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Glass_Phantom 07/02/17 9:18:28 AM #1:	If you are liberal, DON'T turn a blind eye to the societal ravages and iniquities of the Islamic world and its horrific outlook on human rights. It's nothing short of evil that gays are murdered for their sexual orientation in many places in the Middle East. It's nothing short of evil that it's the year 2017, and women in Saudi Arabia still cannot drive a car, nor even venture outside without an escort if they live in deepest purdah. To turn a blind eye to this -- or worse, accommodate the maintenance of these social injustices by dismissing them as a "difference culture" -- is regressive leftism at its worst. If you are conservative, don't promote the idea that Muslims ought to be isolated on foreign continents, or worse, forced to live under the thumbs of dictators in order to "keep them in line." This is the same kind of misguided evil that allowed Americans in the 19th century to justify genocide against the Native Americans, it is no different. When the Indians went from homestead to homestead scalping women, children, and even newborn babes, it was evil thinking like this that led the United States to revile them as "savages" with a "barbaric, violent religion" and therefore slaughter them. The same historic mistake is playing out in modern times, only now you are content to let foreign dictators do the slaughtering. You have not learned a single thing from history, you are no better. The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen. If you understand this, you will understand the problem: 1. The gatekeepers of Islam are the monarchies and dictatorships of the Middle East. 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless. 3. The people of the Middle East feel powerless because they live under monarchies and dictatorships, in countries where they have no rights, where their lives, and the lives of their sons and daughters, do not get any better. 4. The dictators and monarchs CHANNEL the anger borne of that powerlessness, directing it against their ethnic and regional adversaries: Iran against Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia against Iran and Hezbollah, Turkey against Syria, Hamas against Israel. This is the fuel for violence. 5. Whenever the Arab people grow restive, the dictators cite the imperialism of America and Europe to provide a new outlet for their anger -- redirecting it away from the dictators themselves, who are the true cause, allowing the dictators to stay in control. 6. Islam is not the root cause of the terrorism, oppression, and violence. It is the tool these regimes exploit to animate the people to serve their own ends. The awful truth is, when terrorism affects us in the West, we are collateral damage. The biggest victims of Islamist violence are the Muslims themselves, we must never lose sight of that. Therefore, the best way to end terrorism is this: Promote democracy, diversity, and tolerance. Welcome Muslims into our society, and open our doors to refugees in need. Don't be afraid to criticize the aspects of Islam that are immoral and wrong, but don't be hateful, and don't lay all the Islamic world's sins at the feet of all Muslims. Above all else, stand up against dictatorship and oppression. This is the key to bringing peace to the Middle East, and to fomenting a better world. Stand up against oppression in dictatorship. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:882195614] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>If you are liberal, DON'T turn a blind eye to the societal ravages and iniquities of the Islamic world and its horrific outlook on human rights. It's nothing short of evil that gays are murdered for their sexual orientation in many places in the Middle East. It's nothing short of evil that it's the year 2017, and women in Saudi Arabia still cannot drive a car, nor even venture outside without an escort if they live in deepest purdah. To turn a blind eye to this -- or worse, accommodate the maintenance of these social injustices by dismissing them as a "difference culture" -- is regressive leftism at its worst. If you are conservative, don't promote the idea that Muslims ought to be isolated on foreign continents, or worse, forced to live under the thumbs of dictators in order to "keep them in line." This is the same kind of misguided evil that allowed Americans in the 19th century to justify genocide against the Native Americans, it is no different. When the Indians went from homestead to homestead scalping women, children, and even newborn babes, it was evil thinking like this that led the United States to revile them as "savages" with a "barbaric, violent religion" and therefore slaughter them. The same historic mistake is playing out in modern times, only now you are content to let foreign dictators do the slaughtering. You have not learned a single thing from history, you are no better. The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen. If you understand this, you will understand the problem: 1. The gatekeepers of Islam are the monarchies and dictatorships of the Middle East. 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless. 3. The people of the Middle East feel powerless because they live under monarchies and dictatorships, in countries where they have no rights, where their lives, and the lives of their sons and daughters, do not get any better. 4. The dictators and monarchs CHANNEL the anger borne of that powerlessness, directing it against their ethnic and regional adversaries: Iran against Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia against Iran and Hezbollah, Turkey against Syria, Hamas against Israel. This is the fuel for violence. 5. Whenever the Arab people grow restive, the dictators cite the imperialism of America and Europe to provide a new outlet for their anger -- redirecting it away from the dictators themselves, who are the true cause, allowing the dictators to stay in control. 6. Islam is not the root cause of the terrorism, oppression, and violence. It is the tool these regimes exploit to animate the people to serve their own ends. The awful truth is, when terrorism affects us in the West, we are collateral damage. The biggest victims of Islamist violence are the Muslims themselves, we must never lose sight of that. Therefore, the best way to end terrorism is this: Promote democracy, diversity, and tolerance. Welcome Muslims into our society, and open our doors to refugees in need. Don't be afraid to criticize the aspects of Islam that are immoral and wrong, but don't be hateful, and don't lay all the Islamic world's sins at the feet of all Muslims. Above all else, stand up against dictatorship and oppression. This is the key to bringing peace to the Middle East, and to fomenting a better world. Stand up against oppression in dictatorship.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 07/02/17 9:23:15 AM #2:	Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:882195748] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Van_Zan- 07/02/17 9:23:51 AM #3:	lol The only dictatorship and oppression that is an actual threat to the West is that of Islamic extremism. Not that of Assad or Kim or Al-Sissi or whoever else's. You know what they say, the enemy is the one who designates you. --- \|Kentucky Irregulars\| http://i.imgur.com/LesXYEu.jpg <cite>-Van_Zan- posted [p:882195769] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>lol The only dictatorship and oppression that is an actual threat to the West is that of Islamic extremism. Not that of Assad or Kim or Al-Sissi or whoever else's. You know what they say, the enemy is the one who designates you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/02/17 9:30:30 AM #4:	what if you're a socialist? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:882195961] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>what if you're a socialist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 07/02/17 9:34:12 AM #5:	TC is right. Sadly, this will mostly fall on deaf ears. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:882196077] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>TC is right. Sadly, this will mostly fall on deaf ears.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Eternal Flame 07/02/17 9:37:01 AM #6:	Glass_Phantom posted... Welcome Muslims into our society, and open our doors to refugees in need. Why should I do this when we've seen first hand in Europe that it brings terrorism? If we simply don't let them in, we prevent terrorists from getting in. Sure, we have some who were born here, but that's a separate issue. --- The world turns on its axis; one man works while another relaxes. <cite>The Eternal Flame posted [p:882196157] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>Welcome Muslims into our society, and open our doors to refugees in need.</quote> Why should I do this when we've seen first hand in Europe that it brings terrorism? If we simply don't let them in, we prevent terrorists from getting in. Sure, we have some who were born here, but that's a separate issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/02/17 9:37:51 AM #7:	Glass_Phantom posted... 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless Terrorist: "I will slaughter you infidels in the name of Islam to establish a worldwide Caliphate!" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor naive fool, you aren't doing this because of Islam." Terrorist: "What? Yes I am" Glass_Phantom: "No you aren't! You're doing this because geopolitical forces have driven you into desperation" Terrorist: "We have released thousands of messages explaining the purpose of our crusade and what our goals are!! My motivation is Islam!" Glass_Phantom: "No no no, that's just your dictator talking. He has fooled you into believing Islam isn't a religion of peace." Terrorist: "Which fucking dictator? The dictator of Iraq? The dictator of Syria? Those guys STOPPED terrorism when they were in power. That's why the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria are so prominent now" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor dear, stop watching Fox News. Clearly WE are to blame for your horrible violent ways, not your wonderful religion." Terrorist: "Oh fuck it" beheads you --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882196176] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote> 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless</quote> Terrorist: "I will slaughter you infidels in the name of Islam to establish a worldwide Caliphate!" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor naive fool, you aren't doing this because of Islam." Terrorist: "What? Yes I am" Glass_Phantom: "No you aren't! You're doing this because geopolitical forces have driven you into desperation" Terrorist: "We have released thousands of messages explaining the purpose of our crusade and what our goals are!! My motivation is Islam!" Glass_Phantom: "No no no, that's just your dictator talking. He has fooled you into believing Islam isn't a religion of peace." Terrorist: "Which fucking dictator? The dictator of Iraq? The dictator of Syria? Those guys STOPPED terrorism when they were in power. That's why the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria are so prominent now" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor dear, stop watching Fox News. Clearly WE are to blame for your horrible violent ways, not your wonderful religion." Terrorist: "Oh fuck it" beheads you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorbidFaithless 07/02/17 9:40:46 AM #8:	The Eternal Flame posted... If we simply don't let them in, we prevent terrorists from getting in. Sure, we have some who were born here, but that's a separate issue Sure Jan --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1497506/bunnies-o.gif If I'm being honest I don't really expect a movie about mutant humanoid turtles to get good reviews ever. <cite>MorbidFaithless posted [p:882196279] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Eternal Flame posted...</cite> <quote>If we simply don't let them in, we prevent terrorists from getting in. Sure, we have some who were born here, but that's a separate issue</quote> Sure Jan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 07/02/17 9:41:15 AM #9:	Alucard188 posted... Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:882196296] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HogRiderreturns 07/02/17 9:42:30 AM #10:	Glass_Phantom posted... If you are liberal, DON'T turn a blind eye to the societal ravages and iniquities of the Islamic world and its horrific outlook on human rights. It's nothing short of evil that gays are murdered for their sexual orientation in many places in the Middle East. It's nothing short of evil that it's the year 2017, and women in Saudi Arabia still cannot drive a car, nor even venture outside without an escort if they live in deepest purdah. To turn a blind eye to this -- or worse, accommodate the maintenance of these social injustices by dismissing them as a "difference culture" -- is regressive leftism at its worst. If you are conservative, don't promote the idea that Muslims ought to be isolated on foreign continents, or worse, forced to live under the thumbs of dictators in order to "keep them in line." This is the same kind of misguided evil that allowed Americans in the 19th century to justify genocide against the Native Americans, it is no different. When the Indians went from homestead to homestead scalping women, children, and even newborn babes, it was evil thinking like this that led the United States to revile them as "savages" with a "barbaric, violent religion" and therefore slaughter them. The same historic mistake is playing out in modern times, only now you are content to let foreign dictators do the slaughtering. You have not learned a single thing from history, you are no better. The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen. If you understand this, you will understand the problem: 1. The gatekeepers of Islam are the monarchies and dictatorships of the Middle East. 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless. 3. The people of the Middle East feel powerless because they live under monarchies and dictatorships, in countries where they have no rights, where their lives, and the lives of their sons and daughters, do not get any better. 4. The dictators and monarchs CHANNEL the anger borne of that powerlessness, directing it against their ethnic and regional adversaries: Iran against Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia against Iran and Hezbollah, Turkey against Syria, Hamas against Israel. This is the fuel for violence. 5. Whenever the Arab people grow restive, the dictators cite the imperialism of America and Europe to provide a new outlet for their anger -- redirecting it away from the dictators themselves, who are the true cause, allowing the dictators to stay in control. 6. Islam is not the root cause of the terrorism, oppression, and violence. It is the tool these regimes exploit to animate the people to serve their own ends. The awful truth is, when terrorism affects us in the West, we are collateral damage. The biggest victims of Islamist violence are the Muslims themselves, we must never lose sight of that. Therefore, the best way to end terrorism is this: Promote democracy, diversity, and tolerance. Welcome Muslims into our society, and open our doors to refugees in need. Don't be afraid to criticize the aspects of Islam that are immoral and wrong, but don't be hateful, and don't lay all the Islamic world's sins at the feet of all Muslims. Above all else, stand up against dictatorship and oppression. This is the key to bringing peace to the Middle East, and to fomenting a better world. Stand up against oppression in dictatorship. None of that addresses the extremists ones in the west. You know, the ones that get the good educations and everything and still believe all the same exact stuff all the others believe. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>HogRiderreturns posted [p:882196334] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>If you are liberal, DON'T turn a blind eye to the societal ravages and iniquities of the Islamic world and its horrific outlook on human rights. It's nothing short of evil that gays are murdered for their sexual orientation in many places in the Middle East. It's nothing short of evil that it's the year 2017, and women in Saudi Arabia still cannot drive a car, nor even venture outside without an escort if they live in deepest purdah. To turn a blind eye to this -- or worse, accommodate the maintenance of these social injustices by dismissing them as a "difference culture" -- is regressive leftism at its worst. If you are conservative, don't promote the idea that Muslims ought to be isolated on foreign continents, or worse, forced to live under the thumbs of dictators in order to "keep them in line." This is the same kind of misguided evil that allowed Americans in the 19th century to justify genocide against the Native Americans, it is no different. When the Indians went from homestead to homestead scalping women, children, and even newborn babes, it was evil thinking like this that led the United States to revile them as "savages" with a "barbaric, violent religion" and therefore slaughter them. The same historic mistake is playing out in modern times, only now you are content to let foreign dictators do the slaughtering. You have not learned a single thing from history, you are no better. The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen. If you understand this, you will understand the problem: 1. The gatekeepers of Islam are the monarchies and dictatorships of the Middle East. 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless. 3. The people of the Middle East feel powerless because they live under monarchies and dictatorships, in countries where they have no rights, where their lives, and the lives of their sons and daughters, do not get any better. 4. The dictators and monarchs CHANNEL the anger borne of that powerlessness, directing it against their ethnic and regional adversaries: Iran against Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia against Iran and Hezbollah, Turkey against Syria, Hamas against Israel. This is the fuel for violence. 5. Whenever the Arab people grow restive, the dictators cite the imperialism of America and Europe to provide a new outlet for their anger -- redirecting it away from the dictators themselves, who are the true cause, allowing the dictators to stay in control. 6. Islam is not the root cause of the terrorism, oppression, and violence. It is the tool these regimes exploit to animate the people to serve their own ends. The awful truth is, when terrorism affects us in the West, we are collateral damage. The biggest victims of Islamist violence are the Muslims themselves, we must never lose sight of that. Therefore, the best way to end terrorism is this: Promote democracy, diversity, and tolerance. Welcome Muslims into our society, and open our doors to refugees in need. Don't be afraid to criticize the aspects of Islam that are immoral and wrong, but don't be hateful, and don't lay all the Islamic world's sins at the feet of all Muslims. Above all else, stand up against dictatorship and oppression. This is the key to bringing peace to the Middle East, and to fomenting a better world. Stand up against oppression in dictatorship.</quote> None of that addresses the extremists ones in the west. You know, the ones that get the good educations and everything and still believe all the same exact stuff all the others believe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xxdudeyy 07/02/17 9:51:43 AM #11:	As long as Saudi Arabia has all that oil. The west won't do anything to them. --- Gday <cite>xxdudeyy posted [p:882196603] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>As long as Saudi Arabia has all that oil. The west won't do anything to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/02/17 10:03:14 AM #12:	HogRiderreturns posted... None of that addresses the extremists ones in the west. You know, the ones that get the good educations and everything and still believe all the same exact stuff all the others believe. It isn't hard for people in the West to feel socially-ostracized, as most of the userbase on this forum can attest. And socially-ostracized people are the best candidates for radicalization. (Again, as most of the userbase on this forum can attest.) The extremism whose source lies in the Middle East finds fertile soil in such people. Thirty years ago, it might have been confined, but because of the Internet, now it finds unlimited range. When we ostracize Muslims for their faith and give sanction to prejudice against them, as so many people on this forum are wont to do, then we are playing into the candidates' confirmation bias that the West hates Muslims, and the West wants to subjugate Muslims. (The oft-spoken refrains about American and European imperialism find good play in alienated Muslim youth in the West, the same as anywhere else.) Hatred and exclusion are not the solution. The solution is brotherhood, tolerance, and love. Mark my words, Islamist terrorism will only grow worse under Donald Trump, and it's precisely BECAUSE of his methods. In many respects, it already has grown worse. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:882196999] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>HogRiderreturns posted...</cite> <quote>None of that addresses the extremists ones in the west. You know, the ones that get the good educations and everything and still believe all the same exact stuff all the others believe.</quote> It isn't hard for people in the West to feel socially-ostracized, as most of the userbase on this forum can attest. And socially-ostracized people are the best candidates for radicalization. (Again, as most of the userbase on this forum can attest.) The extremism whose source lies in the Middle East finds fertile soil in such people. Thirty years ago, it might have been confined, but because of the Internet, now it finds unlimited range. When we ostracize Muslims for their faith and give sanction to prejudice against them, as so many people on this forum are wont to do, then we are playing into the candidates' confirmation bias that the West hates Muslims, and the West wants to subjugate Muslims. (The oft-spoken refrains about American and European imperialism find good play in alienated Muslim youth in the West, the same as anywhere else.) Hatred and exclusion are not the solution. The solution is brotherhood, tolerance, and love. Mark my words, Islamist terrorism will only grow worse under Donald Trump, and it's precisely BECAUSE of his methods. In many respects, it already has grown worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/02/17 10:10:05 AM #13:	Glass_Phantom posted... When we ostracize Muslims for their faith and give sanction to prejudice against them, as so many people on this forum are wont to do, then we are playing into the candidates' confirmation bias that the West hates Muslims, and the West wants to subjugate Muslims. (The oft-spoken refrains about American and European imperialism find good play in alienated Muslim youth in the West, the same as anywhere else.) Right, which is why the Middle East was a bastion of peace before the 19th century. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:882197256] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>When we ostracize Muslims for their faith and give sanction to prejudice against them, as so many people on this forum are wont to do, then we are playing into the candidates' confirmation bias that the West hates Muslims, and the West wants to subjugate Muslims. (The oft-spoken refrains about American and European imperialism find good play in alienated Muslim youth in the West, the same as anywhere else.)</quote> Right, which is why the Middle East was a bastion of peace before the 19th century. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Van_Zan- 07/02/17 10:33:17 AM #14:	Mal_Fet posted... Glass_Phantom posted... 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless Terrorist: "I will slaughter you infidels in the name of Islam to establish a worldwide Caliphate!" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor naive fool, you aren't doing this because of Islam." Terrorist: "What? Yes I am" Glass_Phantom: "No you aren't! You're doing this because geopolitical forces have driven you into desperation" Terrorist: "We have released thousands of messages explaining the purpose of our crusade and what our goals are!! My motivation is Islam!" Glass_Phantom: "No no no, that's just your dictator talking. He has fooled you into believing Islam isn't a religion of peace." Terrorist: "Which fucking dictator? The dictator of Iraq? The dictator of Syria? Those guys STOPPED terrorism when they were in power. That's why the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria are so prominent now" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor dear, stop watching Fox News. Clearly WE are to blame for your horrible violent ways, not your wonderful religion." Terrorist: "Oh fuck it" beheads you Nail, head. --- \|Kentucky Irregulars\| http://i.imgur.com/LesXYEu.jpg <cite>-Van_Zan- posted [p:882198135] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote> 2. Terrorism is the last refuge of people who feel powerless</quote> Terrorist: "I will slaughter you infidels in the name of Islam to establish a worldwide Caliphate!" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor naive fool, you aren't doing this because of Islam." Terrorist: "What? Yes I am" Glass_Phantom: "No you aren't! You're doing this because geopolitical forces have driven you into desperation" Terrorist: "We have released thousands of messages explaining the purpose of our crusade and what our goals are!! My motivation is Islam!" Glass_Phantom: "No no no, that's just your dictator talking. He has fooled you into believing Islam isn't a religion of peace." Terrorist: "Which fucking dictator? The dictator of Iraq? The dictator of Syria? Those guys STOPPED terrorism when they were in power. That's why the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria are so prominent now" Glass_Phantom: "Oh you poor dear, stop watching Fox News. Clearly WE are to blame for your horrible violent ways, not your wonderful religion." Terrorist: "Oh fuck it" beheads you</quote> Nail, head.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 07/02/17 10:35:46 AM #15:	Just imagine being someone like Mal_Fet who has spent years of their time and energy making posts like that lmao <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:882198208] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>Just imagine being someone like Mal_Fet who has spent years of their time and energy making posts like that lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Van_Zan- 07/02/17 10:41:25 AM #16:	FursonaNonGrata posted... Just imagine being someone like Mal_Fet who has spent years of their time and energy making posts like that lmao Just imagine being spot on. --- \|Kentucky Irregulars\| http://i.imgur.com/LesXYEu.jpg <cite>-Van_Zan- posted [p:882198405] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>FursonaNonGrata posted...</cite> <quote>Just imagine being someone like Mal_Fet who has spent years of their time and energy making posts like that lmao</quote> Just imagine being spot on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/02/17 11:00:56 AM #17:	-Van_Zan- posted... FursonaNonGrata posted... Just imagine being someone like Mal_Fet who has spent years of their time and energy making posts like that lmao Just imagine being spot on. being spot on is beyond Mal_Fet's imagination --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:882199117] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>-Van_Zan- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FursonaNonGrata posted...</cite> <quote>Just imagine being someone like Mal_Fet who has spent years of their time and energy making posts like that lmao</quote> Just imagine being spot on.</quote> being spot on is beyond Mal_Fet's imagination</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/02/17 1:59:18 PM #18:	Bump! <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:882206869] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>Bump!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/02/17 2:03:01 PM #19:	What the fuck is Mal even rambling about? Anyway, pretty good stuff, TC. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:882207024] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>What the fuck is Mal even rambling about? Anyway, pretty good stuff, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 07/02/17 2:05:11 PM #20:	The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen. what is the qur'anist movement --- http://i.imgur.com/A0TAfek.png <cite>TheMikh posted [p:882207131] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><quote>The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen.</quote> what is the qur'anist movement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 07/02/17 2:07:03 PM #21:	Iodine posted... Alucard188 posted... Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives. Speak for yourselves and not everyone else, guys. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:882207212] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives.</quote></quote> Speak for yourselves and not everyone else, guys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 07/02/17 2:18:00 PM #22:	The Admiral posted... Iodine posted... Alucard188 posted... Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives. Speak for yourselves and not everyone else, guys. Guys, you can speak for Admiral though. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:882207753] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Alucard188 posted...</cite> <quote>Nobody who posts on here really gives a toss about Muslims except to finish their narratives.</quote></quote> Speak for yourselves and not everyone else, guys.</quote> Guys, you can speak for Admiral though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cAPITALISATION 07/02/17 2:35:59 PM #23:	Glass_Phantom posted... The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen. ITP: Ahmadiyya Islam doesn't exist --- tHE RULES OF CAPITALIZATION ARE SO UNFAIR TO WORDS IN THE MIDDLE OF A SENTENCE - jOHN gREEN <cite>cAPITALISATION posted [p:882208628] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>Glass_Phantom posted...</cite> <quote>The Muslim world has no equivalent of the Catholic Church, pining for some kind equivalent to the Christian Reformation is foolish, it can never happen.</quote> ITP: Ahmadiyya Islam doesn't exist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/02/17 4:12:21 PM #24:	Bump! =) <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:882213237] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>Bump! =)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 07/02/17 4:28:47 PM #25:	i restate my question: averagejoel posted... what if you're a socialist? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:882214030] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>i restate my question: <cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>what if you're a socialist?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GAMER_X 07/02/17 4:51:36 PM #26:	TC sorry but the UK and Sweden and France and a few other european nations followed your advice, and now all of them have been ruined by forced mass immigration. So yeah, no. There's plenty of room in the world for rape-happy, violence-happy, terrorism-happy 18-48 year old men, alot of whom were former beheaders themselves on one battlefield or another (which comprise a large enough majority of these refugees to make it a serious problem) The US has enough BS to deal with already, europe can keep this goddamn problem all to themselves --- "Dragon Age 2 was a train wreck the entire game, ME3 was like screaming rollercoaster that ran out of track and everyone died." -nIMr0D888 <cite>GAMER_X posted [p:882215184] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>TC sorry but the UK and Sweden and France and a few other european nations followed your advice, and now all of them have been ruined by forced mass immigration. So yeah, no. There's plenty of room in the world for rape-happy, violence-happy, terrorism-happy 18-48 year old men, alot of whom were former beheaders themselves on one battlefield or another (which comprise a large enough majority of these refugees to make it a serious problem) The US has enough BS to deal with already, europe can keep this goddamn problem all to themselves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/02/17 9:44:31 PM #27:	GAMER_X posted... TC sorry but the UK and Sweden and France and a few other european nations followed your advice, and now all of them have been ruined by forced mass immigration. I disagree. =) Bump! <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:882229734] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote><cite>GAMER_X posted...</cite> <quote>TC sorry but the UK and Sweden and France and a few other european nations followed your advice, and now all of them have been ruined by forced mass immigration.</quote> I disagree. =) Bump!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/03/17 4:45:03 PM #28:	Bump. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:882271743] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>Bump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukleen 07/03/17 4:48:09 PM #29:	The only advice you need; https://youtube.com/user/Acts17Apologetics --- no. <cite>Nukleen posted [p:882271898] in Advice on ... [t:75523516]...</cite> <quote>The only advice you need; https://youtube.com/user/Acts17Apologetics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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