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ROD
06/13/17 12:23:12 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
If/when Democrats regain power, making Puerto Rico and DC states should be among the first things they do.

I'm pretty sure DC statehood would require a constitutional amendment. Could be wrong, though.
Of course, this means the republicans need to double down on the California breakup while they still can.

What is the California breakup?


reps are scared they won't be able to electoral college their way into their presidency in a couple decades so they want to break up California to gerrymander it.
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Kaname_Madoka
06/13/17 12:24:17 PM
#52:


ROD posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
If/when Democrats regain power, making Puerto Rico and DC states should be among the first things they do.

I'm pretty sure DC statehood would require a constitutional amendment. Could be wrong, though.
Of course, this means the republicans need to double down on the California breakup while they still can.

What is the California breakup?


reps are scared they won't be able to electoral college their way into their presidency in a couple decades so they want to break up California to gerrymander it.

Wouldn't breaking up California into multiple states help liberals by making more seats?
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ROD
06/13/17 12:29:41 PM
#53:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
ROD posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
If/when Democrats regain power, making Puerto Rico and DC states should be among the first things they do.

I'm pretty sure DC statehood would require a constitutional amendment. Could be wrong, though.
Of course, this means the republicans need to double down on the California breakup while they still can.

What is the California breakup?


reps are scared they won't be able to electoral college their way into their presidency in a couple decades so they want to break up California to gerrymander it.

Wouldn't breaking up California into multiple states help liberals by making more seats?


Nope.

the idea is california is worth say, 50 points (I forgot the exact # )

They'd break it up into 4 states, all carefully gerrymandered so republicans win 3 of the 4 states, while the democrat-leaning parts get say, 1 electoral point or something stupid like that.

If they broke up california then why not texas and florida too? lol
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Kaname_Madoka
06/13/17 12:30:42 PM
#54:


ROD posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
ROD posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
If/when Democrats regain power, making Puerto Rico and DC states should be among the first things they do.

I'm pretty sure DC statehood would require a constitutional amendment. Could be wrong, though.
Of course, this means the republicans need to double down on the California breakup while they still can.

What is the California breakup?


reps are scared they won't be able to electoral college their way into their presidency in a couple decades so they want to break up California to gerrymander it.

Wouldn't breaking up California into multiple states help liberals by making more seats?


Nope.

the idea is california is worth say, 50 points (I forgot the exact # )

They'd break it up into 4 states, all carefully gerrymandered so republicans win 3 of the 4 states, while the democrat-leaning parts get say, 1 electoral point or something stupid like that.

If they broke up california then why not texas and florida too? lol

I forgot about gerrymandering. How is that legal in your country?
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ROD
06/13/17 12:38:54 PM
#55:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
ROD posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
ROD posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
If/when Democrats regain power, making Puerto Rico and DC states should be among the first things they do.

I'm pretty sure DC statehood would require a constitutional amendment. Could be wrong, though.
Of course, this means the republicans need to double down on the California breakup while they still can.

What is the California breakup?


reps are scared they won't be able to electoral college their way into their presidency in a couple decades so they want to break up California to gerrymander it.

Wouldn't breaking up California into multiple states help liberals by making more seats?


Nope.

the idea is california is worth say, 50 points (I forgot the exact # )

They'd break it up into 4 states, all carefully gerrymandered so republicans win 3 of the 4 states, while the democrat-leaning parts get say, 1 electoral point or something stupid like that.

If they broke up california then why not texas and florida too? lol

I forgot about gerrymandering. How is that legal in your country?


I wish I knew :/
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I Like Toast
06/13/17 12:50:59 PM
#56:


Nomadic View posted...


Yeah, they're likely to be Democrat voters

Were_Wyrm posted...

They didn't in 2012

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Questionmarktarius
06/13/17 1:05:14 PM
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Kaname_Madoka posted...
I forgot about gerrymandering. How is that legal in your country?

It's practically mandated.
https://ballotpedia.org/Majority-minority_districts

Of course, the racists and opportunists maliciously complied, and drew a perimeter (aka "district") around all the minorities.
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Antifar
06/13/17 1:07:01 PM
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Republicans have no power to break up California, is the thing. They control none of the state legislative bodies, and the federal government can't split a state.
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Questionmarktarius
06/13/17 1:12:17 PM
#59:


Antifar posted...
Republicans have no power to break up California, is the thing. They control none of the state legislative bodies, and the federal government can't split a state.

The individual counties themselves could go all Wheeling Convention, with plenty of external influence.
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ROD
06/13/17 1:14:25 PM
#60:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Antifar posted...
Republicans have no power to break up California, is the thing. They control none of the state legislative bodies, and the federal government can't split a state.

The individual counties themselves could go all Wheeling Convention, with plenty of external influence.


california won't be broken up lol
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Questionmarktarius
06/13/17 1:36:22 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
What does PR gain by being a territory rather than a state?

No federal income tax.
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Kim Kusanagi
06/13/17 1:48:02 PM
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BoxxyThe31st posted...
Probably because America is seen as the best country the world over


your 31st account?

this is beyond sad
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Kim Kusanagi
06/13/17 2:01:01 PM
#64:


Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm fine with Puerto Rico as a state, but I'm not okay with messing up our flag. We've got to pick a state to kick out of the union.

Which one, CE?


How about the illegaly invaded Hawaii
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Kaname_Madoka
06/13/17 2:01:40 PM
#65:


Kim Kusanagi posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm fine with Puerto Rico as a state, but I'm not okay with messing up our flag. We've got to pick a state to kick out of the union.

Which one, CE?


How about the illegaly invaded Hawaii

Or donate Alaska to Canada.
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X
06/13/17 2:02:46 PM
#66:


ROD posted...
Geiki Ganger posted...
Especially with Trump as president.

Literally the worst time to become a state.


it's not gonna happen.

1) They're hispanic
2) trump is prez
3) they'd vote democrat
4) Did I mention they're hispanic and trump is prez?


And the governor is a republican. So why Trump being pres is an issue?
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Questionmarktarius
06/13/17 2:03:12 PM
#67:


Kaname_Madoka posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm fine with Puerto Rico as a state, but I'm not okay with messing up our flag. We've got to pick a state to kick out of the union.

Which one, CE?


How about the illegaly invaded Hawaii

Or donate Alaska to Canada.

Or mush the Carolinas, Dakotas, or Virginias back together. Maybe even go nuts and merge Kansas with Ar-kansas.
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Kaname_Madoka
06/13/17 2:03:59 PM
#68:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm fine with Puerto Rico as a state, but I'm not okay with messing up our flag. We've got to pick a state to kick out of the union.

Which one, CE?


How about the illegaly invaded Hawaii

Or donate Alaska to Canada.

Or mush the Carolinas, Dakotas, or Virginias back together. Maybe even go nuts and merge Kansas with Ar-kansas.

Or you could just put Okhlahoma into Texas.
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ROD
06/13/17 2:11:07 PM
#69:


Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X posted...
ROD posted...
Geiki Ganger posted...
Especially with Trump as president.

Literally the worst time to become a state.


it's not gonna happen.

1) They're hispanic
2) trump is prez
3) they'd vote democrat
4) Did I mention they're hispanic and trump is prez?


And the governor is a republican. So why Trump being pres is an issue?


bolded.
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CruelBuffalo
06/13/17 2:13:52 PM
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By telling PR to fuck off they would be upsetting the Puerto Ricans that do live on the mainland and vote but im assuming they're willing to take that risk. But if Democrats get control and offer to bring them in that's gonna give them at least some kind of bond. Republicans could be the ones to win that support...
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VectorChaos
06/13/17 2:16:45 PM
#71:


Questionmarktarius
Or mush the Carolinas, Dakotas, or Virginias back together. Maybe even go nuts and merge Kansas with Ar-kansas.


Questionmarktarius posted...
Kansas

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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X
06/13/17 2:24:10 PM
#72:


CruelBuffalo posted...
By telling PR to fuck off they would be upsetting the Puerto Ricans that do live on the mainland and vote but im assuming they're willing to take that risk. But if Democrats get control and offer to bring them in that's gonna give them at least some kind of bond. Republicans could be the ones to win that support...


The problem is that would cause issues witb other hispanic communities that are being deported such as Cubans Mexicans Dominicans and south Americans such as Honduran Guatemalan Colombian Venezuelan Chilean and whatever other hispanic are being targeted by Trump to retaliate against Puerto Ricans and label me as a traitor to my heritage and possibly take their fustrations out in puertoricans. There's mexicans who hate puertoricans based on that fact alone.

And some label my people as sell out for standing by what they call the white man. Imagine the salt that would create among hispanic communities on the us.
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KStateKing17
06/13/17 3:07:19 PM
#73:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Kaname_Madoka posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm fine with Puerto Rico as a state, but I'm not okay with messing up our flag. We've got to pick a state to kick out of the union.

Which one, CE?


How about the illegaly invaded Hawaii

Or donate Alaska to Canada.

Or mush the Carolinas, Dakotas, or Virginias back together. Maybe even go nuts and merge Kansas with Ar-kansas.

Never
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weapon_d00d816
06/13/17 3:14:51 PM
#74:


Right now they get the benefits of being part of the US along with having much more sovereignty than a state so yeah, why would they ever want to change this current status?
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Medussa
06/13/17 3:16:14 PM
#75:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Right now they get the benefits of being part of the US along with having much more sovereignty than a state so yeah, why would they ever want to change this current status?


for the same reason pretty much every other territory became a state. a seat at the table, and federal funding.
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KnicksRGarbage
06/13/17 3:22:08 PM
#76:


Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm fine with Puerto Rico as a state, but I'm not okay with messing up our flag. We've got to pick a state to kick out of the union.

Which one, CE?


Puerto Rico
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