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TopicRate the Ace Attorney case: The Grand Turnabout (E2-5)
Bitto
04/17/24 8:25:57 PM
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Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PiEuURt1qf19VoYzcFCU1EFa8uqs2teJiVcip7JmjDw/edit?usp=sharing

Previous Results:

Bridge to the Turnabout (3-5) - 9.8 (37 votes)
Farewell, My Turnabout (2-4) - 9.7 (30 votes)
Turnabout Goodbyes (1-4) - 9.2 (32 votes)
The Inherited Turnabout (E2-3) - 8.5 (16 votes)
Turnabout Beginnings (3-4) - 8.4 (26 votes)
Rise from the Ashes (1-5) - 8.2 (28 votes)
The Stolen Turnabout (3-2) - 8.2 (24 votes)
Turnabout Samurai (1-3) - 7.4 (29 votes)
Turnabout Memories (3-1) - 7.4 (30 votes)
Turnabout Target (E2-1) - 7.1 (17 votes)
Turnabout Trump (4-1) - 6.9 (25 votes)
Recipe for Turnabout (3-3) - 6.6 (27 votes)
Reunion, and Turnabout (2-2) - 6.5 (25 votes)
Turnabout Ablaze (E1-5) - 6.0 (19 votes)
Turnabout Sisters (1-2) - 5.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Reminiscence (E1-4) - 5.6 (22 votes)
The Imprisoned Turnabout (E2-2) - 5.3 (16 votes)
The Forgotten Turnabout (E2-4) - 5.3 (14 votes)
Turnabout Visitor (E1-1) - 5.0 (20 votes)
The First Turnabout (1-1) - 4.9 (25 votes)
The Kidnapped Turnabout (E1-3) - 4.6 (22 votes)
Turnabout Airlines (E1-2) - 4.2 (22 votes)
Turnabout Corner (4-2) - 4.0 (25 votes)
Turnabout Big Top (2-3) - 3.7 (25 votes)
Turnabout Succession (4-4) - 3.5 (24 votes)
The Lost Turnabout (2-1) - 3.3 (27 votes)
Turnabout Serenade (4-3) - 2.7 (24 votes)

E2-4 ties with E2-2. Mostly everyone liked the Courtney face turn. However, the amnesia plot had a lot of mixed opinions. Some thought it led to really strong Edgeworth/Kay dynamics, culminating in Edgeworth choosing his relationships over his badge. Others felt it wasn't used very well and is a weak plot line.

While I've been using the Prosecutor's Path names and translation, I went through AAI2 through the dowolf translation, which I really liked. The name in that translation, Turnabout Oblivion, feels a lot more apt than The Forgotten Turnabout. And Blaise being named Oswald leads to some nice lines with his nickname being Ozzie.

Summary:

No more than a few hours after their last close call, Edgeworth and Kay stumble onto a new, high profile murder investigation. And a kidnapping. And another kidnapping? And another murder? Edgeworth goes all out to solve this final case, relearning what being a prosecutor really means to him all over again.

Main Characters: Miles Edgeworth, Dick Gumshoe, Kay Faraday, Raymond Shields, Justine Courtney, Sebastian Debeste, Franziska von Karma, Shi-Long Lang
Other Characters: Di-Jun Huang, Penny Nichols, Will Powers, John Marsh, Patricia Roland, Blaise Debeste, Nicole Swift, Lotta Hart, Regina Berry, Simon Keyes, Sirhan Dogen, Shelley de Killer, Jack Cameron, The Body Double, Horace Knightley, Pierre Hoquet, Dane Gustavia, The Mastermind

My rating: 9/10. The Grand Turnabout, indeed. This is a highly ambitious case and it meets those ambitions...at the beginning and the end of the case. The middle, though, can really drag. There's a BUNCH crammed in this case, mostly by design. I'll tackle the big threads.

Debeste's face turn and the trials: Great and terrible. Everything to do with Sebastian Debeste is really fun and he earns his face turn here. I...think it might have been better to put this in E2-4 simply because this case is too bloated, but it also helps to see Sebastian by Blaise's side in E2-4 and decisively turn on him here. The trials, on the other hand, are simply terrible. As Anagram mentioned last topic, Shields is just blatantly not following his duties and it just feels...really wrong. The pacing is brutal too. I do appreciate that Blaise continues to be deeply incompetent, though.

The murder and the evil Yatagarasu: Huang is a really interesting victim, made even more interesting when you learn that it's the body double. Patricia, Blaise, and the Body Double is a pretty neat group of victims, but...it's pretty weird that they're all complete jobbers. Patricia's sympathy in E2-2 pretty much goes out the door when you realize she's a monster. I really like the Moozilla stomp murder scene and how it actually turned out to be a Goomba stomp kill. I always appreciate a theatrical murder scene.

The mastermind: I think this will really color how much you love this case. Keyes is probably my favorite game-long villain and the game does a great job of making him a monster, but also showing how much of this was outside the bound of his control. Keyes himself obviously has a ton of really fun animations and figuring out who exactly the mastermind is is really fun, especially since this case brings literally the entire cast out. I don't really like Dogen being Keyes' parental substitute. I think that's fine...but why does it need to be an assassin? de Killer and Dogen walking out of a tent surrounded by law enforcement is also pretty bad, a clear visual indication of how untouchable assassins are in Ace Attorney.

The emotional highlights: Generally, the Ace Attorney games have throughlines in them overarching the game. AAI2 has both a throughline regarding the mastermind, but also a throughline regarding fatherhood. I really enjoyed this part of AAI2 and it really culminates in this case in regards to Keyes. I just want to mention how much I love that aspect of AAI2. Oh, and Gumshoe getting a raise in his final appearance so far in the series feels...appropriate.

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