ads for them to install shit onto your system. Just the act of them appearing will do that.

That's why uBlock Origin is essential.

If you have uBlock Origin, do you still need ad blocker as a separate extension?
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Zack_Attackv1 posted...

Norton IS a virus!

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Tadamoto15 posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

You don't even have to click ads for them to install shit onto your system. Just the act of them appearing will do that.

That's why uBlock Origin is essential.

If you have uBlock Origin, do you still need ad blocker as a separate extension?

uBlock Origin IS an adblocker.
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Printerscape posted...

yemmy posted...

people in the IT industry laugh at AV's, no shit

I've worked for four companies, and all four had some form of AV installed on the computer...

Businesses always go with paid protection, just like they always paid for the license for WinZip. There are a number of different reasons for this from insurance purposes to reducing legal liability if something goes wrong.

I don't know of a single individual who works in the tech industry who uses paid AV software on their personal machine. I'm sure they're out there but they would be in the tiny minority.
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fire_bolt posted...

Printerscape posted...

yemmy posted...

people in the IT industry laugh at AV's, no shit

I've worked for four companies, and all four had some form of AV installed on the computer...

Businesses always go with paid protection, just like they always paid for the license for WinZip. There are a number of different reasons for this from insurance purposes to reducing legal liability if something goes wrong.

I don't know of a single individual who works in the tech industry who uses paid AV software on their personal machine. I'm sure they're out there but they would be in the tiny minority.

One would be me, but mostly because i installed it back before windows defender was "good enough" and couldnt be assed to remove it
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Murayomi posted...

Haven't a single problem using Malwarebytes + Windows Defender.

Solar_Crimson posted...

Malwarebytes + Windows Defender + uBlock Origin pretty much protects you from most everything.

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Malwarebytes + Windows Defender + uBlock Origin master race, checking in.
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