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TopicStar Trek Mafia - Topic 5: Poor Dumb Harry.
EDumey
03/09/23 11:37:37 AM
#291:


Not a full ISO, just a collection of some posts. Having to look through this is your punishment for not giving me a quick rundown, Han. >:(

3.070 Sheep doing an ISO of Han says Han's vote was the worst on Sheep because it was based on Sheep having a gut town read on Death after one post.
3.071 Chris jokingly instigates by telling Sheep to strike him [Han] down.
3.073 Sheep says he's considering it, but backs off because he liked Han's JC vote.
3.098 Sheep asks Chris to weigh in on Han's unvote. Clarifies to Han that Han's "I vaguely agree of don't care about the other cases against Sheep, but I don't think he can actually read Death that well" is not a believable read.
Also Sheep claims he left off his flavor specifically as a bait for Han, but self admits it's his ego getting in the way.
3.104 Han says the Death read reasoning wasn't the biggest thing he voted Sheep for, it was the biggest thing that was yet unsaid. His reason for unvoting was rereading P1T1 and coming to the conclusion that it didn't make sense from scum perspective.
3.108 Sheep thanks Han for clarifying, and walks back that him not claiming flavor was not entirely to bait Han, just something he was thinking of at the time.

3.106 Chris says he'll review the Sheep/Han thing, but will get back to it later.
Did this ever happen? I don't know if Chris got distracted or something, but he goes on to talk about other things, and then start his Murder/Veto game, and to my knowledge never goes back to address Sheep/Han. This might be totally irrelevant, but it was interesting to me.

Just for reference, Sheep's murder/kill list was
3.199 "Murder: Han, Lea, MZero (this is pretty hard and just the first names that came to mind, because there's really nobody I feel rough on just yet and I have basically zero compelling reason to feel good on any of these).

Veto: Wall, Crescent, Death (a little easier, although I almost put Ulti in over Death! I don't think anything could convince me to lynch the first two, while I still haven't gotten The Tell which would make me all but certain Death is Town)."

3.209-274 Han asks Sheep if Han being on his kill list is an inconsistency because of the flavor bait? Sheep says it was a null tell overall, and Han says "So you intentionally did something to get a reaction out of me, with zero purpose to getting a reaction out of me?" Sheep says the purpose was to get Han's vote off of him, and Han doesn't think that's a believable motive.

I'm gonna be honest, I don't understand this exchange at all. I don't really get the "flavor bait" in the first place, let alone why it matters.I think it comes down to Han saying that Sheep's argument only makes sense if he is assuming Han is town and actively determining whether or not Sheep's claim is real, so listing Han on Sheep's kill list is counteractive to that? I didn't do a post by post list because there's a ton of small back and forth posts between the two. But I'm not sure there's much here other than Han thinking Sheep is listing Han as his primary suspect when Sheep is also hinting that Han is town.

Honestly I find the fact that Chris abstained from commenting at any point the more interesting part of this whole exchange.


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