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Trying to type in some PARAGRAPHS instead of a big list of notes so Ulti doesn't hate me. :(

Some Changmas D2 posts looking back at the D1 lynch makes him look not as strong for being on Joyrock at the end. If looking at a scum perspective, Chang was voting Joyrock thinking he wasn't really going to be lynched? And then putting forth the idea that Joyrock's slot could be saved for later. Only voting Joyrock again D2 post-Chris pleading.

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changmas posted...

do you think scum felt there was a real chance joyrock could have gotten lynched at the end? from my vantage point it felt pretty decided before we got to the very end, if (scum) red was lurking i think he could have safely voted joyrock without a ton of trouble

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changmas posted...

there is a debate to be had with joyrock if we are feeling good about him being scum though

because that is a player slot you can leave in the game that will not fight back so if we have a 2nd scum player it's prolly better to get rid of them

Chang had a slow start to D2, but then had a lot of reactions and talks about claims. Didn't believe Cody at first and voted him, but then decided Cody could be left alive to test. Wanted Cody to give someone a gun. If Chang is scum and Cody is town, does Chang encourage Cody to give a gun and not roleblock/kill Cody? This seems like a genuine town process to me.
Then Chang ultimately supports Ulti's claim. Claims Ulti's behavior is town as fuck, and things along that line.
The rest of Chang's reads seem very dependent on Lea being scum and guessing a Corrik/Lea scum team together.

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changmas posted...

i think there's likely one scum in the plum / lea duo

i think there's definitely at least one scum between joyrock and crescent who is laying low

regardless of how the lea / plum split goes it's worth looking at corrik who i'd have to go back to check but my memory suggests he has been a big influence in looking at both of them and egging them on to an extent so he may have been the invisible hand guiding that the way he wants

wallz is pushing hardest on ulti scum so that's a good person to look into as well, especially considering his claim was a bit calculated in terms of how much info he gave to get people off of his case on day 1 and i could see him having gotten help with what to say there to do it correctly

not sure what to make of ctes and death. ctes had a very strong day 1 but i haven't been too impressed on day 2 so he's dropping down my town list. death i always think is scum so i need somebody else to tell me what to think there or when we're allowed to lynch him hehe

let cody resolve himself with backup

if someone else gets a fish tonight though (and hopefully it's me :) i am willing to consider you town until further notice. red and ulti i still believe are town and want to not lynch either today. tiny bit concerned about mzero being stubborn on ulti but that is likely NAI

Chris since you asked for the "towncase" of Chang, I find it notable that you responded to this above post basically saying you agree with all of it. And then you gave Chang the fish. So it appears to me that you like Chang, and are looking to see if other people confirm that bias? Not sure but I'm trying to look through it.

D3 Chang is a lot more openly skeptical of Ulti and his claim.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80456976/973753767
Can't tell if Chang is just consistent in being suspicious of Corrik, or OMGUSing because his name is on the list.
Most of Chang's D3 is not much because of assumed Lea scum and taking shots at Corrik's solve on the game.

D4 Today Chang asks me to look into Sheep as he's moved Red/Sheep to near the top of his list. Still taking shots at Ulti's claim.

To answer Chris, I think Chang is probably town because none of this looks like scum equity, and looks more like town being fairly consistent on their reads and trying to adapt after being bit by being so wrong on Lea. He's not STRONGLY town, and I think probably should not be out of anyone's PoE, but I also don't see anything particularly scummy.

To Chang, you seemed to like Red at the end of D2, but started today suspecting Sheep. The notable thing in there for me is that Sheep came into the game voting you.
changmas posted...

Also Ill have to actually do the math on it but Cody having a goldeen might actually be a legitimate reason to tip the scale into lynching someone else if were unsure-ish on him

for example i think Sheep is near guaranteed scum at this point (sorry Lea!!)

Can you describe for me what changed from your town read of Red to Sheep being near guaranteed scum? Bonus points for no OMGUS.