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Blue_Inigo
06/20/17 3:20:47 PM
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Boring characters, kinda cool environment, very little story. Burned Man is the only cool thing about it. Dead Money was waaaay more interesting
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Shotgunnova
06/20/17 3:22:45 PM
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I rather enjoyed the area. It just sucked that, once you finish it, the amount of enemy gunmen wanes hard.

Burned Man made it all worth it, though.
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blahblahfatbomb
06/20/17 3:23:26 PM
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Fuck dead money with a rusty spoon to the brain.
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HogRiderreturns
06/20/17 3:24:48 PM
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Dead Money was a great story but the gameplay was shit.
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AceWingsta
06/20/17 3:25:44 PM
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Dead money is fun as a melee/unarmed build.
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Shotgunnova
06/20/17 3:25:50 PM
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Yeah, Dead Money is one of those add-ons that's way better on repeat playthroughs, when you know where all the interfering radios are. It can be quite terrible for first-timers, understandably.
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Blue_Inigo
06/20/17 3:30:08 PM
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Dead Money has the Sierra Madre mystery, cool as fuck party members with their own mysteries, and a helluva payoff. When I finished Honest Hearts, I felt nothing for anyone.
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chill02
06/20/17 3:36:23 PM
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Unpopular opinion: I liked all New Vegas' DLCs except Old World Blues because the humor overstays its welcome and the enemies turn into bullet sponges past level 20.
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garan
06/20/17 3:41:12 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
I rather enjoyed the area. It just sucked that, once you finish it, the amount of enemy gunmen wanes hard.

Burned Man made it all worth it, though.


I agree with this. It was the weakest of the DLC, but I still enjoyed it.
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Mal_Fet
06/20/17 4:23:37 PM
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I hated Dead Money when I played it, but I came to realize around Lonesome Road that it was the best of all the DLC.

I don't thibk I ever played a Bethesda RPG with as poetic a story as Dead Money, or told as wonderfully. Frustrating game mechanics dont change that.

And weirdly, I liked HH when I played it but after it was over I realized I hated it. The burned man was cool, but ultimately it was just another desert with a few more guns.
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sylverlolol
06/20/17 4:26:48 PM
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What's funny is I thought Dead Money would be the one I hated most, but it ended up being my favorite New Vegas DLC by far. And goddamn did it feel like I was jigsaw at the end sneaking out and locking that guy in the vault.
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M-Watcher
06/20/17 4:39:25 PM
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I also didn't feel much at all for Honest Hearts. Thought Old World Blues was pretty ridiculous, but that's pretty much the entire point.

Dead Money was interesting.

Lonesome Road was amazing to me. I just loved the feeling of me and my robot buddy going along a long, very atmospheric, dangerous journey to lead to one last battle.
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Mal_Fet
06/20/17 4:43:12 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
am i the only one who absolutely hated Ulysses, Lonesome Road, and how it gave a whole backstory to the player character who previously was essentially a blank slate? LR was by far my least favorite DLC.

Did it really add much to your backstory? All I remember is the Courier once unwittingly delivered a bomb to the settlement Ulysses lived in. It was already understood that you were a mailman prior to the events of New Vegas, so delivering a package isn't really a dissociative element.
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CW_McGraw
06/20/17 4:44:07 PM
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The Randall Clark journal entries make Honest Hearts worth playing through.
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masterpug53
06/20/17 4:55:03 PM
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DM>OWB>LR>HH

But I would still play HH over any of the Bethesda DLC.

chill02 posted...
Unpopular opinion: I liked all New Vegas' DLCs except Old World Blues because the humor overstays its welcome and the enemies turn into bullet sponges past level 20.


Agreed on principle, even though I still love OWB. DM can make a bad first impression that some gamers never get over, while OWB makes one hell of a good first impression; however, DM ages like fine wine while OWB loses it's luster on repeat playthroughs.
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dave_is_slick
06/20/17 5:35:59 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
am i the only one who absolutely hated Ulysses, Lonesome Road, and how it gave a whole backstory to the player character who previously was essentially a blank slate? LR was by far my least favorite DLC.

Probably. I hate blank slates.
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dave_is_slick
06/20/17 5:39:55 PM
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And for me me:

LR = DM > OWB > Randall Clark's journals >>>>>>>>>>> HH
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dr_marble
06/20/17 5:45:31 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
am i the only one who absolutely hated Ulysses, Lonesome Road, and how it gave a whole backstory to the player character who previously was essentially a blank slate? LR was by far my least favorite DLC.

Did it really add much to your backstory? All I remember is the Courier once unwittingly delivered a bomb to the settlement Ulysses lived in. It was already understood that you were a mailman prior to the events of New Vegas, so delivering a package isn't really a dissociative element.

he delivered a package that contained a remote detonation device for the nuclear armaments in the underground silos in the area, which were set off as a result. LR made the Courier into an unwitting destroyer of worlds. it just seemed to come out of nowhere for me.

I think the weirdest thing was Ulysses's presentation of this, because I also got the vibe that they were trying to add a significant bit of back story to my blank slate. It was very shark-jumpy.
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madcaptech
06/20/17 5:52:01 PM
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I'm surprised there's no love for the unmarked survivalist quest in HH.
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dave_is_slick
06/20/17 6:12:13 PM
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madcaptech posted...
I'm surprised there's no love for the unmarked survivalist quest in HH.

If it's what I think it is:

CW_McGraw posted...
The Randall Clark journal entries make Honest Hearts worth playing through.

dave_is_slick posted...
LR = DM > OWB > Randall Clark's journals >>>>>>>>>>> HH

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GeneralKenobi85
06/20/17 6:20:16 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
am i the only one who absolutely hated Ulysses, Lonesome Road, and how it gave a whole backstory to the player character who previously was essentially a blank slate? LR was by far my least favorite DLC.

The story of Lonesome Road and all the shit with Ulysses didn't interest me much. What I liked about Lonesome Road was the setting. It felt more post-apocalyptic than Bethesda's take on Fallout, and that was something really cool. It was the journey that interested me. Taking in the sights and the lore behind the Divide. Having ED-E beside me almost the entire time. Fallout is supposed to be about a world rebuilding, just along with the reminder that all the shit that got them into that situation in the first place would never disappear. Lonesome Road felt more like what Fallout should be to me.

I think mostly I just like ED-E.

Honest Hearts was cool too, but it was my least favorite of the DLCs.
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Mal_Fet
06/20/17 7:14:49 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
am i the only one who absolutely hated Ulysses, Lonesome Road, and how it gave a whole backstory to the player character who previously was essentially a blank slate? LR was by far my least favorite DLC.

Did it really add much to your backstory? All I remember is the Courier once unwittingly delivered a bomb to the settlement Ulysses lived in. It was already understood that you were a mailman prior to the events of New Vegas, so delivering a package isn't really a dissociative element.

he delivered a package that contained a remote detonation device for the nuclear armaments in the underground silos in the area, which were set off as a result. LR made the Courier into an unwitting destroyer of worlds. it just seemed to come out of nowhere for me.

Again, since it was understood from the beginning of your game that your character was a mailman, it's not like the game declared that you took an action that was out of the blue. Your character can't be blamed for delivering a package that he didn't know was a bomb, you were just doing your job.
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AceWingsta
06/20/17 8:01:27 PM
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Honest Hearts was the worst of all the DLC for sure.
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Lorenzo_2003
06/20/17 8:05:01 PM
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Is Dead Money the one with that stupid red mist in most places? That crap was super annoying, but the overall story was good.
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salandrews
06/20/17 8:06:14 PM
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After many playthroughs my opinion has changed.

HH
DM
LR
OWB
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dave_is_slick
06/20/17 9:21:47 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
i didn't like the impression it gave me for the reasons i stated.

What reason? One that's not even true to begin with?

Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Is Dead Money the one with that stupid red mist in most places? That crap was super annoying, but the overall story was good.

Yeah. I seriously do not get the complaints about that.
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dave_is_slick
06/20/17 11:59:27 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
What reason? One that's not even true to begin with?

it is true though.

Really, you're just gonna go "yuh huh"?
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dave_is_slick
06/21/17 12:29:02 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
it is an objective fact that LR fills in backstory for your character. it is plainly presented in the game. that is not something that is up for debate. you're only making yourself look foolish pretending it is.

Who said I was? This "backstory" doesn't fill in anything. You were a courier and you delivered something. Hence:
dave_is_slick posted...
One that's not even true to begin with?

Absolutely nothing was filled out.
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salandrews
06/21/17 12:49:28 AM
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LR was kind of bland. I dont really care for ulysses as a character.

Although he is the most dangerous man in Vegas. Besides us of course.

Great setting though. I guess i just didnt like that there was no actual characters besides ulysses and ed-e
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thompsontalker7
06/21/17 12:51:27 AM
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The Survivalist makes HH one of my favorite DLC pieces ever.
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salandrews
06/21/17 12:53:06 AM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
The Survivalist makes HH one of my favorite DLC pieces ever.


The rifle with the awesome backstory from HH?

That and its little scavenger hunt are great.
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salandrews
06/21/17 12:58:15 AM
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He's a depressing self righteous ass.

He's right that NCR is foolish and that legion is doomed without caesar though.
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_Schwarzlicht_
06/21/17 2:00:08 AM
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Dead Money
Good: Survival, solving how to get around with the cloud and the radios, interesting companions, awesome environment, lore, and story
Bad: Companions have a very limited amount of things to say and the timer for saying a phrase is like every half a minute, can be frustrating

Lonesome Road (aka how to get really rich really quick)
Good: ED-E is cute and gets pretty good upgrades, exploration(!!!), everything felt very old school America which was neat
Bad: Ulysses is a tryhard philosopher dork who says bear and bull way too fuckin much and has unclear motives, mad difficulty spikes in a few spots

Old World Blues
Good: Lots of neat places to explore, the Sink is fun to fully upgrade, seeing the connections to the other DLCs is cool
Bad: Psychic enemies, the longest and most annoying introduction ever, seriously do they have to talk for half an hour straight about lol-I'm-an-out-of-touch-excitable-scientist

Honest Hearts
Good: The Survivalist's messages, Keith Szarabajka as Joshua Graham, Zion looks nice, Follows Chalk is funny
Bad: Fetch Quest: The DLC, what's even the story here other than this tribe is being attacked by that tribe halp
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