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andel posted...

every single united states president in recent history has supported israel and every single major candidate supported them as recently as the last presidential election. congress widely supports israel on both sides of the aisle

The whole "it's always been this way, therefore it should always stay this way" is a weirdly conservative argument against progressive change that doesn't hold any real value at all. I'm sure people were saying the same about women's voting rights or during the Civil Rights era. It was a worthless argument then, it's a worthless argument now. Just a circular reasoning to defend the status quo for the sake of it.

Besides, there actually is precedent in US history for sanctioning Israel. Both Reagan and Bush Sr. did it. Hell, Canada has traditionally stood by the USA's side on Israel but they suspended arms sales anyway a few weeks ago.

and americans (as evidenced by your own provided polls) support israel in huge numbers.

Repeating it doesn't make it true. It's bizarre how comfortably you are just gaslighting ITT.

From the Gallup poll published this week:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9e566719.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e75c8b48.png

you are trying to prescribe claims i didn't make in a weird appeal to emotion while ignoring the political realities

You made this claim:
"if he is seen as abandoning israel he risks losing huge swaths of his voting base and independent voters who he has to rely on"

That is a direct quote. You have not proven this whatsoever. Because it's a lie.

i suspect you are one of the overprivledged that doesn't generally vote and tend to make demands on the internet while doing nothing to make the country or world a better place to exist.

You posted a crappy right-wing propaganda poll and instead of acknowledging that, you're doubling down and throwing out petty insults.

How are you making the world a better place by deliberately spreading misinformation on the internet to defend your favorite politician and his complicity in war crimes?