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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 390: Where Uvalde Cowboys Gone?
BlAcK TuRtLe 06/23/22 11:56:35 AM #265:	Inviso posted... You've physically said, in this topic, that certain people are BORN incapable of gaining employment beyond unskilled labor. Either because they lack the ability (or more likely, they're born into poverty and that is an extremely difficult hole to dig your way out of, since poverty begets poverty). But because the labor isn't skilled (and keep in mind that the hypothetical we're discussing is a minimum wage worker who is working MULTIPLE full-time jobs in order to fulfill the basic needs of their survival), you're still claiming they didn't "earn" basic human decency. These are people who can barely afford clothing, food and shelter, and you're bitching about how they're lazy and entitled and seeking 70-inch flat screen TVs. How difficult is YOUR job that you have time in the middle of an average work day to debate economics on an internet message? I've worked retail for minimum wage and I currently work an office job for MUCH more than that, and I can guarantee you that I worked a FUCKTON harder for minimum wage than I do now. And, since this ties into one of your other stupid arguments, the only reason I have my office job is because I went to college and got a degree that has NOTHING to do with what I currently do for a living. This what I'm talking about. One of the major reasons why I have a well-paying office job (and don't get me wrong, I work extremely hard and went from office assistant to supervisor in an astonishingly short amount of time) instead of being stuck working minimum wage is because I have that college degree. And I have that college degree because I was born into a family that was able to set money aside that allowed me to go to college in the first place. Meanwhile, without that degree, I spent ten years working retail in an extremely thankless position where me working hard full-time got me minimum wage and just a general lack of respect for working a job that SOMEONE has to do in order for society to function. I just don't get how anyone can be so arrogant as to blame poor people's work ethic when the deck is dramatically stacked against you if you don't have the money needed to invest in yourself. People who have valid medical issues that prevent them from working get disability cheques, which are more than enough to provide basic human needs. People who don't have valid medical issues get welfare which provides basic human needs. Right now the incentive to work and contribute to society is to be able to afford luxories, seems like the system is working great to me, why do we need to have the people who are already working and paying taxes subsidizing the luxories of the people who refuse to work? --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride! <cite>BlAcK TuRtLe posted [p:966041064] in Politics C... [t:80059113]...</cite> <quote>Inviso posted... </cite> <quote>You've physically said, in this topic, that certain people are BORN incapable of gaining employment beyond unskilled labor. Either because they lack the ability (or more likely, they're born into poverty and that is an extremely difficult hole to dig your way out of, since poverty begets poverty). But because the labor isn't skilled (and keep in mind that the hypothetical we're discussing is a minimum wage worker who is working MULTIPLE full-time jobs in order to fulfill the basic needs of their survival), you're still claiming they didn't "earn" basic human decency. These are people who can barely afford clothing, food and shelter, and you're bitching about how they're lazy and entitled and seeking 70-inch flat screen TVs. How difficult is YOUR job that you have time in the middle of an average work day to debate economics on an internet message? I've worked retail for minimum wage and I currently work an office job for MUCH more than that, and I can guarantee you that I worked a FUCKTON harder for minimum wage than I do now. And, since this ties into one of your other stupid arguments, the only reason I have my office job is because I went to college and got a degree that has NOTHING to do with what I currently do for a living. This what I'm talking about. One of the major reasons why I have a well-paying office job (and don't get me wrong, I work extremely hard and went from office assistant to supervisor in an astonishingly short amount of time) instead of being stuck working minimum wage is because I have that college degree. And I have that college degree because I was born into a family that was able to set money aside that allowed me to go to college in the first place. Meanwhile, without that degree, I spent ten years working retail in an extremely thankless position where me working hard full-time got me minimum wage and just a general lack of respect for working a job that SOMEONE has to do in order for society to function. I just don't get how anyone can be so arrogant as to blame poor people's work ethic when the deck is dramatically stacked against you if you don't have the money needed to invest in yourself.</quote>People who have valid medical issues that prevent them from working get disability cheques, which are more than enough to provide basic human needs. People who don't have valid medical issues get welfare which provides basic human needs. Right now the incentive to work and contribute to society is to be able to afford luxories, seems like the system is working great to me, why do we need to have the people who are already working and paying taxes subsidizing the luxories of the people who refuse to work? --- Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade. Wear this title with pride!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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