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butthole666 06/18/17 4:11:52 AM #1:	And know that I and all of my loved ones can get medical care as needed without crippling debt, as opposed to making minimum wage and having to hope I don't ever contract a serious illness, chronic disease, or suffer serious injury And know that future generations will actually have access to quality education And that fewer people will be without food abd home And that the nations infrastructure won't crumble But yeah tax increases that, for all but the most extremely wealthy, would be fairly insignificant are bad corporations are people socialism is bad we need more tanks --- "Kenan & Kel is what made me realize I wasn't racist." ~ NewportBox100s <cite>butthole666 posted [p:881332489] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>And know that I and all of my loved ones can get medical care as needed without crippling debt, as opposed to making minimum wage and having to hope I don't ever contract a serious illness, chronic disease, or suffer serious injury And know that future generations will actually have access to quality education And that fewer people will be without food abd home And that the nations infrastructure won't crumble But yeah tax increases that, for all but the most extremely wealthy, would be fairly insignificant are bad corporations are people socialism is bad we need more tanks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 06/18/17 4:18:23 AM #2:	butthole666 posted... And know that I and all of my loved ones can get medical care as needed without crippling debt, as opposed to making minimum wage and having to hope I don't ever contract a serious illness, chronic disease, or suffer serious injury And know that future generations will actually have access to quality education And that fewer people will be without food abd home And that the nations infrastructure won't crumble But yeah tax increases that, for all but the most extremely wealthy, would be fairly insignificant are bad corporations are people socialism is bad we need more tanks Most of the world agrees with you. It's conservative America that is the ignorant and detrimental outlier. --- Now Playing: Overwatch, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl <cite>Amputation posted [p:881332638] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>And know that I and all of my loved ones can get medical care as needed without crippling debt, as opposed to making minimum wage and having to hope I don't ever contract a serious illness, chronic disease, or suffer serious injury And know that future generations will actually have access to quality education And that fewer people will be without food abd home And that the nations infrastructure won't crumble But yeah tax increases that, for all but the most extremely wealthy, would be fairly insignificant are bad corporations are people socialism is bad we need more tanks</quote> Most of the world agrees with you. It's conservative America that is the ignorant and detrimental outlier.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/18/17 4:19:11 AM #3:	b-b-b-b-buh but but but FAT PEOPLE COST MORE SOMETIMES therefore NOBODY GETS HEALTHCARE --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881332657] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>b-b-b-b-buh but but but FAT PEOPLE COST MORE SOMETIMES therefore NOBODY GETS HEALTHCARE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 06/18/17 4:20:40 AM #4:	Did you know that Norway only spends 2% more of their GDP on government spending compared to the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending#As_a_percentage_of_GDP Look at the column on the right. That means that the (various levels of) US government spends nearly as much as they do in Norway. So the problem is not simply that we aren't spending enough. The effectiveness of our spending is terrible. I'll also mention that much more of that US spending is financed by debt than what the Norwegians are doing (which is why the first column that displays tax revenue is much lower for the US). In the long run, one consequence of this is that interest on our debt can become a significant amount of the budget. The benefit though is lower tax rates. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:881332687] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>Did you know that Norway only spends 2% more of their GDP on government spending compared to the US? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending#As_a_percentage_of_GDP Look at the column on the right. That means that the (various levels of) US government spends nearly as much as they do in Norway. So the problem is not simply that we aren't spending enough. The effectiveness of our spending is terrible. I'll also mention that much more of that US spending is financed by debt than what the Norwegians are doing (which is why the first column that displays tax revenue is much lower for the US). In the long run, one consequence of this is that interest on our debt can become a significant amount of the budget. The benefit though is lower tax rates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 06/18/17 4:21:15 AM #5:	this is a bad topic --- http://i.imgur.com/K9jfKpU.png <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:881332702] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/18/17 4:21:42 AM #6:	You don't need higher taxes for that. Example - Chicago public schools spend around $16,000 per student per year. They're still shitty schools despite getting plenty of cash. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881332714] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>You don't need higher taxes for that. Example - Chicago public schools spend around $16,000 per student per year. They're still shitty schools despite getting plenty of cash.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/18/17 4:22:28 AM #7:	MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881332733] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 06/18/17 4:22:29 AM #8:	Clad posted... You don't need higher taxes for that. Example - Chicago public schools spend around $16,000 per student per year. They're still shitty schools despite getting plenty of cash. Classic example of continuing to throw money at a problem that isn't that simple. It's hard for some people to fathom this, but you can't simply solve all problems in the world by writing continuously bigger checks. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:881332734] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>You don't need higher taxes for that. Example - Chicago public schools spend around $16,000 per student per year. They're still shitty schools despite getting plenty of cash.</quote> Classic example of continuing to throw money at a problem that isn't that simple. It's hard for some people to fathom this, but you can't simply solve all problems in the world by writing continuously bigger checks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/18/17 4:24:37 AM #9:	Sativa_Rose posted... Clad posted... You don't need higher taxes for that. Example - Chicago public schools spend around $16,000 per student per year. They're still shitty schools despite getting plenty of cash. Classic example of continuing to throw money at a problem that isn't that simple. It's hard for some people to fathom this, but you can't simply solve all problems in the world by writing continuously bigger checks. B-b-b-b-but socialism!1 --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881332772] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote>You don't need higher taxes for that. Example - Chicago public schools spend around $16,000 per student per year. They're still shitty schools despite getting plenty of cash.</quote> Classic example of continuing to throw money at a problem that isn't that simple. It's hard for some people to fathom this, but you can't simply solve all problems in the world by writing continuously bigger checks.</quote> B-b-b-b-but socialism!1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myzz7 06/18/17 4:33:27 AM #11:	Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch --- http://s10.postimage.org/mxioonsd1/gildavatar.gif http://gifgifs.com/res/0916/57ebaeea6c7a9047727112.gif <cite>myzz7 posted [p:881332993] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:34:23 AM #12:	butthole666 posted... we need more tanks amen <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881333008] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>we need more tanks</quote> amen</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 06/18/17 4:35:10 AM #13:	RoadsterUFO posted... Central planning redistributing is nonsense and intitates people to fail. If you want free healthcare go to Cuba and Venezuela and enjoy that service. And to the guy mentioning Norway, most Euro countries barely commit to what they're supposed to pay in NATO, thus saving tons on military defense at the expense of the U.S. footing that billing for them. The commitment is 2% of GDP, Norway is spending 1.5% of GDP [1]. So yeah, they need to up it a bit to meet their commitment, I agree, but it's not huge enough of a difference to say that their system wouldn't work without 0.5% of GDP they aren't spending on military. Also when it comes to healthcare, the US currently spends more per person than any other country when you add public and private expenditure, so our healthcare system is completely broken regardless of the tax situation. [1] http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?year_high_desc=false --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:881333025] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>RoadsterUFO posted...</cite> <quote>Central planning redistributing is nonsense and intitates people to fail. If you want free healthcare go to Cuba and Venezuela and enjoy that service. And to the guy mentioning Norway, most Euro countries barely commit to what they're supposed to pay in NATO, thus saving tons on military defense at the expense of the U.S. footing that billing for them.</quote> The commitment is 2% of GDP, Norway is spending 1.5% of GDP [1]. So yeah, they need to up it a bit to meet their commitment, I agree, but it's not huge enough of a difference to say that their system wouldn't work without 0.5% of GDP they aren't spending on military. Also when it comes to healthcare, the US currently spends more per person than any other country when you add public and private expenditure, so our healthcare system is completely broken regardless of the tax situation. [1] http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.GD.ZS?year_high_desc=false</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:35:15 AM #14:	Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch you know what's entertaining? "intellectual" conservatives <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881333028] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> you know what's entertaining? "intellectual" conservatives</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:44:46 AM #15:	;) <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881333195] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>;)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:51:21 AM #16:	What's a good joke make out of Republicans entire existence being based entirely off of being scared of brown/colored people and what they're up to?? hmmmmmmm! <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881333321] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>What's a good joke make out of Republicans entire existence being based entirely off of being scared of brown/colored people and what they're up to?? hmmmmmmm!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 06/18/17 4:52:50 AM #17:	Dude, you're really not making yourself look good here. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:881333346] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>Dude, you're really not making yourself look good here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:57:46 AM #18:	DrizztLink posted... Dude, you're really not making yourself look good here. what does a conservative call charity ~~unnecessary handouts~~ <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881333441] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote>Dude, you're really not making yourself look good here.</quote> what does a conservative call charity unnecessary handouts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:58:23 AM #19:	ill be here all week <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881333455] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>ill be here all week</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 06/18/17 6:30:33 AM #20:	Bringing up Norway's spending can be really misleading. Yes, they spend just a little bit more, but they're also spending it on stuff that is more regulated to avoid ridiculous price hikes. Like medicine. The US spends the most money on medicine in the world. Great job, capitalism. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:881335133] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>Bringing up Norway's spending can be really misleading. Yes, they spend just a little bit more, but they're also spending it on stuff that is more regulated to avoid ridiculous price hikes. Like medicine. The US spends the most money on medicine in the world. Great job, capitalism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 06/18/17 6:41:31 AM #21:	scar the 1 posted... Bringing up Norway's spending can be really misleading. Yes, they spend just a little bit more, but they're also spending it on stuff that is more regulated to avoid ridiculous price hikes. Like medicine. The US spends the most money on medicine in the world. Great job, capitalism. I don't think that is actually what is going on outside of medicine. They spend better on healthcare that we do, but I don't think it's as simple as saying they are more regulated and we are more capitalist. The US healthcare system is a broken clusterfuck that is just straight up corrupt and neither capitalist nor socialist. It's just plain shit designed to funnel money to the corporations whose lobbyists practically designed it in the first place. That's not what capitalism actually means, but the term gets thrown around so loosely that it's basically lost any meaning. --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:881335351] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Bringing up Norway's spending can be really misleading. Yes, they spend just a little bit more, but they're also spending it on stuff that is more regulated to avoid ridiculous price hikes. Like medicine. The US spends the most money on medicine in the world. Great job, capitalism.</quote> I don't think that is actually what is going on outside of medicine. They spend better on healthcare that we do, but I don't think it's as simple as saying they are more regulated and we are more capitalist. The US healthcare system is a broken clusterfuck that is just straight up corrupt and neither capitalist nor socialist. It's just plain shit designed to funnel money to the corporations whose lobbyists practically designed it in the first place. That's not what capitalism actually means, but the term gets thrown around so loosely that it's basically lost any meaning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 06/18/17 6:54:57 AM #22:	Those are all results everyone wants Republicans just disagree about how to achieve them Saying that they don't want people to be healthy and educated is disingenuous --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:881335662] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>Those are all results everyone wants Republicans just disagree about how to achieve them Saying that they don't want people to be healthy and educated is disingenuous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 06/18/17 7:12:43 AM #23:	you just don't get it!! forcing the poor into a mass grave is part of the economic 4th dimensional chess that you teenage communists just dont get! tips fedora --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:881336011] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>you just don't get it!! forcing the poor into a mass grave is part of the economic 4th dimensional chess that you teenage communists just dont get! tips fedora</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 8:11:03 AM #24:	the poorer the world becomes, the richer the world gets in a conservative's-humble-opinion <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881337155] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>the poorer the world becomes, the richer the world gets in a conservative's-humble-opinion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 8:11:25 AM #25:	le' tip <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881337166] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>le' tip</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 06/18/17 8:12:13 AM #26:	Sativa_Rose posted... scar the 1 posted... Bringing up Norway's spending can be really misleading. Yes, they spend just a little bit more, but they're also spending it on stuff that is more regulated to avoid ridiculous price hikes. Like medicine. The US spends the most money on medicine in the world. Great job, capitalism. I don't think that is actually what is going on outside of medicine. They spend better on healthcare that we do, but I don't think it's as simple as saying they are more regulated and we are more capitalist. The US healthcare system is a broken clusterfuck that is just straight up corrupt and neither capitalist nor socialist. It's just plain shit designed to funnel money to the corporations whose lobbyists practically designed it in the first place. That's not what capitalism actually means, but the term gets thrown around so loosely that it's basically lost any meaning. No, my point is just that it's not necessarily as simple as "they're doing it more efficiently". Another big difference is wages in general. A yearly wage/salary (idk the difference) can be much lower in Norway while still being not only livable, but actually quite high. There are a lot of reasons why the costs would be different, so that comparison is very crude. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:881337191] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sativa_Rose posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Bringing up Norway's spending can be really misleading. Yes, they spend just a little bit more, but they're also spending it on stuff that is more regulated to avoid ridiculous price hikes. Like medicine. The US spends the most money on medicine in the world. Great job, capitalism.</quote> I don't think that is actually what is going on outside of medicine. They spend better on healthcare that we do, but I don't think it's as simple as saying they are more regulated and we are more capitalist. The US healthcare system is a broken clusterfuck that is just straight up corrupt and neither capitalist nor socialist. It's just plain shit designed to funnel money to the corporations whose lobbyists practically designed it in the first place. That's not what capitalism actually means, but the term gets thrown around so loosely that it's basically lost any meaning.</quote> No, my point is just that it's not necessarily as simple as "they're doing it more efficiently". Another big difference is wages in general. A yearly wage/salary (idk the difference) can be much lower in Norway while still being not only livable, but actually quite high. There are a lot of reasons why the costs would be different, so that comparison is very crude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 06/18/17 10:55:34 AM #27:	I don't pay a shitton in taxes and still get that healthcare coverage. Glad to live in Canada these days. Only the dumbest of motherfuckers would ever think a right wing, capitalist design for social services would be anything but a disaster, massively marking up costs and effectively holding an entire society ransom. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:881341781] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>I don't pay a shitton in taxes and still get that healthcare coverage. Glad to live in Canada these days. Only the dumbest of motherfuckers would ever think a right wing, capitalist design for social services would be anything but a disaster, massively marking up costs and effectively holding an entire society ransom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 06/18/17 10:57:42 AM #28:	If people in this country had any clue about economics, they'd be all for socialized health care. The system that is in place is not a capitalist system, but a cartel system, which is not part of a free market at all. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:881341853] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>If people in this country had any clue about economics, they'd be all for socialized health care. The system that is in place is not a capitalist system, but a cartel system, which is not part of a free market at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ray_Dorset 06/18/17 10:58:36 AM #29:	Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch Well, what's your argument against public healthcare? <cite>Ray_Dorset posted [p:881341903] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> Well, what's your argument against public healthcare?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 06/18/17 11:08:56 AM #30:	butthole666 posted... I'd rather pay a shit ton... Ok, then do that. Literally nothing is stopping you, except yourself, from giving most or even all of your paycheck to whichever charity, hospital or government agency that you approve of. I've done photography coverage for countless events where students, business people, social groups and others handed thousands of dollars of their own money to worthwhile causes. You can stop whatever you're doing right now, call to make an appointment and "pay a shit ton" to improve your community. Or you can do nothing different (I'm guessing you will pick this option), while virtue signalling on CE. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:881342276] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd rather pay a shit ton... </quote> Ok, then do that. Literally nothing is stopping you, except yourself, from giving most or even all of your paycheck to whichever charity, hospital or government agency that you approve of. I've done photography coverage for countless events where students, business people, social groups and others handed thousands of dollars of their own money to worthwhile causes. You can stop whatever you're doing right now, call to make an appointment and "pay a shit ton" to improve your community. Or you can do nothing different (I'm guessing you will pick this option), while virtue signalling on CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 06/18/17 11:29:41 AM #31:	MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic You're a bad poster. --- Now Playing: Overwatch, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl <cite>Amputation posted [p:881343139] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> You're a bad poster.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NinjaBreakfast 06/18/17 11:33:09 AM #32:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... butthole666 posted... I'd rather pay a shit ton... Ok, then do that. Literally nothing is stopping you, except yourself, from giving most or even all of your paycheck to whichever charity, hospital or government agency that you approve of. I've done photography coverage for countless events where students, business people, social groups and others handed thousands of dollars of their own money to worthwhile causes. You can stop whatever you're doing right now, call to make an appointment and "pay a shit ton" to improve your community. Or you can do nothing different (I'm guessing you will pick this option), while virtue signalling on CE. this is a bad argument --- http://i.imgur.com/nGZeEqw.png Do you really think you can beat me? <cite>NinjaBreakfast posted [p:881343301] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>butthole666 posted...</cite> <quote>I'd rather pay a shit ton... </quote> Ok, then do that. Literally nothing is stopping you, except yourself, from giving most or even all of your paycheck to whichever charity, hospital or government agency that you approve of. I've done photography coverage for countless events where students, business people, social groups and others handed thousands of dollars of their own money to worthwhile causes. You can stop whatever you're doing right now, call to make an appointment and "pay a shit ton" to improve your community. Or you can do nothing different (I'm guessing you will pick this option), while virtue signalling on CE.</quote> this is a bad argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 06/18/17 11:36:05 AM #33:	Ray_Dorset posted... Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch Well, what's your argument against public healthcare? He doesn't have one besides "socialism doesn't work!!", because he heard Hannity say that. Conservatives literally believe socialism just means universal health care, lol. --- Now Playing: Overwatch, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl <cite>Amputation posted [p:881343435] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ray_Dorset posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> Well, what's your argument against public healthcare?</quote> He doesn't have one besides "socialism doesn't work!!", because he heard Hannity say that. Conservatives literally believe socialism just means universal health care, lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/18/17 11:38:18 AM #34:	Ray_Dorset posted... Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch Well, what's your argument against public healthcare? It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881343531] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ray_Dorset posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> Well, what's your argument against public healthcare?</quote> It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 06/18/17 11:40:45 AM #35:	Clad posted... Ray_Dorset posted... Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch Well, what's your argument against public healthcare? It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff. It would be too expensive for one of most wealthy nations on Earth? --- Now Playing: Overwatch, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl <cite>Amputation posted [p:881343628] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ray_Dorset posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> Well, what's your argument against public healthcare?</quote> It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff.</quote> It would be too expensive for one of most wealthy nations on Earth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/18/17 11:42:40 AM #36:	Amputation posted... Clad posted... Ray_Dorset posted... Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch Well, what's your argument against public healthcare? It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff. It would be too expensive for one of most wealthy nations on Earth? http://www.usdebtclock.org --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881343700] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Amputation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ray_Dorset posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> Well, what's your argument against public healthcare?</quote> It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff.</quote> It would be too expensive for one of most wealthy nations on Earth?</quote> http://www.usdebtclock.org</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
John_Galt 06/18/17 11:44:29 AM #37:	The top 20% already pay 85% of the tax bill. So you are right, TC. It is time for everyone else to start paying their fair share. --- Who is John Galt? <cite>John_Galt posted [p:881343788] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>The top 20% already pay 85% of the tax bill. So you are right, TC. It is time for everyone else to start paying their fair share.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 06/18/17 11:48:24 AM #38:	John_Galt posted... The top 20% already pay 85% of the tax bill. So you are right, TC. It is time for everyone else to start paying their fair share. Go ahead and gimme that data. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:881343992] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote>The top 20% already pay 85% of the tax bill. So you are right, TC. It is time for everyone else to start paying their fair share.</quote> Go ahead and gimme that data.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 06/18/17 11:50:09 AM #39:	I hope someday we will put aside worldly materialism, selfishness, and greed. Our country grows weaker without enough revenue to pay its bills. Our neighbors are suffering without healthcare, without sufficient housing and education, sometimes even without food. Those of us who can afford to need to do a little more to pave the way to a brighter future for all. For the sake of the United States of America and each other, we need to pay more in taxes. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:881344077] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>I hope someday we will put aside worldly materialism, selfishness, and greed. Our country grows weaker without enough revenue to pay its bills. Our neighbors are suffering without healthcare, without sufficient housing and education, sometimes even without food. Those of us who can afford to need to do a little more to pave the way to a brighter future for all. For the sake of the United States of America and each other, we need to pay more in taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amputation 06/18/17 12:01:16 PM #40:	Clad posted... Amputation posted... Clad posted... Ray_Dorset posted... Clad posted... MakoReizei posted... this is a bad topic shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch Well, what's your argument against public healthcare? It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff. It would be too expensive for one of most wealthy nations on Earth? http://www.usdebtclock.org Ok, so you don't know anything about debt. --- Now Playing: Overwatch, Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl <cite>Amputation posted [p:881344524] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Amputation posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ray_Dorset posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Clad posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>this is a bad topic</quote> shhhh let them circle jerk, it's entertaining to watch</quote> Well, what's your argument against public healthcare?</quote> It'd be too expensive and we have seen a poor track record when it comes from the government spending money to increase the quality and accessibility of stuff.</quote> It would be too expensive for one of most wealthy nations on Earth?</quote> http://www.usdebtclock.org</quote> Ok, so you don't know anything about debt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/18/17 12:04:22 PM #41:	Yeah me too. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:881344659] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>Yeah me too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
suhleepy 06/18/17 4:43:31 PM #42:	mmk'. so let's give everyone free healthcare... EXCEPT the poor. drug test em' first to make them prove they deserve to live. :) :) :) bump! <cite>suhleepy posted [p:881358299] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote>mmk'. so let's give everyone free healthcare... EXCEPT the poor. drug test em' first to make them prove they deserve to live. :) :) :) bump!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 06/18/17 6:31:21 PM #43:	John_Galt posted... The top 20% already pay 85% of the tax bill. So you are right, TC. It is time for everyone else to start paying their fair share. The top 1% should be paying 99% of taxes if you truly wanted it to be fair. But not, you want poor people including yourself to be screwed over. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:881363946] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>John_Galt posted...</cite> <quote>The top 20% already pay 85% of the tax bill. So you are right, TC. It is time for everyone else to start paying their fair share.</quote> The top 1% should be paying 99% of taxes if you truly wanted it to be fair. But not, you want poor people including yourself to be screwed over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clad 06/18/17 6:32:42 PM #44:	hockeybub89 posted... Yeah me too. You barely pay anything and wouldn't be affected by insane tax hikes, though. That's why you'd be okay with. It doesn't affect you. --- "Conservatives are Nazi's." - scoobydoobydont "I just looked and amazon.com doesnt sell sex" - Complete_Idi0t <cite>Clad posted [p:881364007] in I'd rather... [t:75474595]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah me too.</quote> You barely pay anything and wouldn't be affected by insane tax hikes, though. That's why you'd be okay with. It doesn't affect you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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