Good to know. Still not sure what to get or not get (both? first only?), but the 1st game is almost nothing so I'm willing to gamble I guess. Definitely getting it and Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen (even though I own it on PS3 already).
Still debating Wrath of the Righteous pretty hard. I used to play PF a ton b/c my groups all moved to it...I vastly preferred D&D 3.5 b/c PF nerfed/removed all the fun non-caster stuff I liked or locked it behind a specific race or 10 fighter levels or such. Researching it has led me to pouring over the PF SRD again and repeatedly remembering why I couldn't stand PF so much. Almost every kind of build I would want to do is impossible/unavailable, or literally got nerfed at some point since I last played. They even nerfed Barbarian (it's "unchained" now and all the rage powers I liked are gone or nerfed into the ground)! I'm not much of a caster-player, but PF is basically Caster Edition... I do miss playing D&D of some sort though. Just not sure I miss it enough to play PF rules...