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bkilla 05/13/17 1:06:02 PM #52:	QuantamLeap posted... DKFjalfe posted... TwinStars posted... AugustAdoulin posted... Well, I'd be lying if I said I was surprised. :v --- By evolving consciousness, nature has become conscious of itself. <cite>bkilla posted [p:879026639] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantamLeap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DKFjalfe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TwinStars posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AugustAdoulin posted...</cite> <quote>Well, I'd be lying if I said I was surprised. :v</quote></quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 05/13/17 1:45:01 PM #53:	DuranOfForcena posted... DoctorPiranha3 posted... What does it matter to you, personally? Are you oppressed right now? Yes, religion in the sense of deities and divinity is ignorant. Yes, there are violent extremists in the world. But let's not clump the tame people with the violent people. Violence would exist even in the absence of religion. the tame people are among the ones who enable the violent people though, by merely having the same belief system Violence would exist in the absence of religious beliefs. Humans are humans, regardless of spiritual beliefs or lack thereof. <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:879028459] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted...</cite> <quote>What does it matter to you, personally? Are you oppressed right now? Yes, religion in the sense of deities and divinity is ignorant. Yes, there are violent extremists in the world. But let's not clump the tame people with the violent people. Violence would exist even in the absence of religion.</quote> the tame people are among the ones who enable the violent people though, by merely having the same belief system</quote> Violence would exist in the absence of religious beliefs. Humans are humans, regardless of spiritual beliefs or lack thereof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 05/13/17 1:50:46 PM #55:	The Admiral posted... You guys agreeing that the nations in the Middle East, which are far more religious that the US and Western Europe, have large populations of people with brain damage? Lol --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse <cite>apocalyptic_4 posted [p:879028732] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You guys agreeing that the nations in the Middle East, which are far more religious that the US and Western Europe, have large populations of people with brain damage?</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 05/13/17 1:55:30 PM #56:	DuranOfForcena posted... DoctorPiranha3 posted... Violence would exist in the absence of religious beliefs. Humans are humans, regardless of spiritual beliefs or lack thereof. so that means we should never ever work toward not being violent? we should just let any extremist group out there be as violent as they want to be without anyone the world over lifting a finger to try to stop it? How are you going to stop violence? It's in our genetic and mental disposition to naturally form groups, clash with people who we don't identify with, and look down on other forms of thought. You solve one problem, and another will pop up. You want to lessen violence? You'd have to take humanity's weapons and tools away. We'd have to regress civilization into our tribalism days. We'd have to go back to forming cohesive units, and relying on each other wholly for survival. Violence will still perpetuate, but it won't be to the global scale. Otherwise, just accept humanity and civilization for what it is right now. It would be violent, full of extremists and dickheads, even without religion. <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:879028983] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted...</cite> <quote>Violence would exist in the absence of religious beliefs. Humans are humans, regardless of spiritual beliefs or lack thereof.</quote> so that means we should never ever work toward not being violent? we should just let any extremist group out there be as violent as they want to be without anyone the world over lifting a finger to try to stop it?</quote> How are you going to stop violence? It's in our genetic and mental disposition to naturally form groups, clash with people who we don't identify with, and look down on other forms of thought. You solve one problem, and another will pop up. You want to lessen violence? You'd have to take humanity's weapons and tools away. We'd have to regress civilization into our tribalism days. We'd have to go back to forming cohesive units, and relying on each other wholly for survival. Violence will still perpetuate, but it won't be to the global scale. Otherwise, just accept humanity and civilization for what it is right now. It would be violent, full of extremists and dickheads, even without religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/13/17 1:57:31 PM #58:	The Admiral posted... You guys agreeing that the nations in the Middle East, which are far more religious that the US and Western Europe, have large populations of people with brain damage? They have more zealots, so yeah probably. Now What? Also, the notion of brain damage making people more susceptible to religion would not be the same as suggesting most religious people are brain damaged. A mentally unstable person who plays violent video games is more likely to emulate those actions. Doesn't prove any appreciable number of gamers will emulate violence. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:879029096] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>You guys agreeing that the nations in the Middle East, which are far more religious that the US and Western Europe, have large populations of people with brain damage?</quote> They have more zealots, so yeah probably. Now What? Also, the notion of brain damage making people more susceptible to religion would not be the same as suggesting most religious people are brain damaged. A mentally unstable person who plays violent video games is more likely to emulate those actions. Doesn't prove any appreciable number of gamers will emulate violence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 05/13/17 2:00:15 PM #59:	DuranOfForcena posted... DoctorPiranha3 posted... How are you going to stop violence? It's in our genetic and mental disposition to naturally form groups, clash with people who we don't identify with, and look down on other forms of thought. You solve one problem, and another will pop up. You want to lessen violence? You'd have to take humanity's weapons and tools away. We'd have to regress civilization into our tribalism days. We'd have to go back to forming cohesive units, and relying on each other wholly for survival. Violence will still perpetuate, but it won't be to the global scale. Otherwise, just accept humanity and civilization for what it is right now. It would be violent, full of extremists and dickheads, even without religion. this post is so ridiculously and terribly wrong in every part of it that i don't even know where to begin "I have nothing to contribute, so I'm just going to call your post bad." <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:879029231] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted...</cite> <quote>How are you going to stop violence? It's in our genetic and mental disposition to naturally form groups, clash with people who we don't identify with, and look down on other forms of thought. You solve one problem, and another will pop up. You want to lessen violence? You'd have to take humanity's weapons and tools away. We'd have to regress civilization into our tribalism days. We'd have to go back to forming cohesive units, and relying on each other wholly for survival. Violence will still perpetuate, but it won't be to the global scale. Otherwise, just accept humanity and civilization for what it is right now. It would be violent, full of extremists and dickheads, even without religion.</quote> this post is so ridiculously and terribly wrong in every part of it that i don't even know where to begin</quote> "I have nothing to contribute, so I'm just going to call your post bad."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShotOJameson 05/13/17 2:10:06 PM #61:	This just in: People dealing with difficult circumstances lean on religion to help them out more news at 11 --- http://i.imgur.com/Bz19U.gif <cite>ShotOJameson posted [p:879029653] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote>This just in: People dealing with difficult circumstances lean on religion to help them out more news at 11</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorPiranha3 05/13/17 2:17:42 PM #62:	DuranOfForcena posted... no, i have plenty to contribute, but you're not worth the time or effort to do so "I had time to argue something before, but now I don't because..reasons." <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:879030017] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>no, i have plenty to contribute, but you're not worth the time or effort to do so</quote> "I had time to argue something before, but now I don't because..reasons."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/13/17 2:18:35 PM #63:	ShotOJameson posted... This just in: People dealing with difficult circumstances lean on religion to help them out more news at 11 Well that's just silly. There are plenty of techniques that don't involve worship of fantasy. We'd worry about someone if their recent troubles led them to worshipping Daedra or the Lord of Light. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:879030059] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>ShotOJameson posted...</cite> <quote>This just in: People dealing with difficult circumstances lean on religion to help them out more news at 11</quote> Well that's just silly. There are plenty of techniques that don't involve worship of fantasy. We'd worry about someone if their recent troubles led them to worshipping Daedra or the Lord of Light.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoctorPiranha3 05/13/17 2:20:57 PM #65:	DuranOfForcena posted... DoctorPiranha3 posted... DuranOfForcena posted... no, i have plenty to contribute, but you're not worth the time or effort to do so "I had time to argue something before, but now I don't because..reasons." because i'm sick of responding to someone who is as ignorant and incapable of critical thinking as you are "I have nothing to contribute, so I'm just going to call your post bad." <cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted [p:879030183] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>no, i have plenty to contribute, but you're not worth the time or effort to do so</quote> "I had time to argue something before, but now I don't because..reasons."</quote> because i'm sick of responding to someone who is as ignorant and incapable of critical thinking as you are</quote> "I have nothing to contribute, so I'm just going to call your post bad."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Volkswagen_Bros 05/13/17 2:25:45 PM #66:	DuranOfForcena posted... you guys are both f*ing ridiculous and backwards-thinking as f* if you actually think that atheism is a mental abnormality. or maybe you are just butthurt religious fundies, i dunno. but get the f* out of here with that ignorant bulls. Look at how defensive the atheist gets when called out on their flawed ideology. And for the record, no, I' am not religious. I only go to church when the occasion calls for it. Raikuro posted... Volkswagen_Bros posted... most people are predisposed to leaning towards a higher power or some sort of guidance in life. Atheists still are able to look for life guidance, they just prefer to refer to things that actually exist rather than vague superstitions. If you mean spirituality, then yes, I guess that does serve as fulfillment. And 'exist' probably isn't the word you're looking for. Perhaps physical? something tangible? empirical? Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... And what would be wrong with this exactly? Religion is laughable at best in this day and age, and there's literally zero reason to not look down on it unless you're being willingly ignorant Are you solely basing this on what you're constantly hearing about in the Middle East and others countries with a Muslim majority? Is your focus primarily on the negative aspects of religion rather than the positives? Are you representing or antagonizing an entire group based on what the bad apples do? --- Wrestling beauty Candice Michelle is the epitome of smart, sexy, and powerful* Currently Playing - Forza Motorsport 4 & PGR 4 on Xbox 360 <cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted [p:879030445] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DuranOfForcena posted...</cite> <quote>you guys are both f*ing ridiculous and backwards-thinking as f* if you actually think that atheism is a mental abnormality. or maybe you are just butthurt religious fundies, i dunno. but get the f* out of here with that ignorant bulls*.</quote> Look at how defensive the atheist gets when called out on their flawed ideology. And for the record, no, I' am not religious. I only go to church when the occasion calls for it. <cite>Raikuro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote>most people are predisposed to leaning towards a higher power or some sort of guidance in life.</quote> Atheists still are able to look for life guidance, they just prefer to refer to things that actually exist rather than vague superstitions.</quote> If you mean spirituality, then yes, I guess that does serve as fulfillment. And 'exist' probably isn't the word you're looking for. Perhaps physical? something tangible? empirical? <cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote>And what would be wrong with this exactly? Religion is laughable at best in this day and age, and there's literally zero reason to not look down on it unless you're being willingly ignorant</quote> Are you solely basing this on what you're constantly hearing about in the Middle East and others countries with a Muslim majority? Is your focus primarily on the negative aspects of religion rather than the positives? Are you representing or antagonizing an entire group based on what the bad apples do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 05/13/17 2:27:11 PM #67:	Can't open the first link, but the last 2 all point to the same peer review article here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393217301318 Honestly though, when I have the chance I would probably read it. While I don't necessarily disagree with the conclusion, these IQ tests research, however, tend to use research methods that are either usually flawed or are super controlled. --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:879030508] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote>Can't open the first link, but the last 2 all point to the same peer review article here: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0028393217301318 Honestly though, when I have the chance I would probably read it. While I don't necessarily disagree with the conclusion, these IQ tests research, however, tend to use research methods that are either usually flawed or are super controlled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TwinStars 05/13/17 3:22:08 PM #68:	Sanktu_Vyvorant posted... Zach_is_back posted... hyperpowder posted... I'm sure easier to persuade someone in believing what you believe in, if they lack brain function, or have a lower IQ. <cite>TwinStars posted [p:879033279] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sanktu_Vyvorant posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zach_is_back posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hyperpowder posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure easier to persuade someone in believing what you believe in, if they lack brain function, or have a lower IQ.</quote></quote></quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 05/13/17 3:23:41 PM #69:	DoctorPiranha3 posted... Volkswagen_Bros posted... I'd say atheism is much of a mental abnormality as religious zealots. This. Honestly, an individual who is an angry atheist that literally cares what people do or do not believe, are just as brain damaged as religious zealots. Not even close, kiddo. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:879033373] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorPiranha3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Volkswagen_Bros posted...</cite> <quote>I'd say atheism is much of a mental abnormality as religious zealots.</quote> This. Honestly, an individual who is an angry atheist that literally cares what people do or do not believe, are just as brain damaged as religious zealots.</quote> Not even close, kiddo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EternalMelodies 05/13/17 3:28:05 PM #70:	Religion is slowly dying. <cite>EternalMelodies posted [p:879033585] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote>Religion is slowly dying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zach_is_back 05/13/17 5:36:49 PM #71:	EternalMelodies posted... Religion is slowly dying. I think the internet played a big role in that. It's made us more connected and less ignorant. --- http://i.imgur.com/tvvnAvk.gif Indiana Pacers: 1-3 <cite>Zach_is_back posted [p:879040267] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>EternalMelodies posted...</cite> <quote>Religion is slowly dying.</quote> I think the internet played a big role in that. It's made us more connected and less ignorant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 05/13/17 5:42:57 PM #72:	Duh. Believing someone that loves you would give you an eternal punishment REQUIRES brain damage. Common misconception. God loves you enough to give you the choice to trust your eternity to him or whatever else you choose. Nothing else has the power to make a good eternity for you but if you want to try it, he's not gonna stop you. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:879040586] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><quote>Duh. Believing someone that loves you would give you an eternal punishment REQUIRES brain damage.</quote> Common misconception. God loves you enough to give you the choice to trust your eternity to him or whatever else you choose. Nothing else has the power to make a good eternity for you but if you want to try it, he's not gonna stop you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 05/13/17 5:48:24 PM #73:	God needs money. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:879040859] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote>God needs money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 05/13/17 5:49:52 PM #74:	DevsBro posted... Duh. Believing someone that loves you would give you an eternal punishment REQUIRES brain damage. Common misconception. God loves you enough to give you the choice to trust your eternity to him or whatever else you choose. Nothing else has the power to make a good eternity for you but if you want to try it, he's not gonna stop you. If he really loved me he'd save me no matter what :( <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:879040943] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Duh. Believing someone that loves you would give you an eternal punishment REQUIRES brain damage.</quote> Common misconception. God loves you enough to give you the choice to trust your eternity to him or whatever else you choose. Nothing else has the power to make a good eternity for you but if you want to try it, he's not gonna stop you.</quote> If he really loved me he'd save me no matter what :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 05/13/17 5:53:59 PM #75:	hockeybub89 posted... The edgy atheist in me wants to laugh, but this seems silly. I do often wonder what goes on in people's heads to make them fall for religion though. They usually just don't think about things of that depth and their sense for preservation of stability is stronger than their sense of curiosity. It makes them feel good, basically. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:879041168] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>The edgy atheist in me wants to laugh, but this seems silly. I do often wonder what goes on in people's heads to make them fall for religion though.</quote> They usually just don't think about things of that depth and their sense for preservation of stability is stronger than their sense of curiosity. It makes them feel good, basically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 05/13/17 5:56:16 PM #76:	DevsBro posted... Duh. Believing someone that loves you would give you an eternal punishment REQUIRES brain damage. Common misconception. God loves you enough to give you the choice to trust your eternity to him or whatever else you choose. Nothing else has the power to make a good eternity for you but if you want to try it, he's not gonna stop you. A book or person told you this. Highly credible. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:879041289] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Duh. Believing someone that loves you would give you an eternal punishment REQUIRES brain damage.</quote> Common misconception. God loves you enough to give you the choice to trust your eternity to him or whatever else you choose. Nothing else has the power to make a good eternity for you but if you want to try it, he's not gonna stop you.</quote> A book or person told you this. Highly credible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 05/13/17 6:02:09 PM #77:	Confirmation bias: the thread. 76 posts and not one about the study design. Granted, I didn't read it either and I'm assuming it's probably a shit design like a few others in the thread as well. But at least I won't use the article headline as an excuse to pollute the thread with my irrelevant opinion, lol. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:879041585] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote>Confirmation bias: the thread. 76 posts and not one about the study design. Granted, I didn't read it either and I'm assuming it's probably a shit design like a few others in the thread as well. But at least I won't use the article headline as an excuse to pollute the thread with my irrelevant opinion, lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mystere 05/13/17 7:33:02 PM #78:	God is supposedly all-knowing and all-powerful and yet he needs people in this thread backing him up. lol <cite>Mystere posted [p:879045952] in Study: peo... [t:75341660]...</cite> <quote>God is supposedly all-knowing and all-powerful and yet he needs people in this thread backing him up. lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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