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I see the conversation has gone looooooonnnnngggg past this but I'll give my 2 cents and bounce.

Gladius_ posted...

First off those statistics are focusing on relationships. Young women are more likely to look for a relationship than a hookup. Further breaking it down lesbian and bisexual women are more likely than men/gay men to go for a comitted relationship. Even amongst straight women.

But who are those women in a relationship with? The lesbian/bisexual female population can't be driving the relationship statistics because they're a minority as then you're insinuating the vast majority of 18-30 women are lesbian/bisexual. The math doesn't check out.

The statement that women are interested in relationships while guys don't want to settle down isn't enough of a factor for this unprecedented high.

Religion is at an all time low so it can't be due to religious beliefs. Conservatism, in the younger male crowd? Also not convincing that this is a factor, most kids are going to be liberal. What I can and do see happening is guys becoming conservatism as a result of the current state.

I'll give you that women dominating college enrollment and don't prefer to date down. But this leads to a new(ish, I've seen this play out when I was school in the early 10's) dating dynamic:

https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/men-with-golden-penis-syndrome-ruining-romance-for-women/

Times changed. Adapt. We don't want to be breeding factories. You want classical traditional values? Good for you but don't be surprised when you find that opinion unpopular among us.

I want to point out that guys are adapting; this is reflected in the extreme growth of the red pill community. From Andrew Tate, to Men Going Their Own Way, to all those other red pill personalities and movements. There's needs to be reconciliation and the first thing that needs to be done is to sit down and listen to guys' complaints in why they're gravitating to the red pill communities and address their concerns.

Every successful civilization needs to have their prime working age men invested and productive in society and yet we're seeing a lot of guys checking out of society. Not even in a relationship and we're already at 60% of single males; what happens if it gets worse? Telling them it's their problem is not a solution.