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Kelystic
05/03/17 2:17:56 AM
#51:


but mass effect 2 is a dudebro shooter
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apolloooo
05/03/17 2:18:45 AM
#52:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
I don't understand their criteria if they consider BotW an RPG, but no other Zelda game. Maybe it's the first Zelda where you can actually see enemy HP and attack ratings for weapons? I can't recall, but that ain't enough to differentiate it as the sole "RPG" of the series.

People call anything with swords and sorcery an RPG nowadays. Game journalists are dumbass idiot who cannot differentiate one game from another. It is disgusting
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legendarylemur
05/03/17 2:27:47 AM
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Lol... Xenosaga Ep. 1 above all those better games. How and why and where?
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XXHornDogXX
05/03/17 2:28:17 AM
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If MMO's count here for whatever reason, WoW is by bar #1 based on numbers and pop culture. The Pokemon series as a whole, would come pretty damn close tho.
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Allanon23
05/03/17 2:29:55 AM
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Skyrim at 1?

wtf. The base game wasn't even that good. Mods saved it.
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legendarylemur
05/03/17 2:30:36 AM
#56:


apolloooo posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
I don't understand their criteria if they consider BotW an RPG, but no other Zelda game. Maybe it's the first Zelda where you can actually see enemy HP and attack ratings for weapons? I can't recall, but that ain't enough to differentiate it as the sole "RPG" of the series.

People call anything with swords and sorcery an RPG nowadays. Game journalists are dumbass idiot who cannot differentiate one game from another. It is disgusting

Everything you do makes you clearly stronger, your attack and defense are upgradeable through progression, gathering items level you up permanently via heart containers or stam containers or inventory, there are clear growths and a degree of playing a role, and compared to many RPGs in this list, the game lets you progress through the story however you want. Beating tough bosses and shrines gets you a randomized drop. It's an RPG. It's honestly more of an RPG than a lot of games on this list lul
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legendarylemur
05/03/17 2:33:44 AM
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Lol... fucking Skyrim at #1 is pretty laughable. I'd give the original game like 65/100 at least for the scale of the game I guess? It's really fucking badly designed and the world is desolate. Combat is laughable, the story is actually really really fucking dumb, locales are actually really uninteresting and samey, dungeons are samey, magic is really really dumb and useless, I guess the dragon shouts are interesting, for like the first 5 times you use them. Quest lines take too long for their own good that you lose focus on what the quest was even about. And mods honestly shouldn't count towards a list like this. You don't consider Super Mario World hacks as a part of SMW, why should Skyrim get some odd pass?
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ColdOne666
05/03/17 2:40:59 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Fucking Awakening?

Skyrim #1?

What are they basing this on? Certainly not quality


While i don't believe Skyrim should be first both are amazing games, you are probably a troll though.
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tri sapphire
05/03/17 2:46:36 AM
#59:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
I don't understand their criteria if they consider BotW an RPG, but no other Zelda game. Maybe it's the first Zelda where you can actually see enemy HP and attack ratings for weapons? I can't recall, but that ain't enough to differentiate it as the sole "RPG" of the series.

Not only that, but if BotW is an RPG, then Okami definitely is even more so. And Okami should rank in the top 20 at the very least.

It's a decent-ish list. I'd say about 75/100 of the games do deserve to be in the top 100. Definitely not in that order, but at least it got that much right.

Lack of Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Breath of Fire (3), and Okami make it a subpar list though.
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SavenForever
05/03/17 2:47:34 AM
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Did I really just see Xenosaga Episode I placed above Xenogears?

Game Informer never changes lol.

EDIT: I just noticed that Xenosaga Episode III, clearly the best game in the Xenosaga series, isn't even on the list.

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chill02
05/03/17 2:49:52 AM
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Also, as much as I love Skyrim, it's not by any means the best RPG of all time >_>
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Shadowplay
05/03/17 3:20:09 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
what the fuck are MMOs doing in there

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Azumininja
05/03/17 3:50:53 AM
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As much as I love Destiny, it should not be close to any RPG list FFS.
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Key
05/03/17 3:53:07 AM
#64:


Darmik posted...
1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

lol
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darkmaian23
05/03/17 4:30:32 AM
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The lack of Trails in the Sky saddens me.
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pres_madagascar
05/03/17 4:35:16 AM
#66:


Any list with skyrim as the best rpg of all time is not to be trusted.
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Makeveli_lives
05/03/17 4:37:34 AM
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legendarylemur posted...
apolloooo posted...
CaptainOfCrush posted...
I don't understand their criteria if they consider BotW an RPG, but no other Zelda game. Maybe it's the first Zelda where you can actually see enemy HP and attack ratings for weapons? I can't recall, but that ain't enough to differentiate it as the sole "RPG" of the series.

People call anything with swords and sorcery an RPG nowadays. Game journalists are dumbass idiot who cannot differentiate one game from another. It is disgusting

Everything you do makes you clearly stronger, your attack and defense are upgradeable through progression, gathering items level you up permanently via heart containers or stam containers or inventory, there are clear growths and a degree of playing a role, and compared to many RPGs in this list, the game lets you progress through the story however you want. Beating tough bosses and shrines gets you a randomized drop. It's an RPG. It's honestly more of an RPG than a lot of games on this list lul

You just described the God Of War series, Devil May Cry series, etc. Not including open world. Zelda is not an RPG.
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Alucard188
05/03/17 4:37:44 AM
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I have a hard time believing that's a real list. I mean, Horizon: Zero Dawn in the top 100 list? Not even a goddamn RPG, unless they are so liberal with their determination of what constitutes an RPG that they meant RPG mechanics = RPG.
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Alucard188
05/03/17 4:38:34 AM
#69:


darkmaian23 posted...
The lack of Trails in the Sky saddens me.


I would trust the top 100 RPGs list from rpgfan more than I would from Game Informer.
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Jet_Enduro101
05/03/17 4:46:13 AM
#70:


I'm honestly not even sure how you could just organize 100 games like this and say definitively that each one is in the correct order. They probably just took a list of RPGs they liked or reviewed over the years and scattered them about, really only paying attention to the top ten or so. I personally will never understand how people love Skyrim so much. But it's whatever. Arguing against other people's tastes in games, or lack thereof, is a fool's errand I would have no part in.
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HippopotamusRex
05/03/17 4:46:43 AM
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I'm actually impressed. The list is pretty good considering there's plenty to criticize with 100 spots.
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Vertania
05/03/17 4:59:52 AM
#72:


I'm not even sure where to begin...

71. Jade Empire
65. Mass Effect
57. Dragon Age Inquisition
45. Mass Effect 3
4. Mass Effect 2


ME1 and JE actually established universes for a story to take place in, yet "Companion Quests: The Game," which also virtually removes any sense of inventory system and dumbs down character leveling, is considered the #4 RPG of all time. Ranking them below fucking Inquisition is just...I can't...

24. Dark Souls
11. Bloodborne


Strip customization and playstyle options down to a small fraction, remove incentive to help other players (co-op covenants), simplify character leveling, and speed everything up. How does that make a better RPG?
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Vertania
05/03/17 5:10:07 AM
#73:


Jet_Enduro101 posted...
I'm honestly not even sure how you could just organize 100 games like this and say definitively that each one is in the correct order. They probably just took a list of RPGs they liked or reviewed over the years and scattered them about, really only paying attention to the top ten or so. I personally will never understand how people love Skyrim so much. But it's whatever. Arguing against other people's tastes in games, or lack thereof, is a fool's errand I would have no part in.

There are certain things that are important to being a great role-playing game. Storytelling, world building, character customization should hold more value than action-centric gameplay.
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TropicMoon10
05/03/17 5:41:13 AM
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I don't agree with Bloodborne being higher than Dark Souls but I could understand the argument for it, but the fact that it's that much higher is just lolworthy
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Blue_Dream87
05/03/17 6:33:29 AM
#75:


No Mother 3 makes the entire list complete blasphemy. If I ran a country, this abomination would be subject to the author being stoned.

Are you fucking kidding me.
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Itachi157
05/03/17 6:44:02 AM
#76:


Joke list because of Dragon Age Inquisition being on there.
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M-Watcher
05/03/17 6:45:22 AM
#77:


Well, this list is useful for finding games I should consider playing.

The order is a complete joke, though.
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Kineth
05/03/17 6:45:40 AM
#78:


No Tales of the Abyss or even Phantasia...

No SMT 3..

The list has Pokemon as an RPG and has SOTN on the list too.

I know they have RPG elements, but at the very least, Pokemon is barely an RPG. I guess putting R/B on the list is fine, but that list disappoints.

At least FFT is in the top 10.
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Solar_Crimson
05/03/17 7:04:14 AM
#80:


Kineth posted...
The list has Pokemon as an RPG...

I know they have RPG elements, but at the very least, Pokemon is barely an RPG.

Wha? Pokemon is undeniably an RPG.
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masterpug53
05/03/17 7:05:23 AM
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I figured that since this topic got made on CE, a modern uber-popular ARPG with dimishing RPG elements snagged the #1 spot, much to the imminent chagrin of CE in general. Was not disappoint, and even though I'm still playing Skyrim after all these years, I agree with the consensus.

Can't get too mad about the list overall though, since FF 6 and CT are getting the love the deserve.

Fallout 3 not only ranking that high but also ranking above NV is a travesty. Even if you want to parade around 3's 'murshen and exploration, NV trounces it in every aspect of being a Role-Playing Game.
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Kineth
05/03/17 7:43:49 AM
#82:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Kineth posted...
The list has Pokemon as an RPG...

I know they have RPG elements, but at the very least, Pokemon is barely an RPG.

Wha? Pokemon is undeniably an RPG.


I just don't view it that way. Mostly because few who keep playing the series play it for the RPG part of the game.
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Tombawocxer
05/03/17 8:08:00 AM
#83:


since when was Bastion an RPG?
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Vertania
05/03/17 8:59:03 AM
#84:


Kineth posted...
I just don't view it that way. Mostly because few who keep playing the series play it for the RPG part of the game.

That makes some sense. There's nothing really compelling about the story in the games and you're not "role playing" as much as you are building a team to compete with.

It's definitely an RPG in mechanics though. The turn-based battles, character (team) leveling, inventory management, and world/NPC interactions are right in line with RPG gameplay. Much more so than some games on the list.
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DevsBro
05/03/17 9:05:30 AM
#85:


Well this is surprising.

It's 2017 and there's still a website that would put a JRPG in their top 30.

Not surprising that their top two are J enteies Chrono Trigger and FF6 though.

FF6 is like FF7 for people who want to pretend they hate popular things.
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NeoShadowhen
05/03/17 9:06:10 AM
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Eh. If I look at it as a top 100 list and don't consider the order, it's a pretty good list. There are a couple of raised eyebrows in regards to what they consider an rpg though.
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Melonfarms
05/03/17 9:09:53 AM
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I don't agree with their #1 but I am also not about to put the work in to rearrange the list.
Good games for the most part.
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known2FAIL
05/03/17 9:10:05 AM
#88:


This list is beyond garbage. That fact that Breath of the Wild is on here at 41 is bad enough. Then you don't have any other Zelda games on here? Please. That's just one thing. I can type for days about how this list is F'ed up. Good Lord.
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spincr
05/03/17 9:13:05 AM
#89:


96. Lost Odyssey

moron list for other morons.
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DevsBro
05/03/17 9:13:39 AM
#90:


Zelda games aren't RPGs anyway.

How do you even make that mistake?
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Caution999
05/03/17 9:19:57 AM
#91:


Could Final Fantasy VI be any more overrated?

The game's story literally comes to a COMPLETE halt when the World of Ruin begins.

Sorry, that doesn't scream "best RPG ever" to me. Also, the entire magic class thing was really just an upgraded version of FFV. I really don't know why everyone loves this game. Chrono Trigger is a far BETTER RPG on the SNES. Shorter game, but as they say

Quality >>> Quantity.
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CrimsonAngeI
05/03/17 9:22:41 AM
#92:


That's not a bad list to be honest.
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ChromaticAngel
05/03/17 9:23:52 AM
#93:


Caution999 posted...
Could Final Fantasy VI be any more overrated?

The game's story literally comes to a COMPLETE halt when the World of Ruin begins.

Sorry, that doesn't scream "best RPG ever" to me. Also, the entire magic class thing was really just an upgraded version of FFV. I really don't know why everyone loves this game. Chrono Trigger is a far BETTER RPG on the SNES. Shorter game, but as they say

Quality >>> Quantity.


I mean you could argue that the story in CT stops once The Black Omen Appears

There are still all kinds of side-quest shit to do FF6 style that only become available after that event.

But lets face it, the story doesn't really stop in FF6, it just shifts from being about one single thing to being about the characters own personal stories.
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yanksfan4247
05/03/17 9:26:54 AM
#94:


Fallout 3 over New Vegas are they high?
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jborgan
05/03/17 9:28:10 AM
#95:


They didn't list Fallout 2, the best game in the franchise.

Joke list.
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darksamus1992
05/03/17 9:45:19 AM
#96:


Decent list.
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Kazuma_Yagami
05/03/17 9:45:54 AM
#97:


Where is tales of the abyss?
Or any tales game?

Garbage list
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ultimate reaver
05/03/17 9:51:04 AM
#98:


there are a few games in there kind of cool to see mentioned at all, but holy shit that top 15 is casual city
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ShadowElite86
05/03/17 10:20:15 AM
#99:


I love Skyrim but wow.....just wow at it being #1. I see so many shit lists online but I expected a little more from someone like GI.
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DevsBro
05/03/17 10:27:09 AM
#100:


I never played Skyrim but I played Oblivion.

Did they fix the game?

Oblivion would have been a fantastic game if your dude didn't come to a complete halt climbing hills or if it didn't take three hundred hits to kill literally anythibg on the default difficulty unless you read a textbook on how to make a character.
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