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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 1:37:03 AM
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You had your choice when you decided to have sex
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05/27/17 1:37:51 AM
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CowboyDan
05/27/17 1:38:24 AM
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/feedback?type=28
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:39:18 AM
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Same. I'm not even conservative but even I can understand that it's murder. It shouldn't take a far right guy to understand this. It should be common knowledge.
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/17 1:39:53 AM
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has anyone ever tried a Loco Moco? Every time i go to Hawaiian BBQ i see it but i always end up just getting the usual....should i try the Loco Moco?
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weapon_d00d816
05/27/17 1:40:01 AM
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Don't want kids? Never have sex!

Don't want to get in a car accident? Never drive a car!

Don't want bills? Be homeless!
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the_cajun88
05/27/17 1:43:03 AM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
has anyone ever tried a Loco Moco? Every time i go to Hawaiian BBQ i see it but i always end up just getting the usual....should i try the Loco Moco?


issa trick

you expect a loco moco and end up getting run over by a locomotive

it's not worth it
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RickyTheBAWSE
05/27/17 1:43:37 AM
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stupid terms created for short sighted reasons that are eventually misused to the point where opposers can also misuse the term using the same logic.
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:43:39 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:43:49 AM
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I don't how "pro-life" even exists.

They literally stop caring about the baby from the moment it leaves the womb
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 1:44:07 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!

Don't want to get in a car accident? Never drive a car!

Don't want bills? Be homeless!


You act like this is argumentative sarcasm but it actually holds some truth
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:44:40 AM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
I don't how "pro-life" even exists.

They literally stop caring about the baby from the moment it leaves the womb


This is a flaw on the messenger but not a flaw on the actual premise itself. So no, this isn't an excuse for murder.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:44:42 AM
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Kazuma_Yagami posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!

Don't want to get in a car accident? Never drive a car!

Don't want bills? Be homeless!


You act like this is argumentative sarcasm but it actually holds some truth


Everything holds some truth. Doesn't mean saying shit like that is any less stupid
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:45:06 AM
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BallerXRosetta- posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
I don't how "pro-life" even exists.

They literally stop caring about the baby from the moment it leaves the womb


This is a flaw on the messenger but not a flaw on the actual premise itself. So no, this isn't an excuse for murder.


Good thing abortion isn't murder, neither legally nor technically
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hockeybub89
05/27/17 1:45:51 AM
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BallerXRosetta- posted...
Same. I'm not even conservative but even I can understand that it's murder. It shouldn't take a far right guy to understand this. It should be common knowledge.

Murder is when you kill people. Fetuses aren't people and deserve absolutely no rights.
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 1:46:27 AM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
I don't how "pro-life" even exists.

They literally stop caring about the baby from the moment it leaves the womb


Yes that is literally what every pro lifer thinks why does it even exist.

Pro choice people can stop caring too. It's just some can stop caring before the baby leaves the womb.
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:47:20 AM
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Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.
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weapon_d00d816
05/27/17 1:47:21 AM
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BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 1:49:15 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.


If your relationship is ruined because you can't hold off on having sex it wasn't a great relationship
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CowboyDan
05/27/17 1:49:18 AM
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BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:49:24 AM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.


You're not missing out lol I already specified when it's acceptable.
And "it's natural" doesn't mean anything.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:50:34 AM
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BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.


They're actually not people. They're not even considered human by definition

"Human. A human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien."


Also killing =\= murder

"Murder. The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Murder is perhaps the single most serious criminal offense ."
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shnangyboos
05/27/17 1:51:04 AM
#23:


Kazuma_Yagami posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.


If your relationship is ruined because you can't hold off on having sex it wasn't a great relationship



This is a pretty naive opinion.
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:51:09 AM
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CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.


I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions are still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.
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CowboyDan
05/27/17 1:52:07 AM
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BallerXRosetta- posted...
CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.


I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions is still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.

Sure, but it's a fair accusation of hypocrisy.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:53:42 AM
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There's literally no argument for pro lifers unless they're 100% vegan and are extreme pacifists lol
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weapon_d00d816
05/27/17 1:54:08 AM
#28:


Kazuma_Yagami posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.


If your relationship is ruined because you can't hold off on having sex it wasn't a great relationship

Lol, bullshit.

Sex is extremely important for establishing intimacy. It's how you bond with your partner on a hormonal level.

And since so many people expect it, you ARE letting them down and ruining the relationship for no reason.

But don't take it from me. Take it from all the people who regret it.
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:54:36 AM
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Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.


They're actually not people. They're not even considered human by definition

"Human. A human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien."


Also killing =\= murder

"Murder. The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Murder is perhaps the single most serious criminal offense ."


That definition doesn't say anything to why they're not considered people.

And what I'm trying to say is that's it's immoral. That's why the killing of animals can also be considered immoral even if it's not technically murder.
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 1:55:22 AM
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CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.


I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions is still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.

Sure, but it's a fair accusation of hypocrisy.


No it's not. Humans are not animals
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 1:56:46 AM
#31:


CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.


I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions is still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.

Sure, but it's a fair accusation of hypocrisy.


That doesn't take anything away from their premise, though. It's like bringing up an instance where an abolitionist once owned slaves and using that as an argument to why slavery should still be allowed. It's a case of flawed messenger but what they're saying is correct.
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Turtlebread
05/27/17 1:57:02 AM
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humans are animals get over yourself
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DrizztLink
05/27/17 1:57:43 AM
#33:


Kazuma_Yagami posted...
CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
CowboyDan posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

I actually respect this perspective a lot. If you're going to be pro-life, then be pro-all-life.


I am. That's why I'm vegan but even when "pro-lifers" eat meat, their views on abortions is still correct. Bringing up their other not-so-pro-life views is simply a deflection.

Sure, but it's a fair accusation of hypocrisy.


No it's not. Humans are not animals

Then what are they, plants?
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 1:59:14 AM
#34:


BallerXRosetta- posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.


They're actually not people. They're not even considered human by definition

"Human. A human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien."


Also killing =\= murder

"Murder. The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Murder is perhaps the single most serious criminal offense ."


That definition doesn't say anything to why they're not considered people.

And what I'm trying to say is that's it's immoral. That's why the killing of animals can also be considered immoral even if it's not technically murder.


That definition actually does say as to why they aren't considered people though.... like it says exactly why.

And alright, but your opinion on morality is still just that... an opinion.
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 2:00:20 AM
#35:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Kazuma_Yagami posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.


If your relationship is ruined because you can't hold off on having sex it wasn't a great relationship

Lol, bullshit.

Sex is extremely important for establishing intimacy. It's how you bond with your partner on a hormonal level.

And since so many people expect it, you ARE letting them down and ruining the relationship for no reason.

But don't take it from me. Take it from all the people who regret it.


Yeah there you go boy. That's the problem. Everyone expects sex two weeks into a relationship. It's all about pleasing your hormonal urges you can't control rather than an actual relationship. Dating with the providence of sex sucks the rawness out of relationships. You don't talk to them just for the fun of learning about them. You talk to them with the alterior motive of getting laid
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chill02
05/27/17 2:01:00 AM
#36:


falling for garden variety bait yet again
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hockeybub89
05/27/17 2:01:42 AM
#37:


BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.

Some killing is immoral, yes. But we are talking about abortion, which is extremely useful to the good of society. Hell, I eat meat, but I would have more reservations against killing a cow for meat than aborting a fetus if push came to shove because at least a cow is a fully functional living being.
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 2:02:45 AM
#38:


Turtlebread posted...
humans are animals get over yourself


Humans and animals are both organic yes.

Humans are not animals.

Humans and animals share similarities like eating, sleeping, and procreation.

But humans are not animals.
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CowboyDan
05/27/17 2:03:14 AM
#39:


TC is delusional
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 2:03:59 AM
#40:


CowboyDan posted...
TC is delusional


CowboyDan is logical
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CowboyDan
05/27/17 2:04:31 AM
#41:


Kazuma_Yagami posted...
CowboyDan posted...
TC is delusional


CowboyDan is logical

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hockeybub89
05/27/17 2:04:42 AM
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Kazuma_Yagami posted...
Turtlebread posted...
humans are animals get over yourself


Humans and animals are both organic yes.

Humans are not animals.

Humans and animals share similarities like eating, sleeping, and procreation.

But humans are not animals.

What kingdom to humans belong to?
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/27/17 2:05:00 AM
#43:


CowboyDan posted...
Kazuma_Yagami posted...
CowboyDan posted...
TC is delusional


CowboyDan is logical

Indeed


Whatever helps you sleep at night boy
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 2:05:20 AM
#44:


TC is one of those anti science/anti facts extremists that probably believes that aliens invaded us, and that Obama was a reptilian or some shit
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Turtlebread
05/27/17 2:05:24 AM
#45:


Yes, humans are animals.

You are an animal. I am an animal. Please get over yourself.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 2:05:46 AM
#46:


hockeybub89 posted...
Kazuma_Yagami posted...
Turtlebread posted...
humans are animals get over yourself


Humans and animals are both organic yes.

Humans are not animals.

Humans and animals share similarities like eating, sleeping, and procreation.

But humans are not animals.

What kingdom to humans belong to?


The human kingdom - TC
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weapon_d00d816
05/27/17 2:06:36 AM
#47:


Kazuma_Yagami posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Kazuma_Yagami posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
Don't want kids? Never have sex!


Only this first one actually makes sense. Or at least wait until marrriage. inb4 someone thinks otherwise

Yeah just willingly miss out on an entire important aspect of life and ruin all those relationships by not willing to take it in the natural direction.

Because nuke the anthill is just such a great plan of action.


If your relationship is ruined because you can't hold off on having sex it wasn't a great relationship

Lol, bullshit.

Sex is extremely important for establishing intimacy. It's how you bond with your partner on a hormonal level.

And since so many people expect it, you ARE letting them down and ruining the relationship for no reason.

But don't take it from me. Take it from all the people who regret it.


Yeah there you go boy. That's the problem. Everyone expects sex two weeks into a relationship. It's all about pleasing your hormonal urges you can't control rather than an actual relationship. Dating with the providence of sex sucks the rawness out of relationships. You don't talk to them just for the fun of learning about them. You talk to them with the alterior motive of getting laid

You obviously don't know how it works.

Some relationships are more superficial, some are deeper. Sex does not cheapen these deeper relationships. In fact it strengthens them.

But go ahead and keep pretending like you chose to be abstinent.
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MutantJohn
05/27/17 2:06:39 AM
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Lol this topic is awesome. Humans aren't animals? I'm expecting some anti-evolution stuff next.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
05/27/17 2:07:27 AM
#49:


MutantJohn posted...
Lol this topic is awesome. Humans aren't animals? I'm expecting some anti-evolution stuff next.


TC literally believes that women came from some dudes rib bone, just wait for it
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BallerXRosetta-
05/27/17 2:08:07 AM
#50:


Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...
BallerXRosetta- posted...
Nah, they're people.

Also: >implying something has to be people in order for its killing to be considered immoral

This applies to animals, too.


They're actually not people. They're not even considered human by definition

"Human. A human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien."


Also killing =\= murder

"Murder. The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Murder is perhaps the single most serious criminal offense ."


That definition doesn't say anything to why they're not considered people.

And what I'm trying to say is that's it's immoral. That's why the killing of animals can also be considered immoral even if it's not technically murder.


That definition actually does say as to why they aren't considered people though.... like it says exactly why.

And alright, but your opinion on morality is still just that... an opinion.


It's not an opinion. It's objectively wrong that the killings of these specific types of sentient beings is wrong. inb4 you don't believe in objective morality. See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDmwPGrZkYs


I'm not even right wing on a lot of things so you can't use that to distract from the issue at hand.
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hockeybub89
05/27/17 2:08:08 AM
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Sex is a raw, animal urge. Stop putting it on a pedestal. It is just a thing humans do. Like eating and shitting.
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