Board 8 > So let us say humanity makes it until the sun explodes, how is the final year?

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INCEPTlON
06/30/12 8:02:00 AM
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What if we manage to survive and continue to thrive on a civilized level until the day our sun goes kaboom. What do you think the final year of humanity will be like considering the fact that all of those people at that time will know that they absolutely undeniably only have one year left to live?


This is also assuming that we are still on earth and that we have not found a technology capable of escaping or preventing this problem.

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Wanglicious
06/30/12 8:05:00 AM
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scientists around the world immediately try to figure out how to make things work. a select few will be allowed to live, the rest will riot, be drunk, commit suicide, etc. all resources on the planet will be devoted to being able to self-heat ourselves, giving a purpose to a LOT of the nukes we have in order to buy time and figure out a remedy/destroy the planet ourselves.

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Forceful_Dragon
06/30/12 8:16:00 AM
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I cannot imagine any form of technology that could provide anywhere near the amount of sustaining energy it would take to survive.


Honestly I think the best bet for outlasting the sun would involve some kind perfectly sealed off environment. Like some sort of thick steel dome the size of a very small village. And what like enough stored energy to power the environment for as long as it would last?

Would that work? Would a perfectly sealed dome be able to trap in the heat and protect it from the harsh chill of a world unaided by sunlight?

And even then it's a temporary fix.




But as for the state of the world? I think "completely shot to hell" would just about describe it. Complete and utter chaos.

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ExThaNemesis
06/30/12 8:17:00 AM
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Gotta move on to another solar system.

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junk_funk
06/30/12 8:20:00 AM
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Humanity would shine through.

There would be love and peace, and no crime or murder.

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FashnQueenEtna
06/30/12 8:21:00 AM
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The sun would expand and destroy the earth before it would explode

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ExThaNemesis
06/30/12 8:27:00 AM
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And yeah the earth would be unlivable long before the sun blew up.

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Whiskey_Nick
06/30/12 8:27:00 AM
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yeah earth would be uninhabitable long before the Sun explodes.

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swordz9
06/30/12 8:31:00 AM
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I couldn't even imagine it. If the Earth and humanity even last that long it will be so far into the future that nobody can really have any kind of idea what life would be like.

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redrocket
06/30/12 8:36:00 AM
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If we haven't colonized other solar systems by that point, we're done.

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Lich_Sandro
06/30/12 8:43:00 AM
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What, humanity's been sitting on their asses all this time?

I'd imagine one guy going "Oooohhhh, THAT'S what we should have done" before the earth's condition kills them off.

On the other hand, I can see thrill seekers using future tech to race the explosion from earth.

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pjbasis
06/30/12 11:59:00 AM
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aw yeah, going to show off my scientific knowledge by saying how there's no way humans would n-

darnit

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LordoftheMorons
06/30/12 12:01:00 PM
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Hot

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AlphaRayAllen
06/30/12 12:02:00 PM
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The sun isn't going to explode, so this question is irrelevant.

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Wedge Antilles
06/30/12 12:21:00 PM
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Whose to say that by the time that happens, we don't have the means to travel to other planets and inhabit them? Heck, we could just evacuate earth and call it a day.

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 12:22:00 PM
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In that amount of time, if we are still somehow around we really, really ought to have escaped the trappings of our solar system. I mean, Jesus.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/30/12 12:27:00 PM
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Yeah this is a very stupid question for several reasons.

1: The sun is never going to explode

2: It will be too hot on Earth for life to exist in just a few hundred million years, while the Sun won't die until 5 billion years from now.

3: We already have the technology to escape Earth if something horrible should happen. In 1000 years it won't even be an issue. In 10000 years we are probably on our way to other star systems. And in a million years, not to mention a hundred million... well look at how far we've come in the last 100 years, by that time we can probably create a new universe to live in if we haven't wiped ourselves out.
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Ryo8889
06/30/12 12:29:00 PM
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If the sun gets even a little bit bigger, Earth would become too hot to live on so...
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XIII_rocks
06/30/12 12:37:00 PM
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We'll basically all be machines at that point.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
06/30/12 12:37:00 PM
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it's all in God's plan

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dethfdddddh
06/30/12 12:39:00 PM
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Denial as religious people refuse to believe their deities would let this happen and accusations of a 'sun explosion' conspiracy.

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thundersheep
06/30/12 1:46:00 PM
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From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #017
Yeah this is a very stupid question for several reasons.

1: The sun is never going to explode

2: It will be too hot on Earth for life to exist in just a few hundred million years, while the Sun won't die until 5 billion years from now.

3: We already have the technology to escape Earth if something horrible should happen. In 1000 years it won't even be an issue. In 10000 years we are probably on our way to other star systems. And in a million years, not to mention a hundred million... well look at how far we've come in the last 100 years, by that time we can probably create a new universe to live in if we haven't wiped ourselves out.



Pretty much this, except I think your timelines are a bit off. I'd be surprised if weren't venturing outside of our solar system in 1000 years.

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Whiskey_Nick
06/30/12 1:50:00 PM
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We are gonna be forced to make inhabiting other planets a priority fairly soon, I think.

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KingBartz
06/30/12 2:03:00 PM
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I think we'd destroy ourselves before we even got close to letting the earth or sun die

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RappinHobo9292
06/30/12 2:32:00 PM
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Reapers already killed us all at that point

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Vandesdelca
06/30/12 3:50:00 PM
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Obviously we WILL have technology capable of going to other planets and inhabiting them by that point. And then we will create a New Earth. And there will be cat people. Not the sexy kind unfortunately. But people will still marry them. And their children will look suspiciously like kittens. Literally.
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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 3:53:00 PM
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Vandesdelca posted...
Obviously we WILL have technology capable of going to other planets and inhabiting them by that point. And then we will create a New Earth. And there will be cat people. Not the sexy kind unfortunately. But people will still marry them. And their children will look suspiciously like kittens. Literally.


whoever you are, you ought to post more.

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CorporalSphynx
06/30/12 3:58:00 PM
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I personally don't think the human race will survive as it is for even 50 years.

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ToukaOone
06/30/12 4:13:00 PM
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damn you kurzzweeiilll

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Rad Link 5
06/30/12 4:22:00 PM
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From: Forceful_Dragon | #003
I cannot imagine any form of technology that could provide anywhere near the amount of sustaining energy it would take to survive.

If you could imagine it, it wouldn't be super futuristic technology.

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ExThaNemesis
06/30/12 4:37:00 PM
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From: XIII_rocks | #019
We'll basically all be machines at that point.


nanomachines

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/30/12 4:43:00 PM
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Pretty much this, except I think your timelines are a bit off. I'd be surprised if weren't venturing outside of our solar system in 1000 years.

We won't be going outside the solar system until we invent the hyperdrive.

And then nobody will volunteer to do it because everyone knows the hyperdrive always malfunctions at the worst possible moment.

I don't see it happening within 1000 years.
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redrocket
06/30/12 5:25:00 PM
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Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...
Pretty much this, except I think your timelines are a bit off. I'd be surprised if weren't venturing outside of our solar system in 1000 years.

We won't be going outside the solar system until we invent the hyperdrive.

And then nobody will volunteer to do it because everyone knows the hyperdrive always malfunctions at the worst possible moment.

I don't see it happening within 1000 years.


We don't need a hyperdrive to reach the nearest systems. We could probably do it within a 100 years if we were able to maintain a 1960's Space Race level of focus on it the whole time.

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AlphaRayAllen
06/30/12 10:40:00 PM
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From: redrocket | #033
We don't need a hyperdrive to reach the nearest systems. We could probably do it within a 100 years if we were able to maintain a 1960's Space Race level of focus on it the whole time.

Well that's never happening since we've pretty much given up on space because the tech isn't there.

The tech isn't there because we've given up on space.

The cycle.

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Dark Young Link
06/30/12 10:44:00 PM
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Lots of sex.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 10:47:00 PM
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From: Vandesdelca | #026
Obviously we WILL have technology capable of going to other planets and inhabiting them by that point. And then we will create a New Earth. And there will be cat people. Not the sexy kind unfortunately. But people will still marry them. And their children will look suspiciously like kittens. Literally.

A+ post would read again.

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Wanglicious
06/30/12 10:55:00 PM
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tech is there.
government has given up on space.
private businesses haven't and will give government the finger if they want to lag behind 'em.

google: global saviors.

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psychward
07/01/12 2:37:00 AM
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Earth, completely evacuated millions, maybe even...nay LIKELY billions of years before this occurs will have it's destruction broadcast live to all 53,596 universes via omnivision direct ocular projection technology.
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Takfloyd_mkII__
07/01/12 7:24:00 AM
#39:


We don't need a hyperdrive to reach the nearest systems. We could probably do it within a 100 years if we were able to maintain a 1960's Space Race level of focus on it the whole time.

I don't think you're fully aware of the distances involved here.

With today's space engines it would take ~80 000 years to reach the nearest star, Proxima centauri.
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redrocket
07/01/12 11:14:00 AM
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Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...
We don't need a hyperdrive to reach the nearest systems. We could probably do it within a 100 years if we were able to maintain a 1960's Space Race level of focus on it the whole time.

I don't think you're fully aware of the distances involved here.

With today's space engines it would take ~80 000 years to reach the nearest star, Proxima centauri.


Using engines we've actually built before sure. But that's misleading because no one has attempted to actually build an interstellar ship yet. Theoretically, we already have the technology to build various nuclear designs that would be capable of accelerating a ship up to a substantial fraction of light speed. The main obstacle would be convincing humanity to sacrifice the enormous resources that would be required to build such a ship. Not to mention convincing them to allow huge quantities of nuclear fuel to be launched into space. But nonetheless these are obstacles that we could at least potentially overcome, unlike the prospect of waiting for hyperdrive which we are nowhere close to getting with current understanding.

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metaIslugg
07/01/12 12:26:00 PM
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It's more likely we die due to a stray asteroid than anything else. Not a whole lot people know this but we just barely dodge one last month. And NASA only caught eye of it 4 days before. It was 10 times the size of Tunguska, which is this thing that annihilated an entire rainforest and left a crater that formed a river over 40 years. Had it hit it would've wiped out an entire country.

Visiting exoplanets is still far off. Even at great speeds it would still take years. And the ship would have to be enormous, too big of a project for a bunch of puny humans, imo. Knowing us, puny patetic humans, we'd just argue about it before it being too late to react to whatever kills us off.

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redrocket
07/01/12 12:41:00 PM
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metaIslugg posted...
It's more likely we die due to a stray asteroid than anything else. Not a whole lot people know this but we just barely dodge one last month. And NASA only caught eye of it 4 days before. It was 10 times the size of Tunguska, which is this thing that annihilated an entire rainforest and left a crater that formed a river over 40 years. Had it hit it would've wiped out an entire country.


Is this the one you're talking about?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48004107/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.T_CmqpHeuVI

That article isn't making that out to be a country killer.

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metaIslugg
07/01/12 1:01:00 PM
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Its 2012 LZ1, 500km diameter.Sorry I cant open that link
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RappinHobo9292
07/01/12 1:09:00 PM
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The one in the article is 2012 KT42

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RappinHobo9292
07/01/12 1:12:00 PM
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From: metaIslugg | #043
Its 2012 LZ1, 500km diameter.Sorry I cant open that link



Also it was only 1km wide

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metaIslugg
07/01/12 1:25:00 PM
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RappinHobo9292 posted...
From: metaIslugg | #043
Its 2012 LZ1, 500km diameter.Sorry I cant open that link



Also it was only 1km wide


Yess i totally got that number wrong, meant500m,blame this awful browser Im on and me being ridiculously angry at this, AUGH I'm just gonna leave!
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