Hornezz posted... The vast majority of opinion poll show that Biden's handling of the conflict is impopular among Dems and Independent voters, and that there's a majority support for pushing for a ceasefire.
The Harvard/Harris poll is clearly the odd one out and its results don't seem to be reproducible by other major pollsters. Yet that's the one that keeps on being quoted on CE. It reeks of manipulative cherry picking.
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[Reuters/Ipsos] 68% of US respondents support a ceasefire:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/15/poll-us-israel-support-hamas-war
[Pew] 45% of Dems say Israel is going too far in its military operation:
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/12/08/americans-views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/
[AP-NORC] 64% of Dems think US should negotiate a permanent ceasefire:
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-israeli-hamas-war-poll-9f9e9bd2ea595ece43f151d8722e47ad
[NYT/Siena] 75% of voters under 30 disapprove of Biden's handling of the crisis, 57% of entire population:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/us/politics/biden-israel-gaza-poll.html
[ISPU] Even among Republicans and Jews in the US support for a cease fire is higher than opposition:
[Data For Progress] + 61% of Dems, 57% of Independents support US calling for a cease fire:
https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/u-s-polls-show-shifting-landscapes-on-gaza-ceasefire/
[YouGov/The Economist] 50% of Biden voters think Israel is committing genocide:
https://www.businessinsider.com/half-biden-voters-israel-genocide-palestinians-gaza-poll-2024-1?op=1&r=US&IR=T
[Gallup] 63% of Democrats, 67% of adults younger than 35, and 64% people of color disapprove of Israel's actions. 75% of Independents disapprove:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx
[AP-NORC] 63% of Dems say Israel has gone too far, 52% of Independents. 70% of Dems under 30 disapprove of Biden's handling:
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-poll-biden-war-gaza-4159b28d313c6c37abdb7f14162bcdd1
[YouGov/The Economist] 77% of Dems support a cease fire, 60% of Independents:
https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48002-americans-support-ceasefires-israel-hamas-russia-ukraine-wars
And the most recent one I can find:
[Gallup] Only 18% of Dems still approve of Israel's actions, 29% of Independents:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/world/middleeast/military-action-americans-gaza.html
you accuse me of cherrypicking while disingenuously summarizing what those polls actually show. in the majority of them democrats still support bidens handling of the conflict and still show that most americans support israel over palestine, just with caveats.
most americans absolutely support a ceasefire, but you failed to mention that most americans support it on the conditions that hamas release all hostages or that hamas is permanently taken out.
us support for israel should be conditional and we should be able to strong arm them to behaving humanely like we have strong armed almost every nation for usually less altruistic reasons, but if biden is seen as 'not supporting israel' in an election year it would be much worse for his chances than any other factor.
if biden continues the perpetual us policy of blind support of israel he 'risks' losing young and extremely online people that don't vote or won't vote for him anyway, if he is seen as abandoning israel he risks losing huge swaths of his voting base and independent voters who he has to rely on. it's a shit situation, but we live in a time where a twice impeached insurrectionist could be elected president again in a few months.