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Lorenzo_2003 04/14/17 6:49:48 PM #55:	The absolute worst thing you can call a modern liberal is racist. The label of racist trumps everything, including sexism and violence. Liberals make excuses for murderers and pedophiles. They do not make excuses for people they perceive as racists, whether they actually are racist or not. Liberals fight tooth and nail for murderers to receive due process under the law and lighter sentences if possible because supposedly society made them that way, criminals are victims of systemic oppression and it is immoral to want to punish them. They do not feel the same way about racists and many will laugh at the notion of reasonableness and objectivity in that regard. Apparently, racists deserve to be attacked in public, be kicked out of school, have their careers destroyed and their family life turned upside down. If it was possible to put someone in prison for being labelled a racist, I 100 percent believe liberals would support that. What does all this have to do with Islam? Liberals have somehow equated Islam (i.e. a religion) with race, specifically "brown" people. Criticizing Islam is therefore an attack on persons of color everywhere, and thus racist. No statistic, no debate, no anything is ever going to overcome that thought process. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:877205622] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>The absolute worst thing you can call a modern liberal is racist. The label of racist trumps everything, including sexism and violence. Liberals make excuses for murderers and pedophiles. They do not make excuses for people they perceive as racists, whether they actually are racist or not. Liberals fight tooth and nail for murderers to receive due process under the law and lighter sentences if possible because supposedly society made them that way, criminals are victims of systemic oppression and it is immoral to want to punish them. They do not feel the same way about racists and many will laugh at the notion of reasonableness and objectivity in that regard. Apparently, racists deserve to be attacked in public, be kicked out of school, have their careers destroyed and their family life turned upside down. If it was possible to put someone in prison for being labelled a racist, I 100 percent believe liberals would support that. What does all this have to do with Islam? Liberals have somehow equated Islam (i.e. a religion) with race, specifically "brown" people. Criticizing Islam is therefore an attack on persons of color everywhere, and thus racist. No statistic, no debate, no anything is ever going to overcome that thought process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 04/14/17 6:51:04 PM #56:	eggcorn posted... b-but christians You know that's not a real retort right? If you can't understand why somebody might compare and contrast three abrahamic religions (i.e. common origin), I have to assume you have some sort of mental deficiency. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:877205689] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>eggcorn posted...</cite> <quote> b-but christians</quote> You know that's not a real retort right? If you can't understand why somebody might compare and contrast three abrahamic religions (i.e. common origin), I have to assume you have some sort of mental deficiency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 04/14/17 6:52:54 PM #57:	Vertania posted... RebelElite791 posted... Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because wanting the words of God changed paints that person as a non-believer. The Quran calls for non-believers to be killed, while the Bible (and probably Jews, idk) just says to shun them basically and let them go to Hell on their own. TheVipaGTS posted... So where in the Bible does god say this can be done? The part where it doesn't say "kill anyone who tries to change it." And that's what they're trying to change. Bro these books were written by man not god. They claimed it was gods word but it was written, changed, and adapted by man. Why are you so set on "Islam can't change!"...this religion isn't going away. You won't eradicate it. Help moderate and modern Muslims change the bull shit instead of attacking and attacking them like terrorists. millions of Muslims live and practice Islam and don't even acknowledge the violent parts of it. That should be the new direction. You aren't helping shit by keeping them in the past and trying to eliminate them. It won't happen. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:877205792] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because wanting the words of God changed paints that person as a non-believer. The Quran calls for non-believers to be killed, while the Bible (and probably Jews, idk) just says to shun them basically and let them go to Hell on their own. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>So where in the Bible does god say this can be done?</quote> The part where it doesn't say "kill anyone who tries to change it."</quote> And that's what they're trying to change. Bro these books were written by man not god. They claimed it was gods word but it was written, changed, and adapted by man. Why are you so set on "Islam can't change!"...this religion isn't going away. You won't eradicate it. Help moderate and modern Muslims change the bull shit instead of attacking and attacking them like terrorists. millions of Muslims live and practice Islam and don't even acknowledge the violent parts of it. That should be the new direction. You aren't helping shit by keeping them in the past and trying to eliminate them. It won't happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 04/14/17 6:55:00 PM #59:	Liberals aren't for Islamic beliefs. They're for religious freedom, provided you don't hurt anybody under your religion. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:877205895] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Liberals aren't for Islamic beliefs. They're for religious freedom, provided you don't hurt anybody under your religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 04/14/17 7:01:23 PM #60:	You can tell which posters in this topic have very few, if any, minority and/or Muslim friends. I have several Muslim friends, hell my sister's whole family is Muslim, and not once, have they tried to kill me/berate me/convert me for/from eating pork. You can tell who gets their view of the world from fear-mongering politicians and who gets it from actually being in it. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:877206241] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>You can tell which posters in this topic have very few, if any, minority and/or Muslim friends. I have several Muslim friends, hell my sister's whole family is Muslim, and not once, have they tried to kill me/berate me/convert me for/from eating pork. You can tell who gets their view of the world from fear-mongering politicians and who gets it from actually being in it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 04/14/17 7:02:06 PM #61:	Y'all took the motherfuckin' BAIT gj, tc. damn gj. --- http://i.imgur.com/rCECrB9.gif <cite>iamintents posted [p:877206280] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Y'all took the motherfuckin' BAIT gj, tc. damn gj.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soviet_Poland 04/14/17 7:07:35 PM #62:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... You can tell who gets their view of the world from fear-mongering politicians and who gets it from actually being in it. Pretty much. --- "He has two neurons held together by a spirochete." <cite>Soviet_Poland posted [p:877206566] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote> You can tell who gets their view of the world from fear-mongering politicians and who gets it from actually being in it.</quote> Pretty much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 04/14/17 7:10:30 PM #63:	progressives hate white people muslim extremists hate white people there you go. that's all that's needed. alliance behind that idea and as a progressive, ignore all else. --- http://s10.postimage.org/mxioonsd1/gildavatar.gif http://gifgifs.com/res/0916/57ebaeea6c7a9047727112.gif <cite>myzz7 posted [p:877206716] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>progressives hate white people muslim extremists hate white people there you go. that's all that's needed. alliance behind that idea and as a progressive, ignore all else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/14/17 7:11:17 PM #64:	TheVipaGTS posted... And that's what they're trying to change. Bro these books were written by man not god. They claimed it was gods word but it was written, changed, and adapted by man. Why are you so set on "Islam can't change!"...this religion isn't going away. You won't eradicate it. Help moderate and modern Muslims change the bull shit instead of attacking and attacking them like terrorists. millions of Muslims live and practice Islam and don't even acknowledge the violent parts of it. That should be the new direction. You aren't helping shit by keeping them in the past and trying to eliminate them. It won't happen. I'm keeping them in the past? I'm just making observations about the religious texts; I'm not the one beheading and stoning people who want to want to modernize it. I'd be fine with it if they could modernize it, but it won't happen. It's not realistic. Nobody wants to walk into an Iranian village and hand out altered copies of the Quran because they don't want to die. <cite>Vertania posted [p:877206769] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>And that's what they're trying to change. Bro these books were written by man not god. They claimed it was gods word but it was written, changed, and adapted by man. Why are you so set on "Islam can't change!"...this religion isn't going away. You won't eradicate it. Help moderate and modern Muslims change the bull shit instead of attacking and attacking them like terrorists. millions of Muslims live and practice Islam and don't even acknowledge the violent parts of it. That should be the new direction. You aren't helping shit by keeping them in the past and trying to eliminate them. It won't happen.</quote> I'm keeping them in the past? I'm just making observations about the religious texts; I'm not the one beheading and stoning people who want to want to modernize it. I'd be fine with it if they could modernize it, but it won't happen. It's not realistic. Nobody wants to walk into an Iranian village and hand out altered copies of the Quran because they don't want to die.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 04/14/17 7:17:49 PM #65:	because many modern liberals are liberal in name only. The belief structure they have isn't based in political principal, but often in cultural relativism, and post modern interpretations of power structures. And they absolutely attack Muslims who try and reform the religion like Maajid Nawaz who made the SPLCs list of anti muslim people. --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:877207130] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>because many modern liberals are liberal in name only. The belief structure they have isn't based in political principal, but often in cultural relativism, and post modern interpretations of power structures. And they absolutely attack Muslims who try and reform the religion like Maajid Nawaz who made the SPLCs list of anti muslim people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 8:01:23 PM #66:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... not once, have they tried to kill me/berate me/convert me for/from eating pork. Wow, they deserve a god damn medal for this. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877209443] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>not once, have they tried to kill me/berate me/convert me for/from eating pork. </quote> Wow, they deserve a god damn medal for this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doomcrusader 04/14/17 8:13:18 PM #67:	Why do people think Islam will "change" or "adapt" like Christianity? Christianity is a peaceful religion exploited by some to do bad things. Islam is a violent and sexist religion in its very fabric, making it the problem instead of just any bad people who follow it. --- http://i.imgur.com/tqMGw.png http://i.imgur.com/IHbuM.jpg <cite>doomcrusader posted [p:877210034] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Why do people think Islam will "change" or "adapt" like Christianity? Christianity is a peaceful religion exploited by some to do bad things. Islam is a violent and sexist religion in its very fabric, making it the problem instead of just any bad people who follow it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 8:19:26 PM #68:	doomcrusader posted... Why do people think Islam will "change" or "adapt" like Christianity? Christianity is a peaceful religion exploited by some to do bad things. Islam is a violent and sexist religion in its very fabric, making it the problem instead of just any bad people who follow it. Islam was by far the most progressive religion between the 8th and 13th centuries, and the scientific and scholarly accomplishments that came from the Middle East during that period dwarfed anything the Europeans were doing. Tragically, the Arab Muslim would had a counter-Renaissance, where the major leaders of Islam rejected (and killed) the practitioners who believed that Allah wanted man to devote his life to discovering the natural world (i.e. science). Instead, the Islamic groups that survived believe Allah wants man to devote their lives to the discovery of God. As a result, the European countries excelled and are the predominant culture in the world today, while those formerly great Arab countries are oppressive, intellectual wastelands. Even beyond that, they only culture they export today is extremism and archaic beliefs that are not compatible with western Liberal (capital L) cultural values. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877210312] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>doomcrusader posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people think Islam will "change" or "adapt" like Christianity? Christianity is a peaceful religion exploited by some to do bad things. Islam is a violent and sexist religion in its very fabric, making it the problem instead of just any bad people who follow it.</quote> Islam was by far the most progressive religion between the 8th and 13th centuries, and the scientific and scholarly accomplishments that came from the Middle East during that period dwarfed anything the Europeans were doing. Tragically, the Arab Muslim would had a counter-Renaissance, where the major leaders of Islam rejected (and killed) the practitioners who believed that Allah wanted man to devote his life to discovering the natural world (i.e. science). Instead, the Islamic groups that survived believe Allah wants man to devote their lives to the discovery of God. As a result, the European countries excelled and are the predominant culture in the world today, while those formerly great Arab countries are oppressive, intellectual wastelands. Even beyond that, they only culture they export today is extremism and archaic beliefs that are not compatible with western Liberal (capital L) cultural values.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 04/14/17 8:23:10 PM #69:	Mal_Fet posted... Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture" This is true for a lot of so-called "progressives" (the proper term is "regressives") --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:877210525] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>Progressives don't actually have progressive values. They're more accurately describes as "anti western culture"</quote> This is true for a lot of so-called "progressives" (the proper term is "regressives")</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Deadpool 04/14/17 8:26:36 PM #70:	America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it? --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:877210707] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReignFury 04/14/17 8:26:48 PM #71:	Frogles posted... because they're gigantic tools. all of them. anyone who commits solely to one side is a moron --- MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN http://i.giftrunk.com/rv4b2c.gif <cite>ReignFury posted [p:877210717] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Frogles posted...</cite> <quote>because they're gigantic tools. all of them.</quote> anyone who commits solely to one side is a moron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 04/14/17 8:26:59 PM #72:	The Deadpool posted... America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it? Because it's not the 2nd amendment. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:877210736] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it?</quote> Because it's not the 2nd amendment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 04/14/17 8:29:34 PM #73:	The Deadpool posted... America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it? Your freedom of religion ends where your support for people murdering infidels in a terrorism act begins. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877210882] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it?</quote> Your freedom of religion ends where your support for people murdering infidels in a terrorism act begins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReignFury 04/14/17 8:32:10 PM #74:	The Admiral posted... The Deadpool posted... America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it? Your freedom of religion ends where your support for people murdering infidels in a terrorism act begin. I agree with this --- MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN http://i.giftrunk.com/rv4b2c.gif <cite>ReignFury posted [p:877211040] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it?</quote> Your freedom of religion ends where your support for people murdering infidels in a terrorism act begin.</quote> I agree with this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 04/14/17 8:34:29 PM #75:	I'm liberal and I'm against religious beliefs in general and against all organized religion in general. --- (boring generic non-rotating sig because I posted from not my phone) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:877211160] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm liberal and I'm against religious beliefs in general and against all organized religion in general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/14/17 9:36:28 PM #76:	shockthemonkey posted... Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit. So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877214448] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit.</quote> So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 04/14/17 9:42:00 PM #78:	Wedge Antilles posted... I believe the attitude is less "I'm pro muslim" and more "people have the right to believe whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully and don't effect others negatively with that belief". Unless you're a conservative. Then it's PEPPER SPRAY PUNCH-A-NAZI TIME!!! <cite>Annihilated posted [p:877214760] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Wedge Antilles posted...</cite> <quote>I believe the attitude is less "I'm pro muslim" and more "people have the right to believe whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully and don't effect others negatively with that belief".</quote> Unless you're a conservative. Then it's PEPPER SPRAY PUNCH-A-NAZI TIME!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Deadpool 04/14/17 11:12:43 PM #80:	The Admiral posted... The Deadpool posted... America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it? Your freedom of religion ends where your support for people murdering infidels in a terrorism act begins. No. It doesn't. Supporting terrorist acts is illegal REGARDLESS of religion. You should also look up the IRA if you're into demonizing an entire religion for the actions of the few. --- We are living in a world today where lemonade is made from artificial flavors and furniture polish is made from real lemons. <cite>The Deadpool posted [p:877219561] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Deadpool posted...</cite> <quote>America is weird... Isn't Freedom of Religion one of the major tenets of the Constitution? Why are the Conservatives so against it?</quote> Your freedom of religion ends where your support for people murdering infidels in a terrorism act begins.</quote> No. It doesn't. Supporting terrorist acts is illegal REGARDLESS of religion. You should also look up the IRA if you're into demonizing an entire religion for the actions of the few.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Waluigi7 04/15/17 12:08:43 AM #82:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit. So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...? Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post? It's Mal --- Reptile <cite>Waluigi7 posted [p:877222121] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit.</quote> So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...?</quote> Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post?</quote> It's Mal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sami1000 04/15/17 12:15:26 AM #83:	Its unfair to discuss about Islam at gamefaqs, when anti Islam people have risk of getting modded. Say anything good and you know you'll be safe, say bad stuff and have a risk of getting warned status. --- What's cooler than werewolf? Wereman! <cite>Sami1000 posted [p:877222445] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Its unfair to discuss about Islam at gamefaqs, when anti Islam people have risk of getting modded. Say anything good and you know you'll be safe, say bad stuff and have a risk of getting warned status.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/15/17 1:33:19 AM #84:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit. So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...? Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877225766] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit.</quote> So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...?</quote> Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post?</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 04/15/17 1:34:49 AM #85:	They seem to be more pro-American values than Conservatives, the whole "Freedom of Religion" thing. Doesn't mean they AGREE with the Religion lol. You CE shitposters get worse everyday. --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:877225827] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>They seem to be more pro-American values than Conservatives, the whole "Freedom of Religion" thing. Doesn't mean they AGREE with the Religion lol. You CE shitposters get worse everyday.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/15/17 1:37:42 AM #86:	Ving_Rhames posted... They seem to be more pro-American values than Conservatives, the whole "Freedom of Religion" thing. Doesn't mean they AGREE with the Religion lol. You CE shitposters get worse everyday. Freedom of religion extends only to the point where you infringe on the rights of others Which they now sun to be against --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877225939] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ving_Rhames posted...</cite> <quote>They seem to be more pro-American values than Conservatives, the whole "Freedom of Religion" thing. Doesn't mean they AGREE with the Religion lol. You CE shitposters get worse everyday.</quote> Freedom of religion extends only to the point where you infringe on the rights of others Which they now sun to be against</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 04/15/17 7:56:53 AM #88:	shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Mal_Fet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit. So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...? Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post? lmfao yeah try reading the whole post at once Sorry, I can't really follow what the hell you guys are talking about here. But when has Mal_Fet said to throw people in jail just for being Muslim or said a person is a piece of shit for not wanting to throw Muslims who haven't committed any crimes in jail? --- https://puu.sh/tcLsT/24f4611235.png <cite>ChromaticAngel posted [p:877235123] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Also fuck Mal. He's the guy who thinks there should be no restrictions of who owns guns because we should only prosecute after crimes are committed, but if you dare apply that logic to a Muslim person then you're a piece of shit.</quote> So...We should prosecute people BEFORE they commit crimes...?</quote> Seriously? Is that really what you got from my post?</quote></quote> lmfao yeah try reading the whole post at once</quote> Sorry, I can't really follow what the hell you guys are talking about here. But when has Mal_Fet said to throw people in jail just for being Muslim or said a person is a piece of shit for not wanting to throw Muslims who haven't committed any crimes in jail?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/15/17 8:32:31 AM #89:	ChromaticAngel posted... Sorry, I can't really follow what the hell you guys are talking about here. But when has Mal_Fet said to throw people in jail just for being Muslim or said a person is a piece of shit for not wanting to throw Muslims who haven't committed any crimes in jail? They know I don't say that, but they have to pretend that I do because deep inside they know their position is indefensible unless they make believe their political opponents are worse. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877236011] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChromaticAngel posted...</cite> <quote>Sorry, I can't really follow what the hell you guys are talking about here. But when has Mal_Fet said to throw people in jail just for being Muslim or said a person is a piece of shit for not wanting to throw Muslims who haven't committed any crimes in jail?</quote> They know I don't say that, but they have to pretend that I do because deep inside they know their position is indefensible unless they make believe their political opponents are worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sphyx 04/15/17 8:46:37 AM #90:	Sami1000 posted... Say anything good and you know you'll be safe Did you think it should be any other way? --- You're so vain, You probably think this sig is about you. <cite>Sphyx posted [p:877236343] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>Say anything good and you know you'll be safe</quote> Did you think it should be any other way?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 04/15/17 8:46:43 AM #91:	I'm not because I'm actually a liberal. Right wing authoritarianism isn't my game. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:877236346] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I'm not because I'm actually a liberal. Right wing authoritarianism isn't my game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkdamental 04/15/17 11:03:30 AM #93:	I dislike Islam because -- in common with other irrational belief systems that seek to control people with myths, fairytales and superstitions ultimately backed by the threat of punishment for dissenters -- it's an ideology that fits into my ideal of a secular-humanistic liberal democracy about as well as a square peg in a round hole. But that doesn't mean you can't separate the human rights and civil liberties of the holders of a belief from criticism of the belief itself. (No ideology is, or should be, immune from criticism.) There's no contradiction between being willing to criticize Islam as a flawed ideology and being willing to defend Muslims from injustice or violence -- any more than there's a contradiction between pointing out that Scientology is a fraud and insisting that Scientologists are entitled to constitutional rights. --- /propaganda <cite>Funkdamental posted [p:877241006] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>I dislike Islam because -- in common with other irrational belief systems that seek to control people with myths, fairytales and superstitions ultimately backed by the threat of punishment for dissenters -- it's an ideology that fits into my ideal of a secular-humanistic liberal democracy about as well as a square peg in a round hole. But that doesn't mean you can't separate the human rights and civil liberties of the holders of a belief from criticism of the belief itself. (No ideology is, or should be, immune from criticism.) There's no contradiction between being willing to criticize Islam as a flawed ideology and being willing to defend Muslims from injustice or violence -- any more than there's a contradiction between pointing out that Scientology is a fraud and insisting that Scientologists are entitled to constitutional rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 04/15/17 11:07:54 AM #94:	Sami1000 posted... Its unfair to discuss about Islam at gamefaqs, when anti Islam people have risk of getting modded. Say anything good and you know you'll be safe, say bad stuff and have a risk of getting warned status. This topic alone proves thus point hilariously wrong. That, and the other posts here which criticize the Islamic religion itself and not the Muslims who follow it. <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:877241199] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sami1000 posted...</cite> <quote>Its unfair to discuss about Islam at gamefaqs, when anti Islam people have risk of getting modded. Say anything good and you know you'll be safe, say bad stuff and have a risk of getting warned status.</quote> This topic alone proves thus point hilariously wrong. That, and the other posts here which criticize the Islamic religion itself and not the Muslims who follow it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 04/15/17 11:20:19 AM #95:	RebelElite791 posted... Vertania posted... TheVipaGTS posted... Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things. The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things. Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews? Because Islam teaches that the Quran is the final revelation from God, and that all people need to follow it to the letter in its entirety or else. Christianity and Judaism don't operate that way. Especially in the case of Christianity. You should read the Quran. --- These people are literally ignorant of the law. It's astounding. As the situation escalates I will come out victorious. - DawkinsNumber4 <cite>meingott posted [p:877241708] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>Many Muslims are trying to do the same for Islam. Remove that aspect of hate and violence. Many don't agree with it all. But people like TC lump those people in with terrorists and make it impossible for them to change things.</quote> The Quran itself makes it impossible to change things.</quote> Why are all Muslims bound to the original rules of their religion but not Christians or Jews?</quote> Because Islam teaches that the Quran is the final revelation from God, and that all people need to follow it to the letter in its entirety or else. Christianity and Judaism don't operate that way. Especially in the case of Christianity. You should read the Quran.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/15/17 1:50:01 PM #96:	shockthemonkey posted... No, he supports no vetting for gun owners and opposes Muslim refugees despite vetting. For gun owners, it's only a problem once they've committed a crime. For Muslims, though? Nahhhhh. I support vetting for all immigrants regardless of their religion And by the way, I don't support allowing violent criminals to get guns What, you don't? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877248953] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>No, he supports no vetting for gun owners and opposes Muslim refugees despite vetting. For gun owners, it's only a problem once they've committed a crime. For Muslims, though? Nahhhhh.</quote> I support vetting for all immigrants regardless of their religion And by the way, I don't support allowing violent criminals to get guns What, you don't?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KosherMentsh 04/15/17 5:35:51 PM #98:	Because they are ignorant and literally believe in a thing such as "secular/moderate Islam" which by definition cannot even exist to begin with. The verses in the Quran are attributed to being the ACTUAL, VERBATIM words of Allah Himself revealed to the human mind. So it is absolute and cannot be interpreted or swept over. Islam means to submit to the law of Allah. Therefore, secular/Moderate Islam cannot exist because the moment you tey to rationalise a single verse revealed by Allah you are automatically no longer a Muslim BY DEFINITION. This stands in stark contrast to The Torah and The Bible in which only very, very few verses are directly attributed to God Himself speaking law and 90% of Scripture is actually parable and other people such as kings, leaders, apostles etc speaking or conceptualizing ideas. If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. --- Israel The Sovereign. Quote My Karma. <cite>KosherMentsh posted [p:877260534] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote>Because they are ignorant and literally believe in a thing such as "secular/moderate Islam" which by definition cannot even exist to begin with. The verses in the Quran are attributed to being the ACTUAL, VERBATIM words of Allah Himself revealed to the human mind. So it is absolute and cannot be interpreted or swept over. Islam means to submit to the law of Allah. Therefore, secular/Moderate Islam cannot exist because the moment you tey to rationalise a single verse revealed by Allah you are automatically no longer a Muslim BY DEFINITION. This stands in stark contrast to The Torah and The Bible in which only very, very few verses are directly attributed to God Himself speaking law and 90% of Scripture is actually parable and other people such as kings, leaders, apostles etc speaking or conceptualizing ideas. If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Near_ 04/15/17 5:37:50 PM #99:	KosherMentsh posted... If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem. --- http://i.imgur.com/QoIYepz.gif Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you. <cite>_Near_ posted [p:877260632] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote> If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop.</quote> This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/15/17 5:44:02 PM #100:	shockthemonkey posted... So you do support Muslim refugees being allowed in the US now? As long as they're thoroughly vetted and we aren't sacrificing resources that could be going to helping Americans, specifically homeless veterans --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877260968] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>So you do support Muslim refugees being allowed in the US now?</quote> As long as they're thoroughly vetted and we aren't sacrificing resources that could be going to helping Americans, specifically homeless veterans</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KosherMentsh 04/15/17 5:48:20 PM #101:	_Near_ posted... KosherMentsh posted... If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem. Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself. --- Israel The Sovereign. Quote My Karma. <cite>KosherMentsh posted [p:877261222] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote> If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop.</quote> This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem.</quote> Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/15/17 5:50:19 PM #102:	_Near_ posted... This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem. The problem is the Quran. Extremists use that line of reasoning because the Quran tells them it's the only way to be a Muslim. <cite>Vertania posted [p:877261331] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote>This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem.</quote> The problem is the Quran. Extremists use that line of reasoning because the Quran tells them it's the only way to be a Muslim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 04/15/17 6:02:05 PM #103:	KosherMentsh posted... _Near_ posted... KosherMentsh posted... If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop. This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem. Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself. A black-and-white interpretation on the Quran means Muslims are to execute apostates, Jews, homosexuals, and adulterers --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:877262028] in How are li... [t:75238101]...</cite> <quote><cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_Near_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KosherMentsh posted...</cite> <quote> If you spin the Quran, you cannot be a Muslim. Full stop.</quote> This is the same line of reasoning that the extremists use. You are the problem.</quote> Nope. That's the exact line of reasoning THE QURAN uses. Literally black on white for all to see. Educate yourself.</quote> A black-and-white interpretation on the Quran means Muslims are to execute apostates, Jews, homosexuals, and adulterers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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