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GEKGanon posted...

Something that isn't measurable has no impact on anything, and is therefore has no relevance. It only has relevance if it did have impact on something, as that in itself would be measurable. If the thing in question isn't perceptible because it is outside of this plane of existence, then it is still irrelevant, as it would only be relevant if it contacted this plane of existence.

What I'm saying is, something that has no bearing on us is meaningless to us, and it only has meaning when it has measurable bearing on us.

Unless, of course, your consciousness isnt what you perceive it to be. It's natural to believe that your consciousness is simply you, an individual, completely separate from the rest of the matter around you. For all we know, your mind could be the only really consciousness and everything you perceive to be someone else is just an illusion. Perhaps we're just the universe dreaming and none of us are real. We exist seemingly in a sea of information without the faintest clue of why or how any of this exists in the first place. I think it's somewhat shortsighted to definitively assert that there is no god/being/phenomenon beyond our universe or if this universe is even "real" in the first place even if that god or being doesn't give a shit about us

You're right that none of this affects our day to day lives and we can live and die without ever knowing the answers and it would have zero impact on us (which is why i dont really think about this stuff much). But that doesn't mean there isn't something beyond this plane of existence nor does it prove atheists are correct.

I think atheists often think from a purely scientific perspective but until science has ALL the answers i think it's fair to consider applying philosophy. And I'm not dumping on science. I'm actually really into astrophysics. I'm sure this sounds like pretentious hippie talk to some people but it's just stuff I've thought about in my free time.