Board 8 > Does *every* reliever in college baseball suck or something?

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Seriously.

Every single game I have watched has had a plethora of runs late because the pitching can't do a damn thing right.

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Well relief pitchers are mostly pitchers lacking the skill to start.

And college pitchers are frequently pitchers lacking the skill out of high school to play professional baseball.

So college relievers probably do suck in general, yeah.

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... that's why they're relievers, right? If they were good, they would just be a normal pitcher.

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Rad Link 5 posted...

And college pitchers are frequently pitchers lacking the skill out of high school to play professional baseball.

Uh...how many high school pitchers in history have gone straight to high level minor league baseball or the majors? Because I'm pretty sure Stephen Strasburg is literally the only one in history.

That's like asking if all FG kickers in college football suck.


"Yes"

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From: TimJab | #004
Uh...how many high school pitchers in history have gone straight to high level minor league baseball or the majors? Because I'm pretty sure Stephen Strasburg is literally the only one in history.
1) No.
2) Low level minor league baseball is still professional baseball.

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So "because they suck" is the only reason pitchers choose an education over years of toiling in the minors?

A 22 year old who just finished college is a lot more major league ready than an 18 year old. With baseball's astronomical rate of failure, I'd much rather secure a degree and then take my shot at the majors than spend my life like Crash Davis. The #1 pick in last year's Draft, Gerrit Cole, got drafted by the Yankees out of high school and turned them down to go to school and refine his game instead of doing it while playing for some bumble**** Single-A team. He was considered the #1 talent out of high school too, the only reason he fell to the Yankees was because teams knew he had his sights set on school and the Yankees decided to take a flier and try to land a #1 talent in the 30s by offering him a big contract. He turned them down.

Cole had enough money that he wouldn't have to worry about it even if he flamed out. Not only were his parents rich, but the Yankees offered him a huge deal. He actually risked losing a lot of money by going to college. Though for many people it would make sense to go to college, especially with the new CBA that limits draft bonuses.

As for the initial question, yes they suck, because most of the best relievers in MLB were at least good enough to start in college or the low minors. College relievers are a lot less likely to be potential MLB prospects, I would think.

Xuxon posted...

He actually risked losing a lot of money by going to college.

That's kind of my point. He went to college for a reason other than "he sucks". Now even if he flames out, which is unlikely, he still has a degree and won't end up like Brien Taylor.

My point was that he wasn't at risk of ending up screwed even if he flamed out, because his signing bonus from the Yankees would have set him up for life anyway. He was being paid up-front decades worth of work from a good job that could be gotten with a college degree. So he's not as good of an example of as someone who would turn down like, 500k, who could not only get the insurance of a degree, but possibly be in line for a much bigger bonus coming out of college.

I was using him more as an example of somebody that has the talent to go to the majors right away but still chooses to go to college.

And the Yankees signing bonus was only rumored to be $4 million. That's not really enough to set you up for life these days, especially in the hands of an 18 year old.

Kentucky's bullpen was outstanding this season. Their hitting let them down.

Florida State has an excellent closer but fairly poor middle relief.

So maybe!

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