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TopicReality TV Discussion Topic: Survivor, Amazing Race, Big Brother, etc.
BlueCrystalTear
03/28/23 8:40:45 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Pearl Islands, China, Philippines, Exile Island, David vs. Goliath, Gabon, Amazon, Cagayan, these are just the ones that come to mind immediately because they are all among my top 10 seasons and are mostly driven by their character development that began from episode 1
Yeah, this, though not all of these are in my personal top 10. They all establish quickly who you're supposed to root for and root against, and that's just newbie seasons. I'd add Borneo, SJDS, and even Worlds Apart to that pile. You have people to like and people to dislike after four episodes, sometimes even sooner. I don't know what you're watching, foolmo. But those seasons had much better

Inviso posted...
The thing that bugs me about all of this is...42 was actually a really solid season. The show got a lot of memorable characters out of it (I'd argue that 6/7 of the final 7 are legitimate All-Star contenders, plus Tori and Rocksroy are solid casting choices as well), and yet two seasons later, they've reverted to not trusting their cast again, and instead forcing dozens of advantages into the game at any given time.
And this is why production has gotten worse. They no longer trust their casts and instead bloat the game with filler advantage crap that devolves it all into sensationalist trash that focuses more on "having a moment" than actually being authentic, which in turn undermines this very philosophy. The reason S44 has been bad is that they don't trust this great cast to deliver on their own. There haven't been any memorable moments. And production fails to recognize that if all Movez are big, then none of them are.

It's like Darkx said above: A move like the Ozzy lynch in Micronesia was epic because it happened naturally and wasn't amid a flurry of nigh identical blindsides. It also wasn't a surprise to the viewer since they decided to showcase how that move came together, which made it epic. Survivor needs to do that in some episodes to balance out the "Big Movez" so those moves truly feel big, sometimes even showing how a Big Move happens. Micronesia showed how the blindsides happened because it made for more compelling TV; it was downright hilarious at times, and the Erik heist in particular wouldn't have been the same if they'd wanted to "blindside the viewer" every single time back then.

Micronesia was great - and still is great - for this reason. It's a fun season, but sadly that + The Hantz forever changed Survivor into the mess that it is today.

Chaeix posted...
Did anyone finish AU HvV?

That was a fucking rollercoaster of a season and brought back some classic survivor joy I havent had in while.
Not yet, because vacation. I have seven episodes left. I'll comment later.

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