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Ampelas
04/19/17 6:41:45 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/just-got-huge-sign-us-161647845.html

Once they actually take this out of the Republicans docket and put it in front of an impartial committee, we'll start to see real movement in the investigation rather than dragging of heels
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Balkov
04/19/17 6:42:22 PM
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This is great news.
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FlashOfLight
04/19/17 6:43:55 PM
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Such political drama. When will it end? When will it end?
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Ampelas
04/19/17 6:50:46 PM
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FlashOfLight posted...
Such political drama. When will it end? When will it end?

When justice is served. They should lock up Trump and throw Hillary in the cell with him. Then air it as reality TV
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marthsheretoo
04/19/17 6:51:56 PM
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Ampelas posted...
FlashOfLight posted...
Such political drama. When will it end? When will it end?

When justice is served. They should lock up Trump and throw Hillary in the cell with him. Then air it as reality TV


Keep them in there until they fuck.
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unclekoolaid73
04/19/17 6:51:59 PM
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Yahoo news=fake news
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BLAKUboy
04/19/17 6:52:41 PM
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FlashOfLight posted...
Such political drama. When will it end? When will it end?

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lilJoe457
04/19/17 6:52:59 PM
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I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.
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Ampelas
04/19/17 6:55:14 PM
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lilJoe457 posted...
I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.

Uh... Trump is a puppet of the so-called "deep state"
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Axiom
04/19/17 6:56:06 PM
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Ampelas posted...
FlashOfLight posted...
Such political drama. When will it end? When will it end?

When justice is served. They should lock up Trump and throw Hillary in the cell with him. Then air it as reality TV

That would be the one reality TV show I'd actually watch
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Ammonitida
04/19/17 7:01:01 PM
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This is old "news" and fake news.
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Ampelas
04/19/17 7:06:05 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
This is old "news" and fake news.

The old news was reportedly
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-dossier-fbi-investigation-2017-3

Now it's confirmed
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Ammonitida
04/19/17 7:07:54 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Ammonitida posted...
This is old "news" and fake news.

The old news was reportedly
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-dossier-fbi-investigation-2017-3

Now it's confirmed


That's even older news. And nothing has been confirmed. CNN is not a credible source.

Besides if true this only looks bad for the Left.
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Ampelas
04/19/17 7:08:35 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Besides if true this only looks bad for the Left.

How?
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Kim Kusanagi
04/19/17 7:16:29 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Ampelas posted...
Ammonitida posted...
This is old "news" and fake news.

The old news was reportedly
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-dossier-fbi-investigation-2017-3

Now it's confirmed


That's even older news. And nothing has been confirmed. CNN is not a credible source.

Besides if true this only looks bad for the Left.


LOL "fake news" and "liberluls" in a single sentence??

Try to include some but her emails, swamp and but hillary and throw some obama in too.
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XmasPikachu
04/19/17 7:19:47 PM
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Ampelas posted...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/just-got-huge-sign-us-161647845.html

Once they actually take this out of the Republicans docket and put it in front of an impartial committee, we'll start to see real movement in the investigation rather than dragging of heels


hahahahahaha

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BWHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHA


*gasps for air*

PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA


The golden showers are real LMAO
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Ammonitida
04/19/17 7:21:26 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Besides if true this only looks bad for the Left.

How?


Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage. About as believable as Barney being a real dinosaur. There are numerous contradictions and other things that make no sense (like where is the Russian dossier on Hillary that allegedly contained embarrassing wiretapped phone call transcripts? Since according to the dossier, Putin was disappointed that the hacked emails were not turning the tide for Trump in the polls and he feared his "puppet" would lose, yet he never handed that Hillary dossier over to Trump advisors or to wikileaks).

Michael Cohen has an Iron Clad alibi for the time period that he was alleged to have met with Russian officials in Prague (he was back in the US mid-July, well before the "Page and Manafort fallout" in August/September -- the reason for the clandestine meeting and the date given by the dossier.

That means they have nothing credible to work with.

Here's the scoop from Circa news

http://circa.com/politics/fbi-probe-of-donald-trump-and-russia-during-election-yielded-no-evidence-of-crimes
Agents were able to corroborate some details in the dossier, mostly public source intelligence about meetings and decisions involving Russian figures. But much of the information about Trump and associates could not be corroborated. Some was disproven and other facts took on new connotations when additional investigation was concluded.

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XmasPikachu
04/19/17 7:22:42 PM
#19:


Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.
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Balkov
04/19/17 7:23:48 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Besides if true this only looks bad for the Left.

How?


Because they lost to the giant piece of shit that is Trump.
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Kim Kusanagi
04/19/17 7:24:47 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that!


B-but FAKE NEWS!!!1 :'(
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Ammonitida
04/19/17 7:25:45 PM
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XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.
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Kim Kusanagi
04/19/17 7:26:23 PM
#23:


Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


Cry more CNN fake news please
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Balkov
04/19/17 7:27:04 PM
#24:


Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


No, it's just proof that your Mango in Chief likes to get peed on.
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Ammonitida
04/19/17 7:27:15 PM
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Kim Kusanagi posted...
Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


Cry more CNN fake news please


Clinton News Network has no credibility here.
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Ammonitida
04/19/17 7:27:56 PM
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Balkov posted...
Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


No, it's just proof that your Mango in Chief likes to get peed on.

LOL That's not in the dossier.
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Balkov
04/19/17 7:28:32 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
Balkov posted...
Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


No, it's just proof that your Mango in Chief likes to get peed on.

LOL That's not in the dossier.


Still true.
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RickyTheBAWSE
04/19/17 7:29:48 PM
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marthsheretoo posted...
Ampelas posted...
FlashOfLight posted...
Such political drama. When will it end? When will it end?

When justice is served. They should lock up Trump and throw Hillary in the cell with him. Then air it as reality TV


Keep them in there until they fuck.


no! we must not allow them to mate. don't need baby Trumps hatching from Hilary eggs.
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Capn Circus
04/19/17 7:30:47 PM
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Ampelas posted...
lilJoe457 posted...
I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.

Uh... Trump is a puppet of the so-called "deep state"


Then they sure as hell wouldn't be scrambling to get rid of him, genius. They'd be shilling for him and everything would be just peachy.
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CowboyDan
04/19/17 7:32:33 PM
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Desperate Trump cultist sweating bullets itt
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Ampelas
04/19/17 7:33:35 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Ampelas posted...
lilJoe457 posted...
I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.

Uh... Trump is a puppet of the so-called "deep state"


Then they sure as hell wouldn't be scrambling to get rid of him, genius. They'd be shilling for him and everything would be just peachy.

It's not the deep state trying to get rid of him. The rational human beings are.
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XmasPikachu
04/19/17 7:33:35 PM
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*Sips piss*
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Capn Circus
04/19/17 7:44:01 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Ampelas posted...
lilJoe457 posted...
I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.

Uh... Trump is a puppet of the so-called "deep state"


Then they sure as hell wouldn't be scrambling to get rid of him, genius. They'd be shilling for him and everything would be just peachy.

It's not the deep state trying to get rid of him. The rational human beings are.


Are you telling me Trump and Obama are the same? Bush and Trump? Are you saying that the rational human beings are going a long with the deep state's desires to have these establishment presidents as puppets for the past hundred years without a fight? But suddenly now the rational human beings have had enough?

If so, I don't really buy that.

And if you aren't saying that, then it would make sense the government, particularly deep state government, doesn't like Trump.
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Ampelas
04/19/17 7:54:13 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Ampelas posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Ampelas posted...
lilJoe457 posted...
I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.

Uh... Trump is a puppet of the so-called "deep state"


Then they sure as hell wouldn't be scrambling to get rid of him, genius. They'd be shilling for him and everything would be just peachy.

It's not the deep state trying to get rid of him. The rational human beings are.


Are you telling me Trump and Obama are the same? Bush and Trump? Are you saying that the rational human beings are going a long with the deep state's desires to have these establishment presidents as puppets for the past hundred years without a fight? But suddenly now the rational human beings have had enough?

If so, I don't really buy that.

And if you aren't saying that, then it would make sense the government, particularly deep state government, doesn't like Trump.

Notice how Trump went so quickly from nationalist full of vigor to standard fall in line neocon when his choke chain got pulled? He's not anti establishment. The establishment hated him at first because he was one of them. They prefer having candidates in their pocket rather than being rivals to them. Once they saw how quickly Trump bent over, they revised their opinions.
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Capn Circus
04/19/17 8:13:06 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Ampelas posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Ampelas posted...
lilJoe457 posted...
I'm sure this is nothing as everything else they try to do. Their bullshit Russia claim got blown to bits now they're scrambling. And all y'all eat it up lol. Like the media and deep state are good guys. Shits actually funny how fucking stupid some people are.

Uh... Trump is a puppet of the so-called "deep state"


Then they sure as hell wouldn't be scrambling to get rid of him, genius. They'd be shilling for him and everything would be just peachy.

It's not the deep state trying to get rid of him. The rational human beings are.


Are you telling me Trump and Obama are the same? Bush and Trump? Are you saying that the rational human beings are going a long with the deep state's desires to have these establishment presidents as puppets for the past hundred years without a fight? But suddenly now the rational human beings have had enough?

If so, I don't really buy that.

And if you aren't saying that, then it would make sense the government, particularly deep state government, doesn't like Trump.

Notice how Trump went so quickly from nationalist full of vigor to standard fall in line neocon when his choke chain got pulled? He's not anti establishment. The establishment hated him at first because he was one of them. They prefer having candidates in their pocket rather than being rivals to them. Once they saw how quickly Trump bent over, they revised their opinions.


It's certainly an interesting conversation to have... I have a few questions:

If Trump was one of them, why did they need to pull his choke chain?

If they can't have him in their pockets, how are they controlling him? And why does he need to be controlled in the first place if he is one of them? And how is he a puppet if he is one of them?

From my perspective, I don't see any observable evidence of the deep state revising their opinions on him. One thing that has remained the same is a scramble to get him out of office.

There's just several missing gaps and inconsistencies in your theory that I'd like you to answer before I'm willing to hop on board and buy what you're saying.
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Ampelas
04/19/17 8:34:00 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
It's certainly an interesting conversation to have... I have a few questions:

If Trump was one of them, why did they need to pull his choke chain?

If they can't have him in their pockets, how are they controlling him? And why does he need to be controlled in the first place if he is one of them? And how is he a puppet if he is one of them?

From my perspective, I don't see any observable evidence of the deep state revising their opinions on him. One thing that has remained the same is a scramble to get him out of office.

There's just several missing gaps and inconsistencies in your theory that I'd like you to answer before I'm willing to hop on board and buy what you're saying.

I must admit, I misunderstood how committed you were to this "deep state" nonsense. To address your points

1. Trump was one of the establishment, but power went to his head and he was acting out like a child. Thus, a quick pull, and Donnie falls into line

2.Possibly threatening him, possibly appealing to his giant ego.

Let's get real a minute here. What decisions/orders/anything has Trump done that's anti establishment? Everything he's done so far has made the rich richer (or aims to)

Also about this "deep state" nonsense, I looked it up to figure out what exactly you guys were talking about and it's a conspiracy theory... So, the people who are shitting on the whole Russian connection (which actually has validity to some claims) are instead believing a ____-wing (not even right or left) conspiracy theory about the Illuminati by a different name. Found this article which sums up my feelings on the "deep state"

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/there-is-no-deep-state

Of particular agreement

The problem in Washington is not a Deep State; the problem is a shallow man—an untruthful, vain, vindictive, alarmingly erratic President. In order to pass fair and proper judgment, the public deserves a full airing of everything from Trump’s tax returns and business entanglements to an accounting of whether he has been, in some way, compromised. Journalists can, and will, do a lot. But the courts, law enforcement, and Congress—without fear or favor—are responsible for such an investigation. Only if government officials take to heart their designation as “public servants” will justice prevail.
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Capn Circus
04/19/17 9:53:54 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Capn Circus posted...
It's certainly an interesting conversation to have... I have a few questions:

If Trump was one of them, why did they need to pull his choke chain?

If they can't have him in their pockets, how are they controlling him? And why does he need to be controlled in the first place if he is one of them? And how is he a puppet if he is one of them?

From my perspective, I don't see any observable evidence of the deep state revising their opinions on him. One thing that has remained the same is a scramble to get him out of office.

There's just several missing gaps and inconsistencies in your theory that I'd like you to answer before I'm willing to hop on board and buy what you're saying.

I must admit, I misunderstood how committed you were to this "deep state" nonsense. To address your points

1. Trump was one of the establishment, but power went to his head and he was acting out like a child. Thus, a quick pull, and Donnie falls into line

2.Possibly threatening him, possibly appealing to his giant ego.

Let's get real a minute here. What decisions/orders/anything has Trump done that's anti establishment? Everything he's done so far has made the rich richer (or aims to)

Also about this "deep state" nonsense, I looked it up to figure out what exactly you guys were talking about and it's a conspiracy theory... So, the people who are shitting on the whole Russian connection (which actually has validity to some claims) are instead believing a ____-wing (not even right or left) conspiracy theory about the Illuminati by a different name. Found this article which sums up my feelings on the "deep state"

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/20/there-is-no-deep-state

Of particular agreement

The problem in Washington is not a Deep State; the problem is a shallow man—an untruthful, vain, vindictive, alarmingly erratic President. In order to pass fair and proper judgment, the public deserves a full airing of everything from Trump’s tax returns and business entanglements to an accounting of whether he has been, in some way, compromised. Journalists can, and will, do a lot. But the courts, law enforcement, and Congress—without fear or favor—are responsible for such an investigation. Only if government officials take to heart their designation as “public servants” will justice prevail.


I don't think you can claim I'm committed to some conspiracy theory without admitting your own culpability in the matter. Using words like "puppet" or phrases such as "choke chain" and Trump "getting his choke chain pulled" is complicit in believing a higher power than the president (aka "deep state"), if you will, exists.

As far as your #1 and #2 responses:

Now you're suddenly saying that power went to Trump's head the moment he got elected? If the deep state enjoyed him so much and he was one of them, there wouldn't be any controversy. They would have been complicit in his entire election.

And if he's one of them, why are they threatening him? Why does he need to be "reeled in"?

Are you saying now he was an establishment member gone defective? If so, is that a bad thing to you?

A lot of your explanations just aren't making much sense.
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Kim Kusanagi
04/19/17 9:59:57 PM
#38:


Ammonitida posted...
Kim Kusanagi posted...
Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


Cry more CNN fake news please


Clinton News Network has no credibility here.


Says you trumpanzee
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asdf8562
04/20/17 7:21:47 PM
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CowboyDan posted...
Desperate Trump cultist sweating bullets itt

Trump sheep would rather go through a mental gymnastics, claim youre a liberal for hating on Trump, and go "but Hillary." The sheep are not going to sweat over this. Anything the Orange Messiah does no matter how much its against their interest, hypocritical or corrupt, they respond with.
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Samurontai
04/20/17 7:39:34 PM
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Is this Capn Circus dude a Trump supporter? Or is he like Mal and Admiral and just happen to be supporting him a lot of Gamefaqs and also happen to never speak negatively of him in any way?
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Delta_F14
04/20/17 7:46:51 PM
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Didn't 4Chan make up this "dossier"?
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ASithLord7
04/20/17 7:47:59 PM
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Delta_F14 posted...
Didn't 4Chan make up this "dossier"?

What
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Capn Circus
04/20/17 8:03:21 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Samurontai posted...
Is this Capn Circus dude a Trump supporter? Or is he like Mal and Admiral and just happen to be supporting him a lot of Gamefaqs and also happen to never speak negatively of him in any way?

I feel like he was one of the first CEmen to embrace Trump as the savior.

Capn drank the Koolaid before it actually was Koolaid. Also, by his conversation with TC, it seems he genuinely believes there's some sort of Illuminati-like deep state out to get Trump. People like that aren't worth arguing with, in my opinion.


If you're having trouble with reading, I was largely asking TC questions regarding his theory of Trump being an establishment who had to get his choke chain pulled by some unknown entity and the explanations ending up being very contradictory and questionable---all while TC was using terminology to describe a higher force while trying to label me as a conspiracy theorist.

And yes, @Samurontai I'm a Trump supporter and @shockthemonkey is largely accurate.

I felt the tides turning long before his Republican nomination and also felt it was entirely possible for him to win.
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BillyKidd
04/20/17 8:08:10 PM
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Balkov posted...
Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


No, it's just proof that your Mango in Chief likes to get peed on.


See you're so delusional/brainwashed that you don't even know/remember what the story was. The pee story was that Trump hired hookers to pee on beds that Obama slept in. Keep ignorant.
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CowboyDan
04/20/17 10:58:30 PM
#48:


BillyKidd posted...
Balkov posted...
Ammonitida posted...
XmasPikachu posted...
Ammonitida posted...
Because the dossier is fake news and everyone knows that! The piss allegations are tabloid garbage.


Did you click on the link in OP? Turns out they're real.

Turns out you're clueless or trolling. Or both.


No, it's just proof that your Mango in Chief likes to get peed on.


See you're so delusional/brainwashed that you don't even know/remember what the story was. The pee story was that Trump hired hookers to pee on beds that Obama slept in. Keep ignorant.

That sounds like something Trump would do.
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Doom_Art
04/21/17 10:15:52 AM
#49:


@Delta_F14 posted...
Didn't 4Chan make up this "dossier"?


When the Dossier was leaked back in December 4chan attempted to get ahead of it by claiming they made it up.

Naturally no one bought it, and now that it seems that the dossier is indeed genuine, it has become a rather sorry, sad attempt at damage control.
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foreveraIone
04/21/17 10:16:48 AM
#50:


I for one would like to see how family values types will react to a POTUS that likes being peed on by hookers.
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Doom_Art
04/21/17 10:22:03 AM
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Also I would like to take this opportunity to point this out to the Trump supporters in this topic

@Capn_Circus @Ammonitida

You're aware that you can call it "fake news" and try to "meme" it all you want and that's not going to change the fact that the FBI doesn't give a shit and is treating it as genuine, right?
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