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Topic~FIGHT!~ Mario, Crono and Aigis vs. Bowser, Mewtwo and DK
Kamekguy
02/18/23 1:10:38 PM
#58:


So I do wanna prop Bowser up some here, because while he's getting (very rightly) disrespected, he's got some stuff. Check it.

https://youtu.be/xGLlaq5As0s

This is probably the most 'pure' Mario Vs Bowser duel you're gonna get - midgame, just Mario and Luigi Vs Bowser using I'd say about 60% of their respective Bowser's Inside Story arsenals. It takes the Mario Bros Double Team about five minutes to finish Bowser off when he's got no healing or backup, with Bowser specifically picking the fight because "see Mario, attack on sight". Of note is about 4:45 to show what Bowser's fire breath actually does when it's not just wimpy little fireballs. And to show that Bowser's actually willing to use his minion attacks mid-battle, like "50 fiery Goombas" or "let the Shy Guys slingshot me forward with a giant rubber band", which are funny and stupid attacks, but also Bowser starts with the high ground in this terrain and there's one entrance the enemy HAS to come out of, he's 100% meteoring himself at them. Jungle Japes has a lot of specific chokepoints with its tunnels, Bowser being able to block it up with his giant ass and fire makes a lot of his damage really inescapable. Do I think the DK possession screws this up? Absolutely, DK tosses Bowser around like nothing, but he doesn't KILL him. Bowser fell into the sun in Galaxy and then got up to whine that he lost as the universe imploded around him, and Bowser's accessories give him a little bit of healing every time he lands a physical hit. DK's able to break a giant evil obsidian egg by headbutting it repeatedly, but I don't see Mario cracking Bowser's shell within 15 seconds, especially considering he probably has to GET to DK since Bowser's 100% gonna be in his face faster than the big ape, on account of it's Bowser.

The one thing I did forget is that Aigis is dedicated on monitoring DK, which is... real bad. The moment she's prepared to snipe DK is a moment Mewtwo has open, and is one I didn't consider before. And if Mewtwo takes that moment to wipe Crono or prevent Mario from finishing off Bowser... that's real bad. I do think Aigis finishes off DK relatively quickly - he doesn't have anything to deal with that much precision at this range - but this essentially forces revives to be put into play immediately rather than in a war of attrition Vs Mewtwo.

I am leaning Team Mewtwo because I am seeing "there will be an opening", but damn this isn't a clean win for either side. Mewtwo striking down Crono early or Mario with a choice lightning to cover Aigis' moment of weakness clench it, but I don't buy that for either of them, at least not consistently.

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