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TopicDid Donald Trump make America great again?
darkknight109
03/04/24 10:28:10 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Considering he spent his entire Presidency constantly having roadblocks thrown up by grandstanding political rivals and being torn down by media, it's not as if he could have accomplished much of value regardless of whether or not his intended policies or goals were worthwhile or not
I mean, welcome to every presidency of the last 20 years. Three of them managed to get shit done in spite of it (not necessarily good shit, but shit).

ParanoidObsessive posted...
But that's a level of perspective most people are utterly incapable of these days, because lol orange man bad.
None of what you said is mutually exclusive with recognizing Trump as an awful president and an awful person in general. The facetious dismissal of complaints against Trump as "orange man bad" rings pretty hollow when you're talking about a man who:
a) Is facing down just shy of 100 criminal charges, making him the only former president of either party to be charged for crimes conducted while in office (with a big asterisk that Nixon probably should own that [dis-]honour, but Ford made sure he didn't).
b) Was found to have defrauded the government and investors to the tune of almost half a billion dollars
c) Is an adjudicated rapist (!!)
d) Was the only president to have been impeached twice, including for an incitement of insurrection over the single time in US history where the transfer of power between administrations did not happen peacefully.

None of that is subjective or debatable, or getting into a discussion on any of his other numerous misdeeds and what I'll call "politically dubious" actions.

If you think Trump didn't get a fair shake from the media and political opponents... well, judging by that rap sheet, they were probably right not to. He really was that bad.

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