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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 404: Fox Tuckers Out, CNN Sours On Lemon
Thorn 04/27/23 4:42:20 PM #59:	Xeybozn posted... How'd this pass the Senate with only 50 votes? I thought pretty much everything needed 60, or at least that's what they say about why they can't pass anything people actually want. This vote was done under the Congressional Review Act (CRA) which is one of several categories of votes that can't be subject to filibuster (or rather one of many categories of votes that the Senate has carved an exception out for while pretending that it is sacred and inviolable at other times.) tl;dr: The Senate can reject a (recent - don't remember the time limit off the top of my head. 18 months keeps floating to mind but don't quote that) executive agency rule by a simple majority vote. It's usually used when there's a party change at the executive to prevent an outgoing admin from just imposing a bunch of rules in the lame duck/end of term by allowing Congress a means to reverse them. The White House has said they will veto this. (And the House still has to vote on it but it probably passes there.) StealThisSheen posted... I believe pretty much anything can pass with a simple majority unless somebody objects/filibusters, then it needs 60 for cloture? I'm probably missing some details. More or less. It's more complicated than that (because of course it is, it's the Senate) but basically the filibuster can be thought of as "refusing to agree to end the time for debate" of a bill. So it just dies there because if the debate time can't end then you can't proceed to voting on the actual bill. --- May you find your book in this place. Formerly known as xp1337. <cite>Thorn posted [p:973114850] in Politics C... [t:80422585]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted... </cite><quote>How'd this pass the Senate with only 50 votes? I thought pretty much everything needed 60, or at least that's what they say about why they can't pass anything people actually want.</quote>This vote was done under the Congressional Review Act (CRA) which is one of several categories of votes that can't be subject to filibuster (or rather one of many categories of votes that the Senate has carved an exception out for while pretending that it is sacred and inviolable at other times.)tl;dr: The Senate can reject a (recent - don't remember the time limit off the top of my head. 18 months keeps floating to mind but don't quote that) executive agency rule by a simple majority vote. It's usually used when there's a party change at the executive to prevent an outgoing admin from just imposing a bunch of rules in the lame duck/end of term by allowing Congress a means to reverse them.The White House has said they will veto this. (And the House still has to vote on it but it probably passes there.)StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>I believe pretty much anything can pass with a simple majority unless somebody objects/filibusters, then it needs 60 for cloture? I'm probably missing some details.</quote>More or less. It's more complicated than that (because of course it is, it's the Senate) but basically the filibuster can be thought of as "refusing to agree to end the time for debate" of a bill. So it just dies there because if the debate time can't end then you can't proceed to voting on the actual bill. --- May you find your book in this place.Formerly known as xp1337.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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