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GiftedACIII 05/27/17 2:43:08 AM #103:	BallerXRosetta- posted... GiftedACIII posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... GiftedACIII posted... Keep in mind these are posts Baller has made. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75387501/879827817 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75385506/879800399 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75386462 And while he doesn't believe that women came out of a man's ribs he does believe in a 9 year old marrying prophet. Shame too, because he has cool interests otherwise. Once again, That's a deflection. You can't use someone being Christian/Muslim/etc to dismiss someone's argument. Yes I can. Also, killing isn't inherently immoral. Killing a person in self defense isn't immoral. Killing someone who's threatening innocent people's lives isn't immoral. Killing someone who's terminally suffering or brain dead isn't immoral. None of that matters anyway since Fetuses has no personhood and aren't people. Nope, what if a religious person has something interesting to say? Those are what we call exceptions to the rule and not the rule itself. I should've specified killing innocents and even then killing in self-defense may be too far but that just depends on the scenario and we'll have to examine those on a case by case basis. But generally yes, killing is wrong. And I already linked a video on why they count enough to where being aborted is wrong. Yes, because they're likely biased people who have been brainwashed with a preset ideal that stems from outdated society and that conflicts with modern society. And true, that's why I edited my post later because I worded it wrong. Killing being generally wrong doesn't mean it always has to be, which is the only argument against abortion, because it's killing, thus it has to be immoral. It all depends on context and the benefit/cost to society. For example, killing a terminally ill or braindead individual isn't immoral even though the person is "innocent". And lol using a video as proof. Here's a counterargument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_muDgEfA0lQ --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:879893492] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind these are posts Baller has made. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75387501/879827817 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75385506/879800399 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75386462 And while he doesn't believe that women came out of a man's ribs he does believe in a 9 year old marrying prophet. Shame too, because he has cool interests otherwise.</quote> Once again, That's a deflection. You can't use someone being Christian/Muslim/etc to dismiss someone's argument.</quote> Yes I can. Also, killing isn't inherently immoral. Killing a person in self defense isn't immoral. Killing someone who's threatening innocent people's lives isn't immoral. Killing someone who's terminally suffering or brain dead isn't immoral. None of that matters anyway since Fetuses has no personhood and aren't people.</quote> Nope, what if a religious person has something interesting to say? Those are what we call exceptions to the rule and not the rule itself. I should've specified killing innocents and even then killing in self-defense may be too far but that just depends on the scenario and we'll have to examine those on a case by case basis. But generally yes, killing is wrong. And I already linked a video on why they count enough to where being aborted is wrong.</quote> Yes, because they're likely biased people who have been brainwashed with a preset ideal that stems from outdated society and that conflicts with modern society. And true, that's why I edited my post later because I worded it wrong. Killing being generally wrong doesn't mean it always has to be, which is the only argument against abortion, because it's killing, thus it has to be immoral. It all depends on context and the benefit/cost to society. For example, killing a terminally ill or braindead individual isn't immoral even though the person is "innocent". And lol using a video as proof. Here's a counterargument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_muDgEfA0lQ</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BallerXRosetta- 05/27/17 2:43:46 AM #104:	Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive." --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/arigreenwood98 http://i.imgtc.com/CeV2MSV.jpg <cite>BallerXRosetta- posted [p:879893508] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 05/27/17 2:44:03 AM #105:	FaultyGourry posted... I've always been of the opinion that abortion should be an inalienable right but certainly not an action that's to be respected or celebrated since it is taking away a potential life. Can I get yelled at now? >_> What's wrong with that opinion? Celebrating abortion is weird --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:879893516] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>FaultyGourry posted...</cite> <quote>I've always been of the opinion that abortion should be an inalienable right but certainly not an action that's to be respected or celebrated since it is taking away a potential life. Can I get yelled at now? >_></quote> What's wrong with that opinion? Celebrating abortion is weird</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sanktu_Vyvorant 05/27/17 2:44:27 AM #106:	BallerXRosetta- posted... Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive." Nothing you've said itt has been factual though --- "You know that NATO didn't exist before 9/11, right?" - Mal_Fet <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted [p:879893527] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive."</quote> Nothing you've said itt has been factual though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 05/27/17 2:47:21 AM #107:	Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... weapon_d00d816 posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... If you can't choose to be abstinent then lol congrats on letting society choose your sexual behavior for you. Sex can cheapen those "deeper" relationships. And you're being really vague. I don't know how "it" works. And what constitutes a superficial relationship? Stop just throwing things around like a child I chose not to be abstinent because I personally wanted to enjoy the pleasures of sex without arbitrary rules, not because I'm some dirty conformist. I'm not being vague at all. You don't understand how dating or sex works. Superficial relationships are self explanatory when you actually have one. It's ok man you're not dirty. But there's definitely conformity when you say you wanted to enjoy without arbitrary rules. And once again you don't really define a superficial relationship you just try some personal attack. Ironic how your explanations are superficial lol Wanting to do away with arbitrary rules makes me think of the exact opposite of conformity... A superficial relationship is one that's mostly lust and has no intention of being taken seriously. Often these are just FwB things and not even "real" relationships. To a normal person this is self explanatory just by looking at the two words together and understanding what they mean individually. Unless you're living under a rock it is more socially acceptable to be open sexually. And ok now was that so hard? Dang. Every relationship is different your definition of superficial could be different from someone else's but I guess that's hard for a conformist to grasp Are you claiming that having sex is conforming to society? LOL I don't poop anymore. That's conformist garbage. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:879893599] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote>If you can't choose to be abstinent then lol congrats on letting society choose your sexual behavior for you. Sex can cheapen those "deeper" relationships. And you're being really vague. I don't know how "it" works. And what constitutes a superficial relationship? Stop just throwing things around like a child</quote> I chose not to be abstinent because I personally wanted to enjoy the pleasures of sex without arbitrary rules, not because I'm some dirty conformist. I'm not being vague at all. You don't understand how dating or sex works. Superficial relationships are self explanatory when you actually have one.</quote> It's ok man you're not dirty. But there's definitely conformity when you say you wanted to enjoy without arbitrary rules. And once again you don't really define a superficial relationship you just try some personal attack. Ironic how your explanations are superficial lol</quote> Wanting to do away with arbitrary rules makes me think of the exact opposite of conformity... A superficial relationship is one that's mostly lust and has no intention of being taken seriously. Often these are just FwB things and not even "real" relationships. To a normal person this is self explanatory just by looking at the two words together and understanding what they mean individually.</quote> Unless you're living under a rock it is more socially acceptable to be open sexually. And ok now was that so hard? Dang. Every relationship is different your definition of superficial could be different from someone else's but I guess that's hard for a conformist to grasp</quote> Are you claiming that having sex is conforming to society? LOL</quote> I don't poop anymore. That's conformist garbage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 05/27/17 2:47:27 AM #108:	BallerXRosetta- posted... Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive." So now we've exposed your religious true colors where all you can go is "hurr me the most moral, me follow the book of codes which rules all, me more moral than the other mortals" --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:879893602] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive."</quote> So now we've exposed your religious true colors where all you can go is "hurr me the most moral, me follow the book of codes which rules all, me more moral than the other mortals"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/27/17 2:48:43 AM #109:	Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:879893633] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FaultyGourry 05/27/17 2:51:43 AM #110:	Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... FaultyGourry posted... I've always been of the opinion that abortion should be an inalienable right but certainly not an action that's to be respected or celebrated since it is taking away a potential life. Can I get yelled at now? >_> What's wrong with that opinion? Celebrating abortion is weird I think it's the not respecting it part. I've taken a bit of heat for telling a few people I think it's personally abhorrent. I mean, I get it, but it's hard to not think a little less people for doing so. --- You can tell a lot about a man by how he strangles you. "Hypocrisy does not invalidate a point." - S. Rose. https://imgur.com/ZA4vp0y <cite>FaultyGourry posted [p:879893715] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FaultyGourry posted...</cite> <quote>I've always been of the opinion that abortion should be an inalienable right but certainly not an action that's to be respected or celebrated since it is taking away a potential life. Can I get yelled at now? >_></quote> What's wrong with that opinion? Celebrating abortion is weird</quote> I think it's the not respecting it part. I've taken a bit of heat for telling a few people I think it's personally abhorrent. I mean, I get it, but it's hard to not think a little less people for doing so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 05/27/17 2:53:55 AM #111:	Tmaster148 posted... Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed. The problem is when they do this they turn it into abstinence-only sex ed with a heavy religious (but totally not we swear) slant. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:879893765] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed.</quote> The problem is when they do this they turn it into abstinence-only sex ed with a heavy religious (but totally not we swear) slant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/27/17 2:57:29 AM #112:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Tmaster148 posted... Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed. The problem is when they do this they turn it into abstinence-only sex ed with a heavy religious (but totally not we swear) slant. Of course. They don't care about solving the problem. They just want to be on a high house shaming others. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:879893857] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed.</quote> The problem is when they do this they turn it into abstinence-only sex ed with a heavy religious (but totally not we swear) slant.</quote> Of course. They don't care about solving the problem. They just want to be on a high house shaming others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hey 05/27/17 2:59:42 AM #113:	Anyone who says that a fetus isn't human clearly needs to retake 6th grade biology. --- You betta watch out, you betta not cry, you betta not pout im telling you why Here we go Steelers, here we go, Pittsburghs goin to the Super Bowl! Hey Day 5-10 <cite>Hey posted [p:879893919] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who says that a fetus isn't human clearly needs to retake 6th grade biology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BallerXRosetta- 05/27/17 3:01:02 AM #114:	GiftedACIII posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... GiftedACIII posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... GiftedACIII posted... Keep in mind these are posts Baller has made. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75387501/879827817 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75385506/879800399 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75386462 And while he doesn't believe that women came out of a man's ribs he does believe in a 9 year old marrying prophet. Shame too, because he has cool interests otherwise. Once again, That's a deflection. You can't use someone being Christian/Muslim/etc to dismiss someone's argument. Yes I can. Also, killing isn't inherently immoral. Killing a person in self defense isn't immoral. Killing someone who's threatening innocent people's lives isn't immoral. Killing someone who's terminally suffering or brain dead isn't immoral. None of that matters anyway since Fetuses has no personhood and aren't people. Nope, what if a religious person has something interesting to say? Those are what we call exceptions to the rule and not the rule itself. I should've specified killing innocents and even then killing in self-defense may be too far but that just depends on the scenario and we'll have to examine those on a case by case basis. But generally yes, killing is wrong. And I already linked a video on why they count enough to where being aborted is wrong. Yes, because they're likely biased people who have been brainwashed with a preset ideal that stems from outdated society and that conflicts with modern society. And true, that's why I edited my post later because I worded it wrong. Killing being generally wrong doesn't mean it always has to be, which is the only argument against abortion, because it's killing, thus it has to be immoral. It all depends on context and the benefit/cost to society. For example, killing a terminally ill or braindead individual isn't immoral even though the person is "innocent". And lol using a video as proof. Here's a counterargument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_muDgEfA0lQ His arguments were "it's legal so it's morally justified" and "it doesn't really count as a person". I already debunked the first argument and as for the second one I already linked the video lol. The cells are literally the first stages of being a person. Even if you don't consider that people, other vital organs begin forming early at stages where people still consider abortion to be okay. So you get an even smaller time frame for an abortion if you're one of those people with lax moral codes. GiftedACIII posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive." So now we've exposed your religious true colors where all you can go is "hurr me the most moral, me follow the book of codes which rules all, me more moral than the other mortals" Idgaf if people don't want to follow the books. What I am saying is that these are common sense rules that everyone, religion or non-religious, should follow. What's next? Are you going to call theft a "crazy rule they only religious people follow"? --- https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/arigreenwood98 http://i.imgtc.com/CeV2MSV.jpg <cite>BallerXRosetta- posted [p:879893958] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote>Keep in mind these are posts Baller has made. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75387501/879827817 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75385506/879800399 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/75386462 And while he doesn't believe that women came out of a man's ribs he does believe in a 9 year old marrying prophet. Shame too, because he has cool interests otherwise.</quote> Once again, That's a deflection. You can't use someone being Christian/Muslim/etc to dismiss someone's argument.</quote> Yes I can. Also, killing isn't inherently immoral. Killing a person in self defense isn't immoral. Killing someone who's threatening innocent people's lives isn't immoral. Killing someone who's terminally suffering or brain dead isn't immoral. None of that matters anyway since Fetuses has no personhood and aren't people.</quote> Nope, what if a religious person has something interesting to say? Those are what we call exceptions to the rule and not the rule itself. I should've specified killing innocents and even then killing in self-defense may be too far but that just depends on the scenario and we'll have to examine those on a case by case basis. But generally yes, killing is wrong. And I already linked a video on why they count enough to where being aborted is wrong.</quote> Yes, because they're likely biased people who have been brainwashed with a preset ideal that stems from outdated society and that conflicts with modern society. And true, that's why I edited my post later because I worded it wrong. Killing being generally wrong doesn't mean it always has to be, which is the only argument against abortion, because it's killing, thus it has to be immoral. It all depends on context and the benefit/cost to society. For example, killing a terminally ill or braindead individual isn't immoral even though the person is "innocent". And lol using a video as proof. Here's a counterargument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_muDgEfA0lQ</quote> His arguments were "it's legal so it's morally justified" and "it doesn't really count as a person". I already debunked the first argument and as for the second one I already linked the video lol. The cells are literally the first stages of being a person. Even if you don't consider that people, other vital organs begin forming early at stages where people still consider abortion to be okay. So you get an even smaller time frame for an abortion if you're one of those people with lax moral codes. <cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Stop dismissing facts as differeng opinions. You're saying "my lax moral code is the true threshold of morality and anything past that is excessive and intrusive."</quote> So now we've exposed your religious true colors where all you can go is "hurr me the most moral, me follow the book of codes which rules all, me more moral than the other mortals"</quote> Idgaf if people don't want to follow the books. What I am saying is that these are common sense rules that everyone, religion or non-religious, should follow. What's next? Are you going to call theft a "crazy rule they only religious people follow"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 05/27/17 3:12:40 AM #116:	BallerXRosetta- posted... His arguments were "it's legal so it's morally justified" and "it doesn't really count as a person". I already debunked the first argument and as for the second one I already linked the video lol. The cells are literally the first stages of being a person. Even if you don't consider that people, other vital organs begin forming early at stages where people still consider abortion to be okay. So you get an even smaller time frame for an abortion if you're one of those people with lax moral codes. And it's legal in all developed areas and countries because it is morally justified 99% of the time. So another dumbass argument down. And you are confusing being alive with "person" which is short for personality. A functioning brain is the only thing that matters. Who cares if the hearts and whatever are also working? Brain dead people are also functionally working but they're still dead in all but name. BallerXRosetta- posted... Idgaf if people don't want to follow the books. What I am saying is that these are common sense rules that everyone, religion or non-religious, should follow. What's next? Are you going to call theft a "crazy rule they only religious people follow"? And since the majority of the world says that common sense is that abortion is morally justified it is you that is in the wrong and morally unsound. Anyway, enough of playing by your rules, here is the main argument for abortion: it's the idea that everyone has the right to their own bodily autonomy- after all, you're not forced to give up your own blood or organs if someone else needs them, even if you were the one that caused them to need it so a woman shouldn't be able to be forced to keep a fetus alive in their body. It might make her an asshole but she still can't be forced to. If you want to say the fetus have their own right too, then they can do it on their own outside the woman's body. And another thing I care about it is happiness which I would say is more with morality than yours. Making a child that is born into an unloving, unwanted family in poverty or be forced to go through the flawed foster system (especially since most children who were to be aborted aren't children most adoptees look to adopt) is not any more moral (I would say less moral) than just not having it happen in the first place since it's statistically more likely the child will grow up into a scenario where both they and the people they affect are unhappy anyway or even harm society. So basically, the most likely outcome is that many people are made unhappy, including the "child that was saved", all because of a few "morally upright" (in truth, controlling assholes) must force their ideals on everyone else. Yes, there might be exceptions but the way the world works reality isn't forgiving. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:879894285] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>His arguments were "it's legal so it's morally justified" and "it doesn't really count as a person". I already debunked the first argument and as for the second one I already linked the video lol. The cells are literally the first stages of being a person. Even if you don't consider that people, other vital organs begin forming early at stages where people still consider abortion to be okay. So you get an even smaller time frame for an abortion if you're one of those people with lax moral codes.</quote> And it's legal in all developed areas and countries because it is morally justified 99% of the time. So another dumbass argument down. And you are confusing being alive with "person" which is short for personality. A functioning brain is the only thing that matters. Who cares if the hearts and whatever are also working? Brain dead people are also functionally working but they're still dead in all but name. <cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Idgaf if people don't want to follow the books. What I am saying is that these are common sense rules that everyone, religion or non-religious, should follow. What's next? Are you going to call theft a "crazy rule they only religious people follow"?</quote> And since the majority of the world says that common sense is that abortion is morally justified it is you that is in the wrong and morally unsound. Anyway, enough of playing by your rules, here is the main argument for abortion: it's the idea that everyone has the right to their own bodily autonomy- after all, you're not forced to give up your own blood or organs if someone else needs them, even if you were the one that caused them to need it so a woman shouldn't be able to be forced to keep a fetus alive in their body. It might make her an asshole but she still can't be forced to. If you want to say the fetus have their own right too, then they can do it on their own outside the woman's body. And another thing I care about it is happiness which I would say is more with morality than yours. Making a child that is born into an unloving, unwanted family in poverty or be forced to go through the flawed foster system (especially since most children who were to be aborted aren't children most adoptees look to adopt) is not any more moral (I would say less moral) than just not having it happen in the first place since it's statistically more likely the child will grow up into a scenario where both they and the people they affect are unhappy anyway or even harm society. So basically, the most likely outcome is that many people are made unhappy, including the "child that was saved", all because of a few "morally upright" (in truth, controlling assholes) must force their ideals on everyone else. Yes, there might be exceptions but the way the world works reality isn't forgiving.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 05/27/17 3:19:29 AM #118:	Conflict posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Yeah it does suck. Not caring for a child in the womb is simply not caring for human life. Not caring for human life definitely contributed to the holocaust Lol I just skimmed through page 2 and saw this It's pretty obvious you're another one of those virgins lashing out at everyone for doing something you're not experiencing yourself. Anyone who equates abortion to the holocaust deserves to be treated like a clown. Seriously. What a dumpster fire of a topic. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:879894455] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah it does suck. Not caring for a child in the womb is simply not caring for human life. Not caring for human life definitely contributed to the holocaust</quote> Lol I just skimmed through page 2 and saw this It's pretty obvious you're another one of those virgins lashing out at everyone for doing something you're not experiencing yourself. Anyone who equates abortion to the holocaust deserves to be treated like a clown.</quote> Seriously. What a dumpster fire of a topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 05/27/17 3:25:12 AM #119:	BallerXRosetta- posted... CowboyDan posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too. I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life. I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection. Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:879894612] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too.</quote> I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.</quote> I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.</quote> Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/27/17 3:28:02 AM #120:	It exists because you don't have any right over what someone chooses to do with (or in this case, have in) their own body. --- PSN: kazukifafner <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:879894681] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>It exists because you don't have any right over what someone chooses to do with (or in this case, have in) their own body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 05/27/17 3:29:54 AM #121:	Sinroth posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... CowboyDan posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too. I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life. I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection. Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude. Vegans are alright, but so is abortion <cite>PBusted posted [p:879894730] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too.</quote> I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.</quote> I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.</quote> Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude.</quote> Vegans are alright, but so is abortion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePredominate 05/27/17 3:44:06 AM #122:	TC are you a virgin? Serious question --- Keep your face to the Sunshine, and you will not see the Shadows. <cite>ThePredominate posted [p:879895110] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>TC are you a virgin? Serious question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shnangyboos 05/27/17 3:57:38 AM #124:	It's completely by choice. He won't conform to society's standards. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:879895427] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>It's completely by choice. He won't conform to society's standards.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sinroth 05/27/17 4:23:00 AM #125:	PBusted posted... Sinroth posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... CowboyDan posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too. I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life. I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection. Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude. Vegans are alright, but so is abortion This board always gives me the impression that pro-abortionists are more interested in polemics than dialectics. Nothing I said really required any kind of response from you. --- I live in a big house and it's handy to have a pair of running shoes so that it doesn't take me forever to get from one area of the house to another. <cite>Sinroth posted [p:879895919] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>PBusted posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too.</quote> I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.</quote> I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.</quote> Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude.</quote> Vegans are alright, but so is abortion</quote> This board always gives me the impression that pro-abortionists are more interested in polemics than dialectics. Nothing I said really required any kind of response from you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_cajun88 05/27/17 5:07:13 AM #126:	DrizztLink posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... CowboyDan posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... CowboyDan posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too. I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life. I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions is still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection. Sure, but it's a fair accusation of hypocrisy. No it's not. Humans are not animals Then what are they, plants? lmao awesome --- http://i.imgur.com/ks5GR7C.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vG1Yhak.jpg <cite>the_cajun88 posted [p:879896808] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote> Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too. </quote> I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.</quote> I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions is still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.</quote> Sure, but it's a fair accusation of hypocrisy.</quote> No it's not. Humans are not animals</quote> Then what are they, plants?</quote> lmao awesome</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/27/17 5:25:01 AM #127:	What part of "you will have no say in what a female does with her own body" doesn't get through the thick fucking bricks that pro-lifers like to call a fucking brain?? Make it illegal, then abortions are STILL going to happen, only you have to worry about the ACTUAL human being if the law were changed because of the emotional stupidity. AND (to inject my brilliance) If a fetus is developing to become a person, that does NOT make it a person. --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879897135] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>What part of "you will have no say in what a female does with her own body" doesn't get through the thick fucking bricks that pro-lifers like to call a fucking brain?? Make it illegal, then abortions are STILL going to happen, only you have to worry about the ACTUAL human being if the law were changed because of the emotional stupidity. AND (to inject my brilliance) If a fetus is developing to become a person, that does NOT make it a person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nundulan 05/27/17 6:24:27 AM #128:	I'm not pro choice I'm pro abortion bitch --- PSN: Nundulan And you might see your neighbor/Down at the corner bodega/Buyin' a malt liquor in exchange for a used Sega <cite>Nundulan posted [p:879898127] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>I'm not pro choice I'm pro abortion bitch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
alphagamerXXL 05/27/17 6:41:23 AM #129:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Don't want kids? Never have sex! Don't want to get in a car accident? Never drive a car! Don't want bills? Be homeless! Lmao so true --- HH1 nobody on this board takes you seriously. nobody. do you understand me? - shycheesecake <cite>alphagamerXXL posted [p:879898440] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>Don't want kids? Never have sex! Don't want to get in a car accident? Never drive a car! Don't want bills? Be homeless!</quote> Lmao so true</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 05/27/17 7:14:21 AM #130:	What if the child was conceived via rape? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:879899027] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>What if the child was conceived via rape?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazuma_Yagami 05/27/17 8:02:44 AM #131:	spikethedevil posted... What if the child was conceived via rape? I'm glad it took 130 posts to reach this question. Shows some progress. It may be a terrible circumstance, but killing babies is still not right. --- This space is here only so it looks like I have a sig so my post are more noticeable. My posts look naked without a sig. <cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted [p:879899914] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>What if the child was conceived via rape?</quote> I'm glad it took 130 posts to reach this question. Shows some progress. It may be a terrible circumstance, but killing babies is still not right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 05/27/17 8:05:15 AM #132:	Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:879899968] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazuma_Yagami 05/27/17 8:05:55 AM #133:	Conflict posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Yeah it does suck. Not caring for a child in the womb is simply not caring for human life. Not caring for human life definitely contributed to the holocaust Lol I just skimmed through page 2 and saw this It's pretty obvious you're another one of those virgins lashing out at everyone for doing something you're not experiencing yourself. Anyone who equates abortion to the holocaust deserves to be treated like a clown. I'm not equating abortion to the holocaust. I said it contributed. Reading context man, you need to learn it. I'm not a virgin and I am not lashing out lol. So keep spouting out "personal attacks" instead of saying anything worthwhile. Next --- This space is here only so it looks like I have a sig so my post are more noticeable. My posts look naked without a sig. <cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted [p:879899981] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah it does suck. Not caring for a child in the womb is simply not caring for human life. Not caring for human life definitely contributed to the holocaust</quote> Lol I just skimmed through page 2 and saw this It's pretty obvious you're another one of those virgins lashing out at everyone for doing something you're not experiencing yourself. Anyone who equates abortion to the holocaust deserves to be treated like a clown.</quote> I'm not equating abortion to the holocaust. I said it contributed. Reading context man, you need to learn it. I'm not a virgin and I am not lashing out lol. So keep spouting out "personal attacks" instead of saying anything worthwhile. Next</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 05/27/17 8:08:05 AM #134:	Tmaster148 posted... Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. So much truth to this. Tmaster148 posted... Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed. For a lot of Pro-lifers who are atheists/liberal, they're actually for this type of thing. It's the ones that tend to lean on the religious side that are for sex education about abstaining because they have this really weird puritan view on sex. --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:879900031] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either.</quote> So much truth to this. <cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed.</quote> For a lot of Pro-lifers who are atheists/liberal, they're actually for this type of thing. It's the ones that tend to lean on the religious side that are for sex education about abstaining because they have this really weird puritan view on sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazuma_Yagami 05/27/17 8:09:15 AM #135:	Feline_Heart posted... Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping. --- This space is here only so it looks like I have a sig so my post are more noticeable. My posts look naked without a sig. <cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted [p:879900048] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 05/27/17 8:11:53 AM #136:	Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping. I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:879900108] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping.</quote> I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazuma_Yagami 05/27/17 8:12:46 AM #137:	Lightsasori posted... Tmaster148 posted... Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either. So much truth to this. Tmaster148 posted... Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed. For a lot of Pro-lifers who are atheists/liberal, they're actually for this type of thing. It's the ones that tend to lean on the religious side that are for sex education about abstaining because they have this really weird puritan view on sex. I am pro-life but I don't think abortion should be illegal. It is not as clear cut as murder (at least for now) so placing that law over it does not help and yes people would still be getting them. Society puts sex on a pedestal not religion. --- This space is here only so it looks like I have a sig so my post are more noticeable. My posts look naked without a sig. <cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted [p:879900132] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lightsasori posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people are fighting the wrong battle anyways. Making abortion illegal won't stop people from having one. The people who choose to have an abortion are not making that choice lightly either.</quote> So much truth to this. <cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Pro-Life people should be for better sex ed and accessible birth control, because those will lower the number of abortions needed.</quote> For a lot of Pro-lifers who are atheists/liberal, they're actually for this type of thing. It's the ones that tend to lean on the religious side that are for sex education about abstaining because they have this really weird puritan view on sex.</quote> I am pro-life but I don't think abortion should be illegal. It is not as clear cut as murder (at least for now) so placing that law over it does not help and yes people would still be getting them. Society puts sex on a pedestal not religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazuma_Yagami 05/27/17 8:13:24 AM #138:	Feline_Heart posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping. I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol Well read the topic title and first post --- This space is here only so it looks like I have a sig so my post are more noticeable. My posts look naked without a sig. <cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted [p:879900150] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping.</quote> I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol</quote> Well read the topic title and first post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 05/27/17 8:13:54 AM #139:	Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping. I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol Well read the topic title and first post I did. So should people suffer for the rest of their life just because birth control and condoms didn't work like they were supposed to? <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:879900166] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping.</quote> I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol</quote> Well read the topic title and first post</quote> I did. So should people suffer for the rest of their life just because birth control and condoms didn't work like they were supposed to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/27/17 8:15:07 AM #140:	Week 28: Baby's eyes open Twenty-eight weeks into your pregnancy, or 26 weeks after conception, your baby's eyelids are partially open and eyelashes have formed. Your baby is gaining weight, which is smoothing out many of the wrinkles in his or her skin. By now your baby might be nearly 10 inches (250 millimeters) long from crown to rump and weigh nearly 2 1/4 pounds (1,000 grams). Otherwise healthy babies born this week have a 90 percent chance of survival without physical or neurological impairment — 10 inches of cells and undeveloped bones are what morons call "murder." The worse thing is nothing will ever change their tiny little minds. God damn pro-lifers are fucking STUPID --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879900191] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><quote>Week 28: Baby's eyes open Twenty-eight weeks into your pregnancy, or 26 weeks after conception, your baby's eyelids are partially open and eyelashes have formed. Your baby is gaining weight, which is smoothing out many of the wrinkles in his or her skin. By now your baby might be nearly 10 inches (250 millimeters) long from crown to rump and weigh nearly 2 1/4 pounds (1,000 grams). Otherwise healthy babies born this week have a 90 percent chance of survival without physical or neurological impairment —</quote> 10 inches of cells and undeveloped bones are what morons call "murder." The worse thing is nothing will ever change their tiny little minds. God damn pro-lifers are fucking STUPID</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazuma_Yagami 05/27/17 8:28:50 AM #141:	Feline_Heart posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping. I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol Well read the topic title and first post I did. So should people suffer for the rest of their life just because birth control and condoms didn't work like they were supposed to? So having a child is suffering now? Being alive is suffering now? Have you no faith in people? You had your choice when you had sex. Birth control or not --- This space is here only so it looks like I have a sig so my post are more noticeable. My posts look naked without a sig. <cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted [p:879900530] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping.</quote> I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol</quote> Well read the topic title and first post</quote> I did. So should people suffer for the rest of their life just because birth control and condoms didn't work like they were supposed to?</quote> So having a child is suffering now? Being alive is suffering now? Have you no faith in people? You had your choice when you had sex. Birth control or not</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 05/27/17 8:32:33 AM #142:	BallerXRosetta- posted... Or at least wait until marrriage. What if you want to get married but still don't want kids? I guess a a double precaution vasectomy/hysterectomy would be in order. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". <cite>Laserion posted [p:879900625] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Or at least wait until marrriage.</quote> What if you want to get married but still don't want kids? I guess a a double precaution vasectomy/hysterectomy would be in order.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 05/27/17 8:34:20 AM #143:	Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Kazuma_Yagami posted... Feline_Heart posted... Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping. I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol Well read the topic title and first post I did. So should people suffer for the rest of their life just because birth control and condoms didn't work like they were supposed to? So having a child is suffering now? Being alive is suffering now? Have you no faith in people? You had your choice when you had sex. Birth control or not Let's say you knock up a girl after a one night stand. You used a condom, but she still managed to get pregnant. The two of you don't know each other well, but now you're forced to have a relationship with each other because she refuses to have an abortion even though you don't want the kid. The baby is born and you're either forced to pay child support for 18 years to a lady you haven't talked to in years or you get married to someone you barley know and the marriage is terrible because your personalities don't match at all a md you're only staying together for the kids. And if you put the kid up for adoption instead of those other options then the kid's life will probably be terrible because he'll grow up with shitty foster parents who only took him in for the money and don't care about him. He'll most likely be abused throughout his life and grow up wondering why his real parents didn't want him. So yeah, people are most likely going to suffer <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:879900664] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Feline_Heart posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion is murder. But if having the kid would fuck up your life or you'd fuck up its life then you should do it anyway</quote> If having the kid was like guaranteed to kill the mother, then yes abortion is a viable option. You are messing up the child's life when you don't even give it a chance to live. Adoption exists. Government support exists. And please don't go into "adoption agencies suck." I know there definitely is a need for more reform in that area. More people should adopt children rather than producing more and the whole system needs revamping.</quote> I used to be pro life. But recently I realized that if I was in a situation where I got a girl pregnant before we were ready for it or it was with someone I didn't love I'd want her to abort it. So basically, I just don't care anymore that it's murder lol</quote> Well read the topic title and first post</quote> I did. So should people suffer for the rest of their life just because birth control and condoms didn't work like they were supposed to?</quote> So having a child is suffering now? Being alive is suffering now? Have you no faith in people? You had your choice when you had sex. Birth control or not</quote> Let's say you knock up a girl after a one night stand. You used a condom, but she still managed to get pregnant. The two of you don't know each other well, but now you're forced to have a relationship with each other because she refuses to have an abortion even though you don't want the kid. The baby is born and you're either forced to pay child support for 18 years to a lady you haven't talked to in years or you get married to someone you barley know and the marriage is terrible because your personalities don't match at all a md you're only staying together for the kids. And if you put the kid up for adoption instead of those other options then the kid's life will probably be terrible because he'll grow up with shitty foster parents who only took him in for the money and don't care about him. He'll most likely be abused throughout his life and grow up wondering why his real parents didn't want him. So yeah, people are most likely going to suffer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKFjalfe 05/27/17 8:37:17 AM #144:	Abortion isn't murder and it's never going away. Get over it. <cite>DKFjalfe posted [p:879900733] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>Abortion isn't murder and it's never going away. Get over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/27/17 8:37:24 AM #145:	Kazuma_Yagami posted... So having a child is suffering now? If the reason a woman is getting an abortion because she will be a single mother with no means of support from the sperm donor or even support from her parents, then yes, I would define that as actual suffering and condemnation to poverty for both the clump of cells within her body (that people are treating as an adorable breathing pink fleshed bundle of joy) as well as herself. (and with Republicans cutting every inch of welfare when it's already so little, all the while holding a pro-life stance for their voter base, they probably can't even think that far ahead anyway. It's all emotions to them) --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879900735] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazuma_Yagami posted...</cite> <quote>So having a child is suffering now? </quote> If the reason a woman is getting an abortion because she will be a single mother with no means of support from the sperm donor or even support from her parents, then yes, I would define that as actual suffering and condemnation to poverty for both the clump of cells within her body (that people are treating as an adorable breathing pink fleshed bundle of joy) as well as herself. (and with Republicans cutting every inch of welfare when it's already so little, all the while holding a pro-life stance for their voter base, they probably can't even think that far ahead anyway. It's all emotions to them)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz007 05/27/17 8:39:38 AM #146:	DKFjalfe posted... Abortion isn't murder and it's never going away. Get over it. there it is folks. "get over it." the debate has been settled. <cite>myzz007 posted [p:879900787] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>DKFjalfe posted...</cite> <quote>Abortion isn't murder and it's never going away. Get over it.</quote> there it is folks. "get over it." the debate has been settled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/27/17 8:40:18 AM #147:	There's not a debate to be had. Get over it. --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879900808] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>There's not a debate to be had. Get over it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoshifan1 05/27/17 8:41:02 AM #148:	People believe abortion is right for the same reasons people believe any other killing is right. Abortion will never stop until we put an end to justified killing in general, i.e. war, execution, honor killings. We've glorify war and killing since the medieval days and even further back as antiquity. Until, we end the mindset that killing is the answer to our problems, all these things will be here to stay. If you oppose one and support the others, you may as well be supporting them all. --- http://boards.gmo7897.com/index.php - Come on down and have some fun! http://www.crabdom.com/forums - Happy fun land <cite>yoshifan1 posted [p:879900821] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote>People believe abortion is right for the same reasons people believe any other killing is right. Abortion will never stop until we put an end to justified killing in general, i.e. war, execution, honor killings. We've glorify war and killing since the medieval days and even further back as antiquity. Until, we end the mindset that killing is the answer to our problems, all these things will be here to stay. If you oppose one and support the others, you may as well be supporting them all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PBusted 05/27/17 8:44:53 AM #149:	Sinroth posted... PBusted posted... Sinroth posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... CowboyDan posted... BallerXRosetta- posted... Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too. I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life. I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection. Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude. Vegans are alright, but so is abortion This board always gives me the impression that pro-abortionists are more interested in polemics than dialectics. Nothing I said really required any kind of response from you. What haha, that's exactly what you post was about, saying he's one of the good people and implying people who don't share you view are the bad people. And don't act as if the only reason anti-abortionists (and vegans if we want to be honest) exist isn't to act as if they have better values than others and being an emotional argument. Say abortion is murder. Why is that bad thing if it makes society better? Wonder if you even realize with every abortion, millions of animals are saved too. <cite>PBusted posted [p:879900933] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PBusted posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sinroth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>BallerXRosetta- posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, they're people. Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral This applies to animals, too.</quote> I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.</quote> I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.</quote> Yay, another one of us. Keep rocking my dude.</quote> Vegans are alright, but so is abortion</quote> This board always gives me the impression that pro-abortionists are more interested in polemics than dialectics. Nothing I said really required any kind of response from you.</quote> What haha, that's exactly what you post was about, saying he's one of the good people and implying people who don't share you view are the bad people. And don't act as if the only reason anti-abortionists (and vegans if we want to be honest) exist isn't to act as if they have better values than others and being an emotional argument. Say abortion is murder. Why is that bad thing if it makes society better? Wonder if you even realize with every abortion, millions of animals are saved too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MLGSerperior111 05/27/17 8:55:08 AM #150:	chill02 posted... WaterLink posted... just the same stuff that's been said millions of times over the years --- FC: 0233-0297-6306 IGN: Lucas So original, you can just feel the unoriginality of my originality. <cite>MLGSerperior111 posted [p:879901236] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>chill02 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>WaterLink posted...</cite> <quote>just the same stuff that's been said millions of times over the years</quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alkeez 05/27/17 8:57:04 AM #151:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM --- 3DS FC: 3067-6595-2576 I'm like Jon Jones, I sound like Sean Combs and I got trombone size stones like John Holmes -Chael Sonnen <cite>Alkeez posted [p:879901292] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvF1Q3UidWM</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MLGSerperior111 05/27/17 9:01:52 AM #152:	dave_is_slick posted... From humans not being animals to allowing abortions will lead to another holocaust, this topic has by far the most stupid fucking posts I've ever seen on CE, they should be embarrassed of themselves for even thinking something this fucking stupid. --- FC: 0233-0297-6306 IGN: Lucas So original, you can just feel the unoriginality of my originality. <cite>MLGSerperior111 posted [p:879901405] in I don't un... [t:75391289]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>From humans not being animals to allowing abortions will lead to another holocaust, this topic has by far the most stupid fucking posts I've ever seen on CE, they should be embarrassed of themselves for even thinking something this fucking stupid.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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