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CowboyDan 04/15/17 6:02:35 PM #104:	meingott posted... RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because Islam teaches that the Quran is the final revelation from God, and that all people need to follow it to the letter in its entirety or else. Christianity and Judaism don't operate that way. Especially in the case of Christianity. You should read the Quran. Judaism absolutely does operate that way, and Christianity is a direct violation of Jewish law. KosherMentsh posted... _Near_ posted... KosherMentsh posted... If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem. Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself. There are already different sects of Islam. Guess what bud, religions are created by man, and they are changed by man. Don't tell other people to educate themselves when your own understanding of the world is so laughably shallow. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877262054] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote> Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. </quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. </quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because Islam teaches that the Quran is the final revelation from God, and that all people need to follow it to the letter in its entirety or else. Christianity and Judaism don't operate that way. Especially in the case of Christianity. You should read the Quran.</quote> Judaism absolutely does operate that way, and Christianity is a direct violation of Jewish law. <cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote> If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. </quote> This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem.</quote> Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself.</quote> There are already different sects of Islam. Guess what bud, religions are created by man, and they are changed by man. Don't tell other people to educate themselves when your own understanding of the world is so laughably shallow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 04/15/17 6:58:20 PM #105:	Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" This is accurate, leftists are fucking awful. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:877264956] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> This is accurate, leftists are fucking awful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 04/15/17 7:16:51 PM #106:	Vertania posted... The problem is the Quran. Extremists use that line of reasoning because the Quran tells them it's the only way to be a Muslim. Yes, the root problem is the religion itself. But it won't be eradicated - it's here to stay. Get over it and promote change instead of just fucking whining about it. --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:877266055] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote> The problem is the Quran. Extremists use that line of reasoning because the Quran tells them it's the only way to be a Muslim.</quote> Yes, the root problem is the religion itself. But it won't be eradicated - it's here to stay. Get over it and promote change instead of just fucking whining about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/15/17 7:41:58 PM #107:	_Near_ posted... Yes, the root problem is the religion itself. But it won't be eradicated - it's here to stay. Get over it and promote change instead of just fucking whining about it. So, realistically, how is it suppose to change in regions where anyone who promotes change gets killed? <cite>Vertania posted [p:877267387] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, the root problem is the religion itself. But it won't be eradicated - it's here to stay. Get over it and promote change instead of just fucking whining about it.</quote> So, realistically, how is it suppose to change in regions where anyone who promotes change gets killed?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/16/17 12:16:08 AM #108:	http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/pakistani-student-killed-alleged-blasphemy-170413132802997.html Blasphemy against Islam is a sensitive subject in Pakistan, where punishment for the crime ranges from a fine to a mandatory death sentence, depending on the specific offence. Currently, about 40 people are on death row or serving life sentences for blasphemy in Pakistan, according to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Increasingly, however, right-wing vigilantes and mobs have taken the law into their own hands, killing at least 69 people over alleged blasphemy since 1990, according to an Al Jazeera tally. So again, @_Near_ and @TheVipaGTS, how is Islam realistically going to be modernized in areas like this, when people who speak out are routinely killed and/or imprisoned? <cite>Vertania posted [p:877282243] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/pakistani-student-killed-alleged-blasphemy-170413132802997.html <quote>Blasphemy against Islam is a sensitive subject in Pakistan, where punishment for the crime ranges from a fine to a mandatory death sentence, depending on the specific offence. Currently, about 40 people are on death row or serving life sentences for blasphemy in Pakistan, according to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Increasingly, however, right-wing vigilantes and mobs have taken the law into their own hands, killing at least 69 people over alleged blasphemy since 1990, according to an Al Jazeera tally.</quote> So again, @_Near_ and @TheVipaGTS, how is Islam realistically going to be modernized in areas like this, when people who speak out are routinely killed and/or imprisoned?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/16/17 12:39:22 AM #109:	KosherMentsh posted... _Near_ posted... KosherMentsh posted... If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem. Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself. You are both correct. The Qur'an itself is extreme. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877283389] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote> If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop.</quote> This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem.</quote> Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself.</quote> You are both correct. The Qur'an itself is extreme. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 04/16/17 3:40:32 AM #110:	Vertania posted... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/pakistani-student-killed-alleged-blasphemy-170413132802997.html Blasphemy against Islam is a sensitive subject in Pakistan, where punishment for the crime ranges from a fine to a mandatory death sentence, depending on the specific offence. Currently, about 40 people are on death row or serving life sentences for blasphemy in Pakistan, according to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Increasingly, however, right-wing vigilantes and mobs have taken the law into their own hands, killing at least 69 people over alleged blasphemy since 1990, according to an Al Jazeera tally. So again, @_Near_ and @TheVipaGTS, how is Islam realistically going to be modernized in areas like this, when people who speak out are routinely killed and/or imprisoned? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:877289657] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote>http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/pakistani-student-killed-alleged-blasphemy-170413132802997.html <quote>Blasphemy against Islam is a sensitive subject in Pakistan, where punishment for the crime ranges from a fine to a mandatory death sentence, depending on the specific offence. Currently, about 40 people are on death row or serving life sentences for blasphemy in Pakistan, according to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Increasingly, however, right-wing vigilantes and mobs have taken the law into their own hands, killing at least 69 people over alleged blasphemy since 1990, according to an Al Jazeera tally.</quote> So again, @_Near_ and @TheVipaGTS, how is Islam realistically going to be modernized in areas like this, when people who speak out are routinely killed and/or imprisoned?</quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rob Cesternino 04/16/17 3:54:01 AM #111:	A liberal's only argument: "They're not ALL bad" --- Stop asking me if I'm Jessica Simpson. Jewish girls Survivor is the greatest show EVER. are hawt <cite>Rob Cesternino posted [p:877289911] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>A liberal's only argument: "They're not ALL bad"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 4:10:00 AM #112:	I don't care for any religion. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877290254] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I don't care for any religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 4:10:47 AM #113:	That being said, there are over 4 million wahhabists in Saudi Arabia alone, that's almost the entire population of Ireland in number. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877290268] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>That being said, there are over 4 million wahhabists in Saudi Arabia alone, that's almost the entire population of Ireland in number.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/16/17 5:15:42 AM #114:	because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877291618] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/16/17 7:44:40 AM #115:	The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. <cite>Vertania posted [p:877294372] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians...</quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 04/16/17 9:09:02 AM #116:	recently, (well, a few weeks ago) here in Sweden, there was a politician in the party called Feminist Initiative who said "female oppression gets too much focus" in a debate of immigrant-heavy regions that deny women their freedom of movement --- http://i.imgur.com/cUNC8DI.jpg <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:877296433] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>recently, (well, a few weeks ago) here in Sweden, there was a politician in the party called Feminist Initiative who said "female oppression gets too much focus" in a debate of immigrant-heavy regions that deny women their freedom of movement</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 04/16/17 9:14:08 AM #117:	The Admiral posted... hockeybub89 posted... Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word. It's not quite that simple. "Progressives" with regressive views view any tolerance of minority groups as progress, so they have no idea their views are regressive. They think Muslims are a minority group (even though they're not, and no external group is oppressing them), so defending them is "progressive" when they're being criticized, especially when they're being criticized by folks in traditional western "power groups" (i.e. whites and Christians). In some parts of the world, Muslims are oppressed (see for example the situation in Berma). In the US, actual Muslim oppression is a strong possibility if the right continues on with its extremist anti-Muslim rhetoric. --- Russian Agent http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1477/86/1477860281404.jpg <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:877296581] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> Maybe we should stop using progressive to describe regressives then. It makes it hard when you are actually in favor of progress. This ironic usage is hurting a perfectly good word.</quote> It's not quite that simple. "Progressives" with regressive views view any tolerance of minority groups as progress, so they have no idea their views are regressive. They think Muslims are a minority group (even though they're not, and no external group is oppressing them), so defending them is "progressive" when they're being criticized, especially when they're being criticized by folks in traditional western "power groups" (i.e. whites and Christians).</quote> In some parts of the world, Muslims are oppressed (see for example the situation in Berma). In the US, actual Muslim oppression is a strong possibility if the right continues on with its extremist anti-Muslim rhetoric.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ammonitida 04/16/17 9:16:44 AM #118:	Vertania posted... The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. No, but the bible (NT) just implies that non-believers are going to hell. That can easily be twisted into calls for killing non-believers. --- Russian Agent http://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1477/86/1477860281404.jpg <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:877296646] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians...</quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> No, but the bible (NT) just implies that non-believers are going to hell. That can easily be twisted into calls for killing non-believers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 04/16/17 9:42:28 AM #119:	Vertania posted... So, realistically, how is it suppose to change in regions where anyone who promotes change gets killed? That's a complicated question. I'm not sure I have the answer for it - I never claimed I did. But what I do know for sure is that many Westerners (like you see ITT) are sabotaging these efforts to change by claiming that Islam is unable to change. This outright lie only serves to cement extremist policies. --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:877297341] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote> So, realistically, how is it suppose to change in regions where anyone who promotes change gets killed? </quote> That's a complicated question. I'm not sure I have the answer for it - I never claimed I did. But what I do know for sure is that many Westerners (like you see ITT) are sabotaging these efforts to change by claiming that Islam is unable to change. This outright lie only serves to cement extremist policies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 04/16/17 9:50:05 AM #120:	I'm not for fundamental Islamic beliefs and I personally find a lot of them to be the direct opposite of what I feel and believe about the world. Simultaneously I'm not for broad-stroked mistreatment of everyone belonging to the second largest religion in the civilized world, mass exclusion and deportations based on assumptions about faith and location, and in general really easily categorized racism. What an incredibly oversimplified presentation of a complex issue. --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:877297557] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm not for fundamental Islamic beliefs and I personally find a lot of them to be the direct opposite of what I feel and believe about the world. Simultaneously I'm not for broad-stroked mistreatment of everyone belonging to the second largest religion in the civilized world, mass exclusion and deportations based on assumptions about faith and location, and in general really easily categorized racism. What an incredibly oversimplified presentation of a complex issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 04/16/17 10:14:31 AM #121:	Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit. So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...? You are pretending that shockthemonkey said We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes. Mal_Fet disagrees with that. When he is really saying 1) We should NOT prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes. 2) This also applies to Muslims. Mal_Fet disagrees with #2. Why are you pretending that it's the first quote, when it's the second quote? shockthemonkey posted... Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post? And you are wrong for posting that reply instead of what I posted. --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". <cite>Laserion posted [p:877298326] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit.</quote> So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...?</quote> You are pretending that shockthemonkey said <quote>We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes. Mal_Fet disagrees with that.</quote> When he is really saying <quote>1) We should NOT prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes. 2) This also applies to Muslims. Mal_Fet disagrees with #2.</quote> Why are you pretending that it's the first quote, when it's the second quote? <cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post?</quote> And you are wrong for posting that reply instead of what I posted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psycho_Poodle 04/16/17 10:22:20 AM #122:	this topic blows like diarrhea from ass --- ../\|,-``\(o)_\,----,,,_.. ( `\(o),,_/` : o : : :o `-, ...I'm watching you... scum. <cite>Psycho_Poodle posted [p:877298620] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>this topic blows like diarrhea from ass</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/16/17 10:42:08 AM #123:	Psycho_Poodle posted... this topic blows like diarrhea from ass Could be worse. Could be like diarrhea from some place that is not the ass. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877299340] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Psycho_Poodle posted...</cite> <quote>this topic blows like diarrhea from ass</quote> Could be worse. Could be like diarrhea from some place that is not the ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 04/16/17 10:48:18 AM #124:	Vertania posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill You should read the Bible sometimes... You should be stoned to death for blasphemy, idolatry, or just approaching Mt Sinai at the wrong time... --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:877299545] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote>Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill</quote> You should read the Bible sometimes... You should be stoned to death for blasphemy, idolatry, or just approaching Mt Sinai at the wrong time...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChromaticAngel 04/16/17 10:51:05 AM #125:	The Deadpool posted... Vertania posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill You should read the Bible sometimes... You should be stoned to death for blasphemy, idolatry, or just approaching Mt Sinai at the wrong time... It also instructs people to be generous to their enemies and to allow themselves to be persecuted and be martyrs in the name of their religion. Now the Qur'an says several similar things, but here is the kicker. The Qur'an, unlike the bible, actually has instructions on how to address contradictions within itself. The passages that are written later take precedence over passages that were written earlier. Most of the peaceful Qur'an stuff is in the beginning and most of the violent Qur'an stuff is towards the end. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877299635] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote>Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill</quote> You should read the Bible sometimes... You should be stoned to death for blasphemy, idolatry, or just approaching Mt Sinai at the wrong time...</quote> It also instructs people to be generous to their enemies and to allow themselves to be persecuted and be martyrs in the name of their religion. Now the Qur'an says several similar things, but here is the kicker. The Qur'an, unlike the bible, actually has instructions on how to address contradictions within itself. The passages that are written later take precedence over passages that were written earlier. Most of the peaceful Qur'an stuff is in the beginning and most of the violent Qur'an stuff is towards the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/16/17 10:54:40 AM #126:	The Deadpool posted... You should read the Bible sometimes... You should be stoned to death for blasphemy, idolatry, or just approaching Mt Sinai at the wrong time... Which was in the Old Testament. If only the Quran could have a New Testament added... <cite>Vertania posted [p:877299755] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>You should read the Bible sometimes... You should be stoned to death for blasphemy, idolatry, or just approaching Mt Sinai at the wrong time...</quote> Which was in the Old Testament. If only the Quran could have a New Testament added...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 04/16/17 11:26:56 AM #127:	ChromaticAngel posted... unlike the bible, actually has instructions on how to address contradictions within itself. Jesus specifically states the old laws still apply. Look the average Christian isn't going around trying to stone people any more than the average Christian is going around turning the other cheek, hating the sin while loving the sinner on any of the extra hipster anti-capitalist shit Jesus believed in. But neither is the average Muslim decaptating infidels any more than they are donating 10% of their yearly income to the poor. Most of the world loves to say they're religious but they tend to just visit a few buildings, say a few platitudes and overall go about their lives same as everyone else. And we happen to live in a society that believes your actions are immoral, not whatever book you happen to hold in your hand when you pray. Stoning people is bad regardless of your religion. Donating to the poor is good regardless of your religion. Your religion is irrelevant to us. That's what freedom of religion means. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:877301079] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>unlike the bible, actually has instructions on how to address contradictions within itself.</quote> Jesus specifically states the old laws still apply. Look the average Christian isn't going around trying to stone people any more than the average Christian is going around turning the other cheek, hating the sin while loving the sinner on any of the extra hipster anti-capitalist shit Jesus believed in. But neither is the average Muslim decaptating infidels any more than they are donating 10% of their yearly income to the poor. Most of the world loves to say they're religious but they tend to just visit a few buildings, say a few platitudes and overall go about their lives same as everyone else. And we happen to live in a society that believes your actions are immoral, not whatever book you happen to hold in your hand when you pray. Stoning people is bad regardless of your religion. Donating to the poor is good regardless of your religion. Your religion is irrelevant to us. That's what freedom of religion means.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 04/16/17 11:37:39 AM #128:	Vertania posted... The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877301569] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians...</quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 12:06:58 PM #129:	Rika_Furude posted... because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877302885] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 04/16/17 12:09:27 PM #131:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Vertania posted... The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age? Tell that to Copernicus. Can't, he's been dead for hundreds of years. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877302990] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... </quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. </quote> By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age?</quote> Tell that to Copernicus.</quote> Can't, he's been dead for hundreds of years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 12:10:44 PM #132:	Vertania posted... The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. Tell that to Copernicus. "Well we didn't kill him, we just locked him up to teach him to think differently". --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877303041] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians...</quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> Tell that to Copernicus. "Well we didn't kill him, we just locked him up to teach him to think differently".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 12:11:17 PM #133:	CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Vertania posted... The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age? Tell that to Copernicus. Can't, he's been dead for hundreds of years. and he was imprisoned for being right where the church was not. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877303069] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... </quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. </quote> By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age?</quote> Tell that to Copernicus.</quote> Can't, he's been dead for hundreds of years.</quote> and he was imprisoned for being right where the church was not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 04/16/17 12:12:05 PM #134:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Vertania posted... The Deadpool posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age? Tell that to Copernicus. Can't, he's been dead for hundreds of years. and he was imprisoned for being right where the church was not. What does that have to do with Judaism? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877303106] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism Same way as Christians... </quote> Nowhere on that page does it answer my question. As already pointed out numerous times ITT, deflecting to Christianity doesn't work because their religious text doesn't call for the killing of non-believers. Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. </quote> By that logic, how did Judaism rise from its dark age? </quote> Tell that to Copernicus. </quote> Can't, he's been dead for hundreds of years.</quote> and he was imprisoned for being right where the church was not.</quote> What does that have to do with Judaism?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 12:15:20 PM #135:	CowboyDan posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877303254] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote>Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 04/16/17 12:48:13 PM #136:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877304760] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.".</quote> I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 1:37:30 PM #137:	CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person? Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877307252] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.</quote> I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.".</quote> I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person?</quote> Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:41:29 PM #138:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person? Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to. lol oh. You could have just pointed that out instead of continuing to argue with me after my first confused response. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877307443] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. </quote> I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". </quote> I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person?</quote> Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to.</quote> lol oh. You could have just pointed that out instead of continuing to argue with me after my first confused response.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/16/17 1:52:00 PM #139:	CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person? Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to. lol oh. You could have just pointed that out instead of continuing to argue with me after my first confused response. I didn't know you didn't realize I had done that. I was a bit confused as well. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877307966] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. </quote> I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". </quote> I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person?</quote> Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to.</quote> lol oh. You could have just pointed that out instead of continuing to argue with me after my first confused response.</quote> I didn't know you didn't realize I had done that. I was a bit confused as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:56:25 PM #140:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... CowboyDan posted... Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person? Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to. lol oh. You could have just pointed that out instead of continuing to argue with me after my first confused response. I didn't know you didn't realize I had done that. I was a bit confused as well. Ah I see. Simple mistakes from both of us. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>CowboyDan posted [p:877308189] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CowboyDan posted...</cite> <quote> Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text. </quote> I was responding to this statement "Christianity was able to rise out of its dark age because its text didn't give justification to kill and imprison people who disagreed with and tried to reinterpret that text.". </quote> I...didn't say that. You responded to a post about Judaism, I didn't touch on Christianity. Did you quote the wrong person? </quote> Which is why I deleted it and reposted it to the proper person who I meant to respond to. </quote> lol oh. You could have just pointed that out instead of continuing to argue with me after my first confused response.</quote> I didn't know you didn't realize I had done that. I was a bit confused as well.</quote> Ah I see. Simple mistakes from both of us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 04/16/17 10:59:40 PM #142:	shockthemonkey posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Rika_Furude posted... because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. ...do you know what minority means? Strictly speaking, minority means less than half. So I'd have to doublecheck, but I don't think there exists a single religion that is not a minority. --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877337716] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.</quote> ...do you know what minority means?</quote> Strictly speaking, minority means less than half. So I'd have to doublecheck, but I don't think there exists a single religion that is not a minority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 04/16/17 11:07:20 PM #143:	ChromaticAngel posted... shockthemonkey posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Rika_Furude posted... because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. ...do you know what minority means? Strictly speaking, minority means less than half. So I'd have to doublecheck, but I don't think there exists a single religion that is not a minority. As far as religion goes, the two biggest religions are Christianity(~32%) and Islam(~23%) so I don't think either could be considered a minority religion considering both together make up 50% of what people believe. http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/ --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:877338181] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.</quote> ...do you know what minority means?</quote> Strictly speaking, minority means less than half. So I'd have to doublecheck, but I don't think there exists a single religion that is not a minority.</quote> As far as religion goes, the two biggest religions are Christianity(~32%) and Islam(~23%) so I don't think either could be considered a minority religion considering both together make up 50% of what people believe. http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sphyx 04/17/17 3:11:48 AM #145:	Tmaster148 posted... I don't think either could be considered a minority religion considering both together make up 50% What... the fuck... is this?! --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:877347822] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think either could be considered a minority religion considering both together make up 50%</quote> What... the fuck... is this?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/17/17 3:15:21 AM #146:	Laserion posted... Why are you pretending that it's the first quote, when it's the second quote? Vetting immigrants is not the same as prosecuting people seeking their constitutional rights. It's a stupid comparison that only a stupid person would make. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877347918] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Laserion posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you pretending that it's the first quote, when it's the second quote?</quote> Vetting immigrants is not the same as prosecuting people seeking their constitutional rights. It's a stupid comparison that only a stupid person would make.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/17/17 8:53:57 AM #147:	shockthemonkey posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Rika_Furude posted... because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. ...do you know what minority means? Christians number around 2.4 billion. I think it's you who doesn't know what minority means. If Muslims are a minority then every religion (including Christianity) is a minority. Also, your logic @Rika_Furude used with the statement "Muslims are a minority in America therefore they are a minority globally" is not valid logic as your premise does not equal your conclusion. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877354686] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.</quote> ...do you know what minority means?</quote> Christians number around 2.4 billion. I think it's you who doesn't know what minority means. If Muslims are a minority then every religion (including Christianity) is a minority. Also, your logic @Rika_Furude used with the statement "Muslims are a minority in America therefore they are a minority globally" is not valid logic as your premise does not equal your conclusion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 04/17/17 9:14:39 AM #148:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... shockthemonkey posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Rika_Furude posted... because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. ...do you know what minority means? Christians number around 2.4 billion. I think it's you who doesn't know what minority means. If Muslims are a minority then every religion (including Christianity) is a minority. Also, your logic @Rika_Furude used with the statement "Muslims are a minority in America therefore they are a minority globally" is not valid logic as your premise does not equal your conclusion. It doesnt matter if the logic is valid. Its the logic sjws use and therefore its the morally correct logic --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:877355313] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.</quote> ...do you know what minority means?</quote> Christians number around 2.4 billion. I think it's you who doesn't know what minority means. If Muslims are a minority then every religion (including Christianity) is a minority. Also, your logic @Rika_Furude used with the statement "Muslims are a minority in America therefore they are a minority globally" is not valid logic as your premise does not equal your conclusion.</quote> It doesnt matter if the logic is valid. Its the logic sjws use and therefore its the morally correct logic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OpheliaAdenade 04/17/17 9:21:02 AM #149:	I'm a liberal who doesn't support Islam. :u What now TC? --- http://imgur.com/Q6Qj55q <cite>OpheliaAdenade posted [p:877355553] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm a liberal who doesn't support Islam. :u What now TC?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/17/17 9:23:35 AM #150:	Rika_Furude posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... shockthemonkey posted... DawkinsNumber4 posted... Rika_Furude posted... because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. ...do you know what minority means? Christians number around 2.4 billion. I think it's you who doesn't know what minority means. If Muslims are a minority then every religion (including Christianity) is a minority. Also, your logic @Rika_Furude used with the statement "Muslims are a minority in America therefore they are a minority globally" is not valid logic as your premise does not equal your conclusion. It doesnt matter if the logic is valid. Its the logic sjws use and therefore its the morally correct logic Well there are 4 million wahhabists in Saudi Arabia alone and wahhabists are extremist Muslims who take the Q'uran, hadiths, and other Islamic scripture literally. Lets use math though. If only 0.5% of Muslims were bad, how many would that be? It was 1.6 billion in 2010, I feel like it's closer to 2 billion now but for the sake of discussion lets just use the 2010 1.6 billion figure. 0.5% of 1.6 billion is still 8 million which is twice the number of wahhabists in Saudi Arabia in number, and multiple times larger than most countries' respective populations. Furthermore the more Islam grows the more extremist Islam grows, inherently even. This is true for all religions though, but the type of behavior that comes from these literal interpretations is quite gruesome comparatively. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877355666] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>because muslims are a minority in america therefore they are a minority globally therefore we need as many muslims and muslim culture in the west as we can</quote> They are not a global minority. There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world.</quote> ...do you know what minority means?</quote> Christians number around 2.4 billion. I think it's you who doesn't know what minority means. If Muslims are a minority then every religion (including Christianity) is a minority. Also, your logic @Rika_Furude used with the statement "Muslims are a minority in America therefore they are a minority globally" is not valid logic as your premise does not equal your conclusion.</quote> It doesnt matter if the logic is valid. Its the logic sjws use and therefore its the morally correct logic</quote> Well there are 4 million wahhabists in Saudi Arabia alone and wahhabists are extremist Muslims who take the Q'uran, hadiths, and other Islamic scripture literally. Lets use math though. If only 0.5% of Muslims were bad, how many would that be? It was 1.6 billion in 2010, I feel like it's closer to 2 billion now but for the sake of discussion lets just use the 2010 1.6 billion figure. 0.5% of 1.6 billion is still 8 million which is twice the number of wahhabists in Saudi Arabia in number, and multiple times larger than most countries' respective populations. Furthermore the more Islam grows the more extremist Islam grows, inherently even. This is true for all religions though, but the type of behavior that comes from these literal interpretations is quite gruesome comparatively.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 04/17/17 9:57:00 AM #151:	Mal_Fet posted... Laserion posted... Why are you pretending that it's the first quote, when it's the second quote? Vetting immigrants is not the same as prosecuting people seeking their constitutional rights. It's a stupid comparison that only a stupid person would make. So, instead of pointing that out, you pretend he said something else? --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". <cite>Laserion posted [p:877356927] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Laserion posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you pretending that it's the first quote, when it's the second quote?</quote> Vetting immigrants is not the same as prosecuting people seeking their constitutional rights. It's a stupid comparison that only a stupid person would make.</quote> So, instead of pointing that out, you pretend he said something else?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi7 04/17/17 2:03:50 PM #152:	Liberals are the greatest threat to freedom in the United States. --- Reptile <cite>Waluigi7 posted [p:877369212] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Liberals are the greatest threat to freedom in the United States.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DawkinsNumber4 04/17/17 4:44:52 PM #153:	Waluigi7 posted... Liberals are the greatest threat to freedom in the United States. I'm a liberal, see my last post though. You mean AUTHORITARIANS, NOT liberals. --- https://soundcloud.com/xsquader - http://youtube.com/xsquader http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1044-independent-politics - Independent Politics Community Board <cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted [p:877378685] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals are the greatest threat to freedom in the United States.</quote> I'm a liberal, see my last post though. You mean AUTHORITARIANS, NOT liberals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi7 04/17/17 4:51:04 PM #154:	DawkinsNumber4 posted... Waluigi7 posted... Liberals are the greatest threat to freedom in the United States. I'm a liberal, see my last post though. You mean AUTHORITARIANS, NOT liberals. I mean the freeloaders who wanna take away everybody's guns and make going to church illegal ~~Which Obama basically did already~~ --- Reptile <cite>Waluigi7 posted [p:877379072] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>DawkinsNumber4 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Waluigi7 posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals are the greatest threat to freedom in the United States.</quote> I'm a liberal, see my last post though. You mean AUTHORITARIANS, NOT liberals.</quote> I mean the freeloaders who wanna take away everybody's guns and make going to church illegal Which Obama basically did already</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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