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rockus 04/17/24 8:24:48 PM #474:	Snake5555555555 posted... But ultimately, a good story is a good story. I will also touch on this by expanding that a good story doesn't necessarily mean it has to be a good plot. Going back to Tetsuo for example, which I think is more than just dumb fun or a chaotic mess, I think it's a genuinely brilliant film. There's a Kafka-esque sense of absurdity to it, I think I mentioned earlier relating it somewhat to his Metamorphosis. I understand that some people might be put off by the lack of explanations or even really much of a plot driving it but I find that if a film can express its ideas, what it has to say, through its images, characters, or whathaveyou, then it can still very much be a success. But as for Tetsuo I think there's something there about the overpowering impact industrial and technological ages have had on Japan in general and you could look at the film in that way to get a lot out of it, not even to mention the psychological sexual layers to it, but still with a kind of sense of humor about it, and it's also just really impressive on a craft level for something that's such a low budget. But I just mention that because a lot of people will talk about how story, as in a plot, is the most important thing for a movie, and I've seen that lot here in previous topics and if we're just talking about plot, I'd have to disagree. A plot is just one of the many elements that a film will use to communicate its ideas. That's why for example Pet Semetary which has a pretty good plot that does a very good job of getting its themes across about man's ability, or rather inability, to confront mortality probably isn't one of the best movies in this lineup because there are a lot of other elements from the craft of the film, to individual scene writing, and probably the need for some characters with more depth to them that keeps it, for me, on the lower end of the list. Not to say people who really like Pet Semetary are wrong, that's just the example I was using for my argument on plot in a film. --- http://thetramp.filmaf.com/owned https://vimeo.com/402818980 <cite>rockus posted [p:979967939] in Board 8 Wa... [t:80742522]...</cite> <quote>Snake5555555555 posted... </cite><quote>But ultimately, a good story is a good story.</quote>I will also touch on this by expanding that a good story doesn't necessarily mean it has to be a good plot. Going back to Tetsuo for example, which I think is more than just dumb fun or a chaotic mess, I think it's a genuinely brilliant film. There's a Kafka-esque sense of absurdity to it, I think I mentioned earlier relating it somewhat to his Metamorphosis. I understand that some people might be put off by the lack of explanations or even really much of a plot driving it but I find that if a film can express its ideas, what it has to say, through its images, characters, or whathaveyou, then it can still very much be a success. But as for Tetsuo I think there's something there about the overpowering impact industrial and technological ages have had on Japan in general and you could look at the film in that way to get a lot out of it, not even to mention the psychological sexual layers to it, but still with a kind of sense of humor about it, and it's also just really impressive on a craft level for something that's such a low budget.But I just mention that because a lot of people will talk about how story, as in a plot, is the most important thing for a movie, and I've seen that lot here in previous topics and if we're just talking about plot, I'd have to disagree. A plot is just one of the many elements that a film will use to communicate its ideas. That's why for example Pet Semetary which has a pretty good plot that does a very good job of getting its themes across about man's ability, or rather inability, to confront mortality probably isn't one of the best movies in this lineup because there are a lot of other elements from the craft of the film, to individual scene writing, and probably the need for some characters with more depth to them that keeps it, for me, on the lower end of the list. Not to say people who really like Pet Semetary are wrong, that's just the example I was using for my argument on plot in a film. --- http://thetramp.filmaf.com/owned https://vimeo.com/402818980</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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