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TopicWhen "cultured" cinema viewers say The Dark Knight Rises was great
SwayM
04/18/24 12:13:02 PM
#50:


Doe posted...


Like yes TDKR is flawed and not as good as TDK but people pretend it ruined their lives or something.

Calm down.

First, I'm one of the biggest defenders of any media, most people know me for this. I try to enjoy things regardless. But some things are indefensible.

All I described it as "phoned in" because that's exactly what it is. It has the skeleton of a great movie, and after making 2 really good Batman movies, Nolan should have knocked this one out of the park. Instead, we get very wooden performances, extremely baffling dialogue and line delivery. Horribly executed fight sequences and a slew of other problems.

https://youtu.be/dzDe90df4eo?si=k0Kc-qTA8wxTadZR

I mean this clip alone from the OP has enough examples of all of those things. Yeah a person can nitpick the slapstick comedy fighting in the background. But even just the blocking of the characters is a baffling choice. The way Batman and Bane are standing and the position of the camera, this feels like a 16 year olds home movie of Batman. Not Christopher fucking Nolan's third entry into a billion dollar, beloved Batman franchise. It feels extremely "cheap" like there's zero heart that went into this film.

https://youtu.be/arty9MuqEg0?si=3P4d9jfa8BZOFx0f

And this scene that you linked. The dialogue in this is NOTORIOUSLY awkard.

Bane : It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
[the Agent removes the hood]
Bane : No one cared who I was until I put on the mask.
CIA Agent : If I pull that off, would you die?
Bane : It would be extremely painful.
CIA Agent : You're a big guy!
Bane : For you.

None of these lines flow together, most of it doesn't make sense, and it ends up so disjointed and awkward. It's so close to something awesome. "No one cared who I was until I put on the mask" has become an iconic line and taken out of context it's fantastic. But watch the damn scene. It's horrible. it's so undeserved in this scene because...no one fucking asked? Like why couldn't the agent just say something acknowledge the mask to warrant this response? Such weird choices here.

And "It would be extremely Painful...for you" would be another great line with great delivery, but wtf is "You're a big guy" even doing cutting through the middle of that dialogue?? Horrible line, and ruins it completely.

To me it's cleearly Tom Hardy ADR'd waaay different lines than the scene they shot and the end result is a crap shoot.

I think the whole movie suffers from a combination of Nolan's heart wasn't in this one, and the editing team slapped together a first draft that somehow made it to theatres. Some better editing and maybe a couple reshoots could have saved it.

But unfortunately, the end product we got was phoned the fuck in.

imho

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